Topic: Interesting thing..........
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Tue 07/10/18 07:52 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Tue 07/10/18 07:54 PM
I love how President Trump is in the hot seat over alleged ties to Russian Agents when I just watched an interview with Frank Figliuzzi, you might remember him as the former Assistant Director of the FBI's counter Intelligence Division who was in charge of the SVR Illegals investigation.

I always wondered why they were so quick to make arrests so soon after discovering the operation. Usually the Government will take a lot, lot longer to develop information, pass false intelligence and find other Agents and handlers. Plus forming the basis of the arrest on a false passport given to Anna Chapman by an FBI informant was always weak. We've never in our history acted so quick. Look back at Robert Hanssen who was one of the top FBI Officials, they sat on him for a couple years, assigned 24/7 live surveillance on him when they already had him for more serious crimes then a false passport. If the Russians wouldn't have flipped so easy in custody we would have probably never known the truth.

I always thought it was yet another bungle of the Obama Administration when in fact it was the FBI that saved his administration's a$$.


The truth is according to Figliuzzi, that the call was made to make the arrest because the Illegal's had infiltrated the top members of the Obama Administration when they realized that Anna Chapman was setting up one of Obama's top people in a "Honey Trap". He also said that another Russian spy Cynthia Murphy had infiltrated Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2008 and got close to people around Hillary in 2012...….

Interesting, very interesting. Here we have the same Agents that were involved in the Illegals investigation who acted prematurely to potentially save a Presidential Administration set the next one up. Senior Agents have already resigned over it and have gone before Congress. One is facing jail time over some texts with another Senior FBI Official that they will do anything to keep Trump from getting elected. Imagine if they took the same attitude with Trump that they did with Obama and any know foreign intelligence Agent coming into contact with the Trump Administration they would be all over, but no. Interesting.

Rock's photo
Tue 07/10/18 09:11 PM
The FBI has repeatedly shown itself,
to be nothing more than the enforcement
branch of the DNC.


Lpdon's photo
Tue 07/10/18 09:37 PM

The FBI has repeatedly shown itself,
to be nothing more than the enforcement
branch of the DNC.





They violated the basic principals and guidelines our intelligence communities follow. Every Administration up until Obama would let those situations play out. They should have looped in the Obama official that was getting played and let the "Honey Trap" go through but controlled by the FBI. Then maybe they could have charged them with actual Espionage and not the simple charge they ended up getting charged with.


Also they were arrested, plead guilty and a prisoner swap was already in place for ALL of them within 10 days of their arrest! That is unheard of! Plus we got four high value Russian assets of ours that would have taken considerable negotiations and time to get. This was a perfect example of having a weak President who wanted to do damage control then get the job done.


Also Obama claimed not to speak to the Russian President once about the situation. He's lying. We had the red line to Moscow installed in the White House because of incidents like this that could escalate. There is no way this would be over in less then 10 days and people silenced the way they were unless Obama and Putin signed off on it, and I say Putin even though he wasn't the technical President at the time everyone knows Dimitry was a puppet President because Putin was termed out. Also Putin was KGB, this would be the kind of operation he would personally be involved with as President of Russia and Prime Minister!

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Wed 07/11/18 02:35 AM
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/356630-fbi-watched-then-acted-as-russian-spy-moved-closer-to-hillary

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Wed 07/11/18 02:40 AM
Frank Figliuzzi, the FBI's assistant director of counterintelligence, said Miss Chapman's handlers at Russia's SVR (Foreign Intelligence Service) had intended her to be a "honeytrap" and she had got "closer and closer to higher and higher ranking leadership".

He added: "She got close enough to disturb us." Chapman, now 30, was one of ten "illegals" – Russian sleeper agents – who were ejected from the US in July 2010 after their attempts at spying were monitored for several years by the FBI.

The group was previously thought to have been mostly harmless. FBI surveillance suggested the spies were tasked with penetrating US policy-making circles but garnered no sensitive information.

However, Mr Figliuzzi said the fear of Miss Chapman ensnaring a particular cabinet member was one of the prime reasons that FBI agents swooped on the Russian spy ring.

"We were becoming very concerned," he told the BBC's Modern Spies programme. "They were getting close enough to a sitting US cabinet member that we thought we could no longer allow this to continue."

Mr Figliuzzi refused to name the individual concerned but made clear that Miss Chapman caused particular alarm. "I think part of her value was indeed her ability to be engaging, charismatic and I think to that extent she might have been viewed by them [the SVR] as a potential honey trap," he said. "She was getting closer and closer to higher and higher ranking leadership."

Mr Figliuzzi said the cabinet member was warned of the threat.
Miss Chapman has become a minor celebrity since returning to Russia, posing for men's magazines, launching her own television show about the paranormal and modelling at catwalk fashion shows.

