Topic: Safe and Unsafe
msharmony's photo
Mon 02/18/19 07:03 PM
This article posted between 1999 and 2014, but my opinion is it is timeless.
IT may be redirected to Religion, but I think it applies in both categories.

Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1.Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.

2.No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.

3.No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.

4.Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.

5.There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.

6.Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.

7.There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.

8.Followers feel they can never be "good enough".

9.The group/leader is always right.

10.The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.


Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1.Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.

2.Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.

3.Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".

4.Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.

5.Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.

6.Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.

7.A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.

8.Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.

9.Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful
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10. Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.


Ten signs of a safe group/leader.

1.A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive.

2.A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regarding budget and expenses. Safe groups and leaders will tell you more than you want to know.

3.A safe group/leader is often democratic, sharing decision making and encouraging accountability and oversight.

4.A safe group/leader may have disgruntled former followers, but will not vilify, excommunicate and forbid others from associating with them.

5.A safe group/leader will not have a paper trail of overwhelmingly negative records, books, articles and statements about them.

6.A safe group/leader will encourage family communication, community interaction and existing friendships and not feel threatened.

7.A safe group/leader will recognize reasonable boundaries and limitations when dealing with others.

8.A safe group/leader will encourage critical thinking, individual autonomy and feelings of self-esteem.

9.A safe group/leader will admit failings and mistakes and accept constructive criticism and advice.

10.A safe group/leader will not be the only source of knowledge and learning excluding everyone else, but value dialogue and the free exchange of ideas.

https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html


For the sake of logic and balance. I am not of the belief that these things in and by themselves are PROOF of a safe or unsafe leadership, but the more boxes are ticked, the more of a red flag should be considered.




Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 02/18/19 07:23 PM
:thumbsup:

As an exercise consider how these traits might apply to families and personal relationships.

Substitute group leader/follower with mom, dad, brother, sister, husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, etc...

The personality traits of groups often translates to people because people are the ones that make up the groups.

Then consider the personality that gravitates towards those traits.
More often than not, it manifests in their personal life as well.

Bob's photo
Mon 02/18/19 08:58 PM
Wow, glad I'm outta the US
Reading the first 10 the word "Trump" kept flashing thru my head! LOL

Argo's photo
Mon 02/18/19 10:26 PM
the detectives brought the witness to the line-up room
and asked him which pink elephant robbed him...


the witness immediately pointed to number 3 saying "it was
him officer, I'd recognize him anywhere...the one wearing the MAGA hat..laugh


msharmony's photo
Mon 02/18/19 10:32 PM

the detectives brought the witness to the line-up room
and asked him which pink elephant robbed him...


the witness immediately pointed to number 3 saying "it was
him officer, I'd recognize him anywhere...the one wearing the MAGA hat..laugh




smh , now now, not all MAGA hat folks are the same. some just dream of a euphoric time when america was just so GREAT, and they merely want to return to it AGAIN.

FeelYoung's photo
Mon 02/18/19 10:33 PM
Thats not even funny.

Argo's photo
Mon 02/18/19 10:58 PM


the detectives brought the witness to the line-up room
and asked him which pink elephant robbed him...


the witness immediately pointed to number 3 saying "it was
him officer, I'd recognize him anywhere...the one wearing the MAGA hat..laugh




smh , now now, not all MAGA hat folks are the same. some just dream of a euphoric time when america was just so GREAT, and they merely want to return to it AGAIN.


soooo, is it ok now if i let my son wear his Oakland Raiders
jersey to school tomorrow or will he get suspended for 3 days again ?? He's really an A student and not in any gang or anything, but the principal said that didn't matter...

msharmony's photo
Tue 02/19/19 12:00 AM



the detectives brought the witness to the line-up room
and asked him which pink elephant robbed him...


the witness immediately pointed to number 3 saying "it was
him officer, I'd recognize him anywhere...the one wearing the MAGA hat..laugh




smh , now now, not all MAGA hat folks are the same. some just dream of a euphoric time when america was just so GREAT, and they merely want to return to it AGAIN.


soooo, is it ok now if i let my son wear his Oakland Raiders
jersey to school tomorrow or will he get suspended for 3 days again ?? He's really an A student and not in any gang or anything, but the principal said that didn't matter...



I dont know your school's stated dress code ... lol.

but on the side of education, schools are not fashion shows, that there is choice to be individual doesnt always mean there is endless choice. yet it still leaves quite a few other options. I do hope he can wear it, especially being an A student and all.