Topic: Mueller and the FBI resort to Gestapo style tactics
Lpdon's photo
Sat 01/26/19 12:36 AM
I really thought I had seen it all, then I watched the video of Roger Stone being arrested.

First point, it was cute how they leaked the raid in advance to CNN. Just like how Goebbels would have arrests and show trials filmed by the NSDAP media.

Then you seen thirty tacked up Federal Agents with guns drawn serving a warrant on a non-violent crime on someone without a criminal history. Normally the prosecutor would contact the defense lawyer and the suspect would turn themselves in, not in this case. It was all a show for the media present. They normally would only send a couple Agents to serve a warrant like this. Case in point, when the FBI arrested John Gotti (a convicted of murderer and pure psychopath) that they arrested in a Mafia bar where only "made" men, killers are allowed in (to be made you have to have killed someone) the FBI only served that Arrest Warrant with a dozen Agents.

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Sat 01/26/19 04:34 AM
Yeah, those "white collar" criminals are dangerous. You never know when they might throw a pile of papers at the fbi. Pens are sharp, perhaps they might come at an agent and try to stab them. Isn't white out, explosive?

Mueller is grasping at straws. He keeps prosecuting those people that had anything to do with Trump. Hoping that they know something crooked about him. They haven't yet gone after the janitor that emptied Trump's waste basket, or the trash service that hauled away the garbage from his office building.

Give him time, they eventually will.

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Sat 01/26/19 06:16 AM
I haven't been following political news that much anymore.
It just seems more like a circus where the attempt is to trigger outrage than inform.

I mean:
"they leaked the raid in advance to CNN"
Who is "they?" Some Illuminati group? Pelosi? The head of the FBI? A single disgruntled FBI agent that hates Trump?
Was it leaked or did CNN learn about it some other way? Like CNN has an illegal/hacked/legal FBI/military/police frequency radio?
Was it actually leaked? Or was the FBI just slow and lazy? They showed up and some neighbor called CNN and they showed up during the multi hour process, or local news and CNN bought all the footage of local newshounds following swat vans?

"Then you seen thirty tacked up Federal Agents with guns drawn serving a warrant"
I was driving down in the hood for work not too long ago, saw a couple sheriff's vans and 3 cop cars pull up to a house, about 8-10 sheriff's deputies went up and served a warrant.
That was on a little ghetto house. I sat and watched them arrest 1 guy.

I don't know what kind of house or security Roger Stone has.
For all I know he has 30 personal security guards and a 1000 acre property.
That's going to take a lot of agents to secure.
I mean I lived in Colorado for a bit, adjacent to a billionaire with hundreds or thousands of acres of property. Whenever he planned on coming for a visit to his home, just a week or month visit, about a dozen security agents would precede him by a couple weeks and start investigating the community of about 1500 people, see if there was anyone new, check out the property, look for dangers.
Maybe all of those agents weren't for Roger Stone but a means to secure everyone else?

I don't know if he lives in a 1500 square foot bungalow on 1/8th of an acre in the middle of suburbia, or has a sprawling gated compound with a private army.

Also, I remember the raid on subway Jareds house. A ton of cops were sent there too, in order to prevent destruction of evidence, to seize computers and files, for child porno.

I don't know about "guns drawn" but they tend to not send agents in the field without guns, and there are policies and procedures in place in how to approach a place, secure it. Hard not to have "guns drawn" with assault rifles.

Mueller is grasping at straws.

I agree.
Seems people being prosecuted are being prosecuted for stupid reasons, procedural reasons. Like Andy Bernard lawyering; "what about your lies david?! You sent a text: 'all is good, my wife has a cold,' well which is it? Is all good? Or your wife sick?!" Based on the Mueller probe he'd be arrested for lying under oath (if he worked for Trump).
And Cohen going to jail? Let's see, he went to a bank, and lied about his assets and income to get a loan. Hmmm, sounds so familiar, but I must be crazy, because there weren't millions of other people doing the same thing, influencing the housing crisis. Musta happened in my dream.

Seems like doing something similar to FBI agents standing around outside a medical marijuana dispensary in a legalized state waiting for someone who knows someone they don't like to come out in order to arrest them for violating federal drug laws.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 01/26/19 10:05 AM
Your attempt to claim similarities to gestapo are of course entirely wrong.