She and the other illegals were awarded with state medals and they got together with Prime Minister Vladimir Putin to sing a sentimental Soviet song about a Russian spy.

Miss Chapman also became an adviser to Molodaya Gvardiya (Young Guard), the youth wing of Putin's United Russia party.

Before moving to the United States, Miss Chapman, whose maiden name was Kushchenko, married an Englishman and spent four years until 2008 living in Britain.

In summer 2010, it was reported that during her time in the UK Miss Chapman frequented nightclubs visited by Princes William and Harry such as Boujis, Movida and Tramp. M15 were said to be checking whether the Russian spy had targeted the royals.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/9183914/Russian-spy-Anna-Chapman-was-close-to-seducing-Obama-official.html

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Wed 07/11/18 02:46 AM
Clinton's big uranium deal came out of this Spy Swap..... Yet they still get mad because a couple of President Trumps officials met with declared Russian officials..... The hypocrisy of the left shows no limit.

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Wed 07/11/18 03:33 AM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 07/11/18 03:57 AM


Hell I'm still trying to figure out why there is still an ongoing investigation..they've already proven that the FISA warrant was illegaly obtained so why are we still investigating when we know the whole thing was a hoax..they are trying to say that Trump obstructed justice..there was no justice to obstruct because there was no justice being portrayed it was all a hoax..and they still want to call him in and question him when there is no grounds to call him in because if it's all a hoax there is no reason to continue pursuing this let alone question him..so why are we still doing this
..the midterms?

And the idea that Hillary is even given a chance to run again .. the game is afoot

Pompeo asked Hillary for advice..that was a ruse..she told him not to get rid of anyone in the state dept... He wasn't really asking her for advice but what she unknowingly wound up doing was point him in the direction of the state dept..and now they know there are still people in the state dept working for her..The queen got played..

Just another move in this great game of chess that Trump is playing..like I said in another post ..if there are people (chess pieces)..still in play it's because they are needed at present..The game is just about over and it wouldn't surprise me if all this is still going on to draw out as many swamp rats as possible... A great game of chess is indeed being played..

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Wed 07/11/18 04:09 AM
So... what you guys are all trying to pretend to believe is that if the Russians have been overtly trying to screw with the US illegally even before Trump came on the scene, that therefore the entire claim that the Russians are pulling stunts was made up, and never happened?

Interesting take.

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Wed 07/11/18 04:34 AM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 07/11/18 05:07 AM



Did the Russians obtain 20% of our Uranium ..I believe they did ..were they working with us during this time.. who knows..are they working with us now..there is a good chance..Did Russia want Trump to win ..why would they when they could get what they wanted from crooked Hillary..Why would Putin want to work with us I don't know maybe he's getting older and wants world peace..rather than watch rocket man spread radiation all over the place..maybe he doesn't like pedophiles..there is still those questions yet to be answered .. Maybe Russia isn't that much different than us..maybe everything has been lies..Do you know? for sure and proven how?

There is one thing ..all that we know about Russia and how bad they are has come from the main stream media and our government ..how much of that has been true..do we know? after all the years of brain washing what exactly is true ..Do you know?..and where do we obtain our information from..from those who have lied to us for years..and what was their agenda?..wars for profit.. are the opposing sides that we stand on those that were created? for profit

We could argue sides but what do we really know other than the lies we have been told..we have been getting our news from fake news sources and our government ..so do any of us really know the truth or just what we have been told..we didn't create this matrix we just live in it..



Which one of us can honestly stand up and say we know the truth..and what sources would we say we used to obtain this truth..and you know this is the truth how..because it's what THEY say is the truth..and we trust them why..because they don't lie..spock ..really..and here we go again ...believing that which we can't prove to be the truth..and picking sides just like we have been doing all along as if our government and the MSM don't lie and yet we've proven they have lied to us..So who do we believe ..in my opinion NO ONE..and what side do we take ..why are there sides? when we don't know the truth..

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Wed 07/11/18 06:20 AM

So... what you guys are all trying to pretend to believe is that if the Russians have been overtly trying to screw with the US illegally even before Trump came on the scene, that therefore the entire claim that the Russians are pulling stunts was made up, and never happened?

Interesting take.
nice twist try, but it's been proven...

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Wed 07/11/18 09:18 PM

So... what you guys are all trying to pretend to believe is that if the Russians have been overtly trying to screw with the US illegally even before Trump came on the scene, that therefore the entire claim that the Russians are pulling stunts was made up, and never happened?

Interesting take.



No, I am saying the FBI rushed in to protect Obama before it became a scandal but they let it happen to Trump because they were trying to sink his campaign and there are text and email proof. It wan bungled. They could have monitored it and even let the "Honey Trap" happen on Obamas cabinet official and monitor the whole things so they could have evidence of espionage. They violated every core rule of intelligence work to protect Obama and Hillary from bad press.

