Not really no. I don't mean delusions.
I mean I suppose you could use that term, and that in some ways it would be correct.

For example, focus pocus.
People used to be able to twist my eyeballs, and literally, my neck and head every which way but loose. By somehow causing a reflex involuntary motor response.
They probably still can if they try hard enough, and for long enough.
And for many years I was quite literally made to feel physically ill , with this. A bit like motion sickness.
However for quite a number of years now. I've found, that I can twist anybodys neck, in the same way, without even really thinking about it, or doing it deliberately.
I recall asking people about this when I was at school. I've asked doctors and such, and many others
But nobody has said a dickie bird.
So Tom, am I deluded?

I still think they still do ...
but something that is not talked about ...

The secrets held by known entities,
are more of a danger than anything.

I dont know about secret societies, but it is an interesting idea to consider what 'punishment' is.

I was taught about the balance of the world. Good comes with bad. Responsibility, comes with authority and/or privilege. And choice comes with consequence, some good, some bad.

When I apply that concept of balance with our 'rights'(as constitutionally written), I realize that when we speak freely, others speak freely about our speech. When we act freely, others REACT freely to our actions. It is kind of the good with the bad sort of thing.

I am concerned with the concurring cultural trends of professional victimhood and mob mentality reaction, that is seeing internet and media become a lynching tree where 'free speech' and protesting can completely turn people's lives and livelihoods upside down under the concerns of employers about their image to such mobs. The idea of innocent until proven guilty never really applied in the court of public opinion. but now that public opinion has so much reach and power so quickly via the web, it takes but a spark ... the wrong opinion, accusations of crime or wrong doing, to grow into a fire of bigger and more impactful reactions against those who are targeted.

I see this as our modern day lynching trend, and it concerns me greatly.

How would I know?

My comment referenced:


Believing something that is not actually true is a delusion.

I hear you Tom. But my point is, sometimes it's just not as simple as that.
For instance 1 mans delusion, is another mans prophecy.
Who is to really say

I need an example of this?

Delusions are inaccurate assessments of reality.
How can an inaccurate assessment of reality be prophetic?
If they were, the prophecy would be inaccurate.

Delusions can be many folds deep.
Finding the actual reality requires stripping away all those levels of delusions. Reality is always the bottom layer.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to understand the thinking.
At one time in my life, I defended my delusions with ferocity and my life was full of turmoil and stress.
Thinking back, I can give no good reason for me defending my delusions but I was doing it.
Perhaps if you can explain the reasoning behind your statement, I will understand myself a bit better?

But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”
“How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.
“You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”

Tom, many religious texts, are apparently divined through a medium. Yet many people who are locked away as being insane, are there because they had an epiphany.
Now you don't have to be religious, or subscribe to any 1 religion.
But which is more real, the existential world, or the physical world?
Will your spirit go elsewhere, once your body is no longer with us
Shamans have been found in many different cultures, for a long time. In the west, we would forcibly lock them up, and force medication on them, to cure them, of this delusion
I already gave you an example, of why I am deemed to be deluded.
I however, know, that I am not. And no amount of locking me up, being pinned down by 4 large people, and hearing the words, turn him over, just before my pants are pulled down, so a fifth person, can stick a needle in my backside, with a drug, that they know, will have an adverse affect on me, will change that
It will scare the crap out of me, it will make me feel emasculated and deppresed.
And the 'reality' of the situation will be ignored. So, who is deluding who?
How the hell should I know, I hear you cry.
Well I'm only asking for your opinion, and I apologize, because I realize that it's a tricky subject, and that any real conversation on it is banned, unless you want to be cast out, of this place that apparently prides itself on freedom, and freedom of speech. Oh, your body might still be there, but hey, that's just a vessel, if your denied all chance at connecting with anybody, then your effectively marooned. In fact being marooned maybe more preferable, as you wouldn't have to be constantly reminded that apparently, we're social creatures

I don't follow religions that well.
None of them seem to fit the reality I witness.

Personally, I believe I am linked to my physical body.
My mind can imagine nearly anything and be right sometimes.
My brain is where my mind comes from.
The physical chemo-electric signals that make up the process of awareness.
This is done when dendrites and axons exchange chemical-electrical signals thru a synapse.
When I die, that process will slowly stop.
If there is no longer a signal and the synapse can't fire, what is me now will no longer be.
So, when I die, everything stops. (Not even with an exception of "for me" because without my brain's physical action, I no loner exist).

What you are experiencing is dreadful, I would never want to be in your shoes.
What is happening is you are being treated according to someone else's diagnosis. Probably from some action or words you gave them in the past.
The reality is you presently no longer exhibit those patterns but the 'see' you as that person.
What you need is fresh eyes.
If you are being confined, that probably won't happen.
If you are free to move anywhere, I suggest you move away and stay away from those that want to subjugate you for your beliefs.

Perhaps with a new start where nobody knows of you is your best avenue of approach.
As long as you don't draw attention to yourself, you would be just like all the other crazy people in the world, just like me.
The moment you do something in public that alerts them that you might be a threat to yourself or others, you will be back under the gun.

The "Reality" is that most people don't care what you do as long as you don't do it to them. If you make people fear your insanity, they will get you away from them.
If you are in control of yourself, in control of your emotional states and non-threatening to others, chances are, nobody will even notice you.
So, if you can, move to another place, the farther away the better.

Tried that fella, they found me, they always do. They even found me in a tent camped in the middle of the woods, or the edge of the moors. Strange stuff even happened to me in another country.
As for your brain being you, I'm not altogether sure, that is true. Your memory is stored in every cell in your body.
That's why sometimes when somebody has had, say a heart transplant, they start playing the piano, or speaking French. Something they were previously unable to do. Yet the previous owner of the heart, could.
I'm not religious either, I find it divisive and blinding. My father said to me, that religion thrives on ignorance and poverty, and I think that is true
I do however believe in certain things. And I do believe that our spirit passes over, in fact it is very dreadful, if it doesn't.

Guess they do

The body sheds cells on a regular basis.
What happens to the cell memory when cells are shed?

No insolence intended but cell memory has no significance.
As time passes, our bodies shed dead cells.
It is a major component in household dust.
If my cell memory persisted, it would reside in the cells that are shed in normal life.
While it may be significant to some, it isn't to me and I am the culmination of my mind.


I am not attempting to undermine your beliefs.
Whatever works for you is fine by me.


What if it doesn't?
What if you end when your physical body does?
How could that be a bad thing?
Do you really want to live forever?
I don't. Something is really messed up in the reality for an everlasting life?
Personally, I don't want it.

There is a defect in reality that manifests as entropy.
A certain defunct status in how reality plays out.
Personally, I'm not interested.
The allure of Heaven is a ruse.
The fear of hell is a ruse.
Reality sucks.

I wish there was a passionate endurance but reality is, when you die its the end.
I find comfort in that.
It allows me to be in the reality of the here and now without delusional expectations.
If you find peace with that, who am I to try to dissuade you?
When you reach an understanding with what reality really is, you will understand my contentment.
Until then, I am perfectly happy letting you believe what you want.

That's cool Tom. I respect your beliefs. I don't know, how it all works, and I'm not saying that I want to live forever. Or that things ending is a bad thing.
I guess I'm 1 of those people that believes all things, even us, are just a form or manifestation of energy, and that we kind of return to it. If not, it can get trapped, like a nerve, and that's probably not good.