Maybe the first move for you would be to stop thinking about how much they won't like you and think about how much you like them. When we take our focus off ourselves and put it out there, we are often surprised at the results.
When you learn to stop focusing on yourself and your own insecuritis you will often find you have more to offer and so will they.
Good luck

Master:
an authority qualified to teach apprentices
have a firm understanding or knowledge of; be on top of

At 18 years of age, huh?
OK then.

I need to finish my piece on Astrophysics and get it off to the Smithsonian...

In other words, just because I say I am.. does not mean I am.

What I am? What I m a master of? Is better left to others opinions.

I gotta say, I love how unromantic this world has become with '10's' and '5's' and whatever this PUA crap is. I'm not saying that your lines don't work chief, I just say that it's all this bull that just mixes people up and convinces them that they need to change.

Screw that, I've been that guy, and I've played that game. You know what's waiting at the end of that road? Not happiness, that's for sure.

If your methods are so G D good, why can't you convince anyone but yourself that they are? You can't get one person on here to back you... so your your "witchcraft magick methods" and convince us how great they are. Otherwise, you are barking up the wrong trees, and I am done trying to teach a pig to sing.

that's a good start, by the way. i would also recommend doing this.

also, overcome your shyness. go downtown and say "hi" to EVERY female you see. Make eye contact whenever you can. shyness holds you back in so many ways when it comes to women and dating. trust me, it helps no man.

plenty of people back me up in these topics. this certainly isnt the first time a debate like this has sparked.

http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/54347

Your not listening to me, if your methods are so good, then use them to convince us, use what your "master" *cough cough* taught you. YOu should be able to use your "methods" practically, if you cannot then there is something wrong with either them, or you. I'll let you decide.

No matter how much a guy or girl thinks you are or are not attractive...it does not matter. If you let it, it will affect YOU within. Not him/her. He/She will either be very clingy with a handsome/pretty guy/girl and some abusive or downright cruel to someone who is not. So better to decide for yourself if YOU like you...and forget the rest. The rest comes. Anyone who cannot accept you in whole is not worth it to you anyway. That includes yourself. Self-perception is health and happiness. There are plenty of people who DO appreciate you for you. YOU should be one of them.

Wait a second...
I'm in good position to ask without feeling like an a$$ since Leanne's right behind me with her nose in a book and all, but...you're on here, ummm...every night, chief?

With that said, convince me that your BS method works and speaking from the heart doesn't.

Well said.

My methods of PERSUASION are solely based on essay writing that ive learned in school.
Pickup, for the most part, is not about PERSUASION.

Ok ok ok. Enough. There IS no method. No magic. It is this.
You are what you are when you are. Simple.
No numbers. No ratings.
You die tomorrow...you are dead. Simple.
Don't get into the metaphysics of the here after now. It is not the time and I am speaking only in the anatomical literal state to make a point. Is like life. NOT ALL MOMENTS IN LIFE ARE PERFECT except for the fact that you DID happen to wake up.
This conversation is one of the most wasteful I have ever read. People could be out making friends and doing stuff. LOL. Sleeping! Giving warm fuzzies to whomever! Deciding how to handle pretty people is what?

well actually id be studying for finals. im about to get on that now lol

Hmmm...I notice he didn't respond when I called him out.
Sorry, couldn't let that point go unmentioned.
But yes, passie, it's good advice, and it looks like we're hitting the hay. G'night.

are you mentally deficient... it is all about persuasion.

a lot of people see it that way, but i think that's a pretty poor way to see pickup. i see it as more of a shared experience of enjoyment, not a business persuasion.
if you actually knew anything about real pickup you might understand.

One of the best damn sayings I've ever heard. Kudos to that!

i don't have to read and reply to chit...

Ummm, it's good and why should a girl look at you any differently than you look at yourself?

ohhh that last part was deep like "whether you think you can or think you can't....you're right?"

Ahh..keeps life exciting. Different strokes for different folks.If we were all attracted to everyone, no one would be alone and single. Soooo, keeps the cycle moving.