Actual "Gestapo tactics" would be to arrest and incarcerate first, and then search for cause afterwards (if at all).

Rock's photo
Sat 01/26/19 10:39 AM
Mueller is a wuss.
Expect nothing less than gestapo
tactics from him.


shovelheaddave's photo
Sat 01/26/19 11:39 AM

Your attempt to claim similarities to gestapo are of course entirely wrong.

Actual "Gestapo tactics" would be to arrest and incarcerate first, and then search for cause afterwards (if at all).


when people deny reality,they are forced to invent a totally different reality as a coping mechanism to rationalize their own viewpoints.

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Sat 01/26/19 11:51 AM
Edited by tombraider on Sat 01/26/19 12:15 PM


Here is a couple of sites on Mueller and Cohen one report which has been leaked from the Mueller report..Dems sure aren't going to like the first one ..

On YOUTUBE type in:


1. A Patriot On TEAM-MUELLER

2. Mueller's Unprecedented Move



Enjoy The Show..smile2



This one on YOUTUBE is an info bonus: What Was destroyed in Clinton House-Fire?

Lpdon's photo
Sun 01/27/19 09:08 PM

I haven't been following political news that much anymore.
It just seems more like a circus where the attempt is to trigger outrage than inform.

I mean:
"they leaked the raid in advance to CNN"
Who is "they?" Some Illuminati group? Pelosi? The head of the FBI? A single disgruntled FBI agent that hates Trump?
Was it leaked or did CNN learn about it some other way? Like CNN has an illegal/hacked/legal FBI/military/police frequency radio?
Was it actually leaked? Or was the FBI just slow and lazy? They showed up and some neighbor called CNN and they showed up during the multi hour process, or local news and CNN bought all the footage of local newshounds following swat vans?

"Then you seen thirty tacked up Federal Agents with guns drawn serving a warrant"
I was driving down in the hood for work not too long ago, saw a couple sheriff's vans and 3 cop cars pull up to a house, about 8-10 sheriff's deputies went up and served a warrant.
That was on a little ghetto house. I sat and watched them arrest 1 guy.

I don't know what kind of house or security Roger Stone has.
For all I know he has 30 personal security guards and a 1000 acre property.
That's going to take a lot of agents to secure.
I mean I lived in Colorado for a bit, adjacent to a billionaire with hundreds or thousands of acres of property. Whenever he planned on coming for a visit to his home, just a week or month visit, about a dozen security agents would precede him by a couple weeks and start investigating the community of about 1500 people, see if there was anyone new, check out the property, look for dangers.
Maybe all of those agents weren't for Roger Stone but a means to secure everyone else?

I don't know if he lives in a 1500 square foot bungalow on 1/8th of an acre in the middle of suburbia, or has a sprawling gated compound with a private army.

Also, I remember the raid on subway Jareds house. A ton of cops were sent there too, in order to prevent destruction of evidence, to seize computers and files, for child porno.

I don't know about "guns drawn" but they tend to not send agents in the field without guns, and there are policies and procedures in place in how to approach a place, secure it. Hard not to have "guns drawn" with assault rifles.

Mueller is grasping at straws.

I agree.
Seems people being prosecuted are being prosecuted for stupid reasons, procedural reasons. Like Andy Bernard lawyering; "what about your lies david?! You sent a text: 'all is good, my wife has a cold,' well which is it? Is all good? Or your wife sick?!" Based on the Mueller probe he'd be arrested for lying under oath (if he worked for Trump).
And Cohen going to jail? Let's see, he went to a bank, and lied about his assets and income to get a loan. Hmmm, sounds so familiar, but I must be crazy, because there weren't millions of other people doing the same thing, influencing the housing crisis. Musta happened in my dream.

Seems like doing something similar to FBI agents standing around outside a medical marijuana dispensary in a legalized state waiting for someone who knows someone they don't like to come out in order to arrest them for violating federal drug laws.




If I were a betting man I would bet sure money that Mueller was the one who leaked it. He would rather try it in the court of public opinion then a court of law.