Topic: Religion for profit? Senator wants 2 know.
Fitnessfanatic's photo
Sun 12/09/07 12:55 PM
Televangelist won't comply with Senate inquiry
AP: Preacher Benny Hinn said Thursday he will not respond until next year
updated 11:13 a.m. ET, Thurs., Dec. 6, 2007
A second Christian ministry is refusing to meet a Thursday deadline for a Senate investigation into preachers' salaries, perks and travel, The Associated Press has learned.

Benny Hinn of World Healing Center Church Inc. and Benny Hinn Ministries of Grapevine, Texas, said in a statement to the AP on Thursday that he will not respond to the inquiry until next year.

A lawyer for preacher Creflo Dollar of World Changers Church International in suburban Atlanta had said Wednesday that the investigation should be referred to the IRS or the Senate panel should get a subpoena for the documents.

Senator not 'impressed'
Sen. Charles Grassley, the ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, sent lengthy questionnaires a month ago to six ministries so he could review whether pastors were complying with IRS rules that bar excessive personal gain through tax-exempt work.

Only Joyce Meyer Ministries of Fenton, Mo., has provided the detailed financial and board oversight information sought by Grassley.

Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said in a Wednesday conference call with reporters that he "can't be impressed" by the argument from some of the preachers that the IRS already monitors them, because his past inquiries have unearthed information that the IRS never knew.

All the ministries preach a form of "Word of Faith" theology, known as prosperity gospel, which teaches that God wants believers to reap material rewards for their faith.

Grassley has insisted his investigation "has nothing to do with church doctrine" and is strictly concerned with making sure nonprofit groups are following the law.

However, several religious liberty watchdogs have said the scope of the inquiry is too broad and warned that it could be unconstitutional.

Televangelists object to inquiry
Ronn Torossian, a spokesman for Hinn, said in a statement that the preacher "plans to facilitate a response to Senator Grassley's inquiry by Jan. 30th, and likewise notified the senator's office of this intent on Nov. 20th." Torossian said Hinn is "in full compliance with government agencies duly authorized to oversee churches and charitable organizations."

Torossian would not elaborate.

The other televangelists have been noncommittal in their public comments, but some have voiced strong objections that echo Dollar's.

The other ministries targeted in the inquiry are Bishop Eddie Long of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church and Bishop Eddie Long Ministries of Lithonia, Ga.; Randy and Paula White of Without Walls International Church and Paula White Ministries of Tampa, Fla.; and Kenneth and Gloria Copeland of Kenneth Copeland Ministries of Newark, Texas.

Refusals to turn over the information could lead to a court fight, giving a judge the authority to decide whether the committee is entitled to all the information it requested.

"Hopefully these organizations will work with us," said Grassley, who has been investigating nonprofit compliance with IRS rules for years. "I don't think I've had to issue a single subpoena in the five years that I've been trying to get cooperation from organizations."

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 12/09/07 01:03 PM
All those televangelists are a friggin fraud..ask for money every two minutes...have mansions and such.what humble man/woman of God ,who is following Jesus ,needs all those possessions while people starve.I mean really,how do they sleep at night?

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Sun 12/09/07 01:06 PM
televangelists just do it for the money.....why do you think they sit there and say "call this number and give me money and god will heal you!"....granted, yes, we can't stop them because it more than likely does fall into the freedom off religion category, but come on......does anybody honestly believe giving some crazy old man on tv a hundred dollars is gonna make god notice you?

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Mon 12/10/07 07:37 PM

televangelists just do it for the money.....why do you think they sit there and say "call this number and give me money and god will heal you!"....granted, yes, we can't stop them because it more than likely does fall into the freedom off religion category, but come on......does anybody honestly believe giving some crazy old man on tv a hundred dollars is gonna make god notice you?


It is amazing how many people fall for it all. Shocking. Anyway, I suggest that the government is no different that the televangelists. They both want your money, so I predict that this will eventually lead to the churches losing their tax exempt status. The Government will want a piece of this part of the economy.


Art

wouldee's photo
Mon 12/10/07 08:17 PM
Edited by wouldee on Mon 12/10/07 08:26 PM
This is the prime example of why Christianity is susceptible to fraudulence.

The heartfelt kindness of loving people being tethered to temptation and desire in a most deceptive and dishonest way.

To proclaim a gift has its reward in like kind is not a gift, but theft.

If one gives, let the gift be received graciously.

But to ask for a gift is disengenuous contempt of compassion and sympathy.

Asking for anything, man to man, has nothing to do with gifts and giving. It is theft of the heart, not the wallet .

This is theft at its most subtle.




Give freely from the heart to another, and if the other asks for another gift ( because one has been there for them at all )it is only to take that which you have from you.

Receive what is offered or given, but never ask for a second helping. That is theft of the heart.


It is theft of the heart because a request is plied upon generousity. Taking that which is not given freely.


Read between the lines and fill yourself with this.



brokenheart :cry: ohwell






see this if possible , people.

Motivating a donkey with a carrot on a string in front of its eyes is no way to give a gift.

Likewise, your free gift from God.

Your sins are forgiven or they are not. Adding conditions is theft.

We are all forgiven. Let US learn to forgive one another and be free of ANY judgement.


That was simple.


That was easy.