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Topic: What is the 25th Amendment?
Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/11/18 11:46 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 09/11/18 11:50 AM
actually,the hurdle for the 25th is even higher than the one for Impeachment!

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/11/18 11:49 AM
“The Constitution is not a living organism. It is a legal document, that says what it says and doesn’t say what it doesn’t.”
- Justice Antonin Scalia

like my progressive friends, I do NOT want "conservative" justices--unlike my conservative friends, I want constitutional justices, who understand, like J Scalia, that the Constitution is a legal document--a "contract", if you will, with none of its provisions and/or clauses permitted to be revised or amended or abrogated without all parties' endorsements.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/11/18 11:55 AM

“The Constitution is not a living organism. It is a legal document, that says what it says and doesn’t say what it doesn’t.”
- Justice Antonin Scalia

like my progressive friends, I do NOT want "conservative" justices--unlike my conservative friends, I want constitutional justices, who understand, like J Scalia, that the Constitution is a legal document--a "contract", if you will, with none of its provisions and/or clauses permitted to be revised or amended or abrogated without all parties' endorsements.
sup man, how you been?

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Sat 09/15/18 09:01 AM




Oh, and as a postscript to my last posting:

If the last months of Obama's presidency showed that we were heading for recession, the resulting recession, even though it happened during Trump's presidency, could not be blamed on Trump. It is the way it goes.

For example, some Dems say that there were TWO Bush recessions, one the beginning of his term, one near the end. That is not a valid statement. The market was cooling after the dot-com bubble burst, and a lot of money was taken off the table, by many means. Mostly it was people who didn't understand the market, and who should not have been in the market, buying stocks they disn't research because of "Fear of missing out" Clinton's previous Laziez faire (somebody correct my spelling) approach to the market during the bulk of his term was not a correct approach at the end. Lots of things like e-trading were also new, so it was a bit of uncharted water.

In any case, W inherited a tough economy which was not his doing. The "second" recession of his 8 years was all his, however.
I have to disagree...when Clinton was in office, the economy was great gas was at 87 cents a gallon, there was no big deficit.... Things started to go bad after 9/11....but Clinton did do something somewhat suspicious - one of the last bills he signed was lowering the score for credit worthyness for people who can't afford homes to get a home...take a guess whos corporate names were on that bill.. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae....
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/28/is_clinton_the_real_housing_crash_villain_130707.html


Ahh, disagreement from a man who self-admits in another thread that he doesn't know economics. And another biased article? The cheers for Trump in it should have given it away. If it was the Clintons that caused the "second" Bush recession (the first one, as I have already stated, can't be blamed fully on Bush, but on the burst dot-com bubble), why was the action not taken by the Bush administration until 2005, as clearly stated in the article? That is after Bush's second term started. Possibly Bush was under pressure from his friends on Wall St to leave it just so?

Gas was indeed .87 a gallon under Bill Clinton, and shot up to over $4, when W invaded Iraq. One could speculate that a president in the oil business would KNOW that gas would go way up if they invaded a country (one which had nothing to do with 9/11), and what effect it might have on the economy. Hey, his advisors (which were mostly advisors from his dad's administration) didn't think they would make the same mistake twice....

Hmmm, now that you bring it up, I am trying to think, did the price of gas go UP or DOWN during the Obama administration? I seem to recall it was under $2 for a most of Obama's second term.





Wrong again. Gas was up over $3 a gallon in 2008, and then again from 2011 to 2014. It NEVER got below $2 a gallon during obama's tenure.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/204740/retail-price-of-gasoline-in-the-united-states-since-1990/



Ah, I stand corrected, thanks. I should speak REGIONALLY in the Northeast (probably mid Atlantic as well) it went down to those levels. California with its higher emissions requirements (and thus, higher $$) might have skewed the national number.



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