One FBI Agent is going to jail and now the US Marshalls are going to be serving an arrest warrant on a second top FBI official because she wont testify to her involvement They conspired to prevent Trump from getting elected when Hillary's campaigns were infiltrated by these Russian spies and they rushed in to protect her as well.

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Wed 07/11/18 10:56 PM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 07/11/18 11:19 PM



With Obama the evidence was there so they had to shut it down quickly in order to cover it up because they were working with him..but with Trump they had no evidence so they needed time to fabricate it ..so they made up the fake dossier and they set Jr. up with that bogus meeting at the Trump tower to make it look like they were colluding and now they are fabricating fake documents in order to create more fake evidence..


But what they didn't know was Trump was working with the military and maybe someone on the inside Seth Rich? IDK.. Trump was well aware of what was going on before he was president..he was groomed for this job (I believe) but being unaware the DNC thought time was on their hands ..all the while Trump was just playing along and giving them all the rope they needed while they exposed more of the swamp rats

Everyone keeps asking why Hillary is not in jail when it's so obvious that she should be..it's because they left that Evil queen on the board because they needed to play her in order to expose even more and she did and they had to let them think they were getting away with what they were doing ..when Pompeo called her to ask her for advice ..she told him not to get rid of anyone in the state dept..they knew now there were more people in the state dept they needed to get rid of...... Pompeo didn't need her advice but she got played and told them where to look


The only reason some of the people are still in play is to help flush out more swamp rats and to see who all is involved as they keep trying to fabricate more fake information the more they expose themselves..the game is just about over but in this case the longer the game plays out the farther we are able to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes..


While they thought time was on their side it became their worst enemy and now the whole lot of them will have all the time they need to go over their mistakes as they sit and rot in jail..just a matter of time..Check mate..Evil Queen..you lose..

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Thu 07/12/18 10:31 PM




With Obama the evidence was there so they had to shut it down quickly in order to cover it up because they were working with him..but with Trump they had no evidence so they needed time to fabricate it ..so they made up the fake dossier and they set Jr. up with that bogus meeting at the Trump tower to make it look like they were colluding and now they are fabricating fake documents in order to create more fake evidence..


But what they didn't know was Trump was working with the military and maybe someone on the inside Seth Rich? IDK.. Trump was well aware of what was going on before he was president..he was groomed for this job (I believe) but being unaware the DNC thought time was on their hands ..all the while Trump was just playing along and giving them all the rope they needed while they exposed more of the swamp rats

Everyone keeps asking why Hillary is not in jail when it's so obvious that she should be..it's because they left that Evil queen on the board because they needed to play her in order to expose even more and she did and they had to let them think they were getting away with what they were doing ..when Pompeo called her to ask her for advice ..she told him not to get rid of anyone in the state dept..they knew now there were more people in the state dept they needed to get rid of...... Pompeo didn't need her advice but she got played and told them where to look


The only reason some of the people are still in play is to help flush out more swamp rats and to see who all is involved as they keep trying to fabricate more fake information the more they expose themselves..the game is just about over but in this case the longer the game plays out the farther we are able to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes..


While they thought time was on their side it became their worst enemy and now the whole lot of them will have all the time they need to go over their mistakes as they sit and rot in jail..just a matter of time..Check mate..Evil Queen..you lose..


Yeah, just think if we had a President with balls we would have sat on the Russian thing in 2010 and did counter surveillance and would have caught a lot more and they would have been serious charges, not slap on the wrists.

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Fri 07/13/18 12:48 PM




With Obama the evidence was there so they had to shut it down quickly in order to cover it up because they were working with him..but with Trump they had no evidence so they needed time to fabricate it ..so they made up the fake dossier and they set Jr. up with that bogus meeting at the Trump tower to make it look like they were colluding and now they are fabricating fake documents in order to create more fake evidence..


But what they didn't know was Trump was working with the military and maybe someone on the inside Seth Rich? IDK.. Trump was well aware of what was going on before he was president..he was groomed for this job (I believe) but being unaware the DNC thought time was on their hands ..all the while Trump was just playing along and giving them all the rope they needed while they exposed more of the swamp rats

Everyone keeps asking why Hillary is not in jail when it's so obvious that she should be..it's because they left that Evil queen on the board because they needed to play her in order to expose even more and she did and they had to let them think they were getting away with what they were doing ..when Pompeo called her to ask her for advice ..she told him not to get rid of anyone in the state dept..they knew now there were more people in the state dept they needed to get rid of...... Pompeo didn't need her advice but she got played and told them where to look


The only reason some of the people are still in play is to help flush out more swamp rats and to see who all is involved as they keep trying to fabricate more fake information the more they expose themselves..the game is just about over but in this case the longer the game plays out the farther we are able to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes..


While they thought time was on their side it became their worst enemy and now the whole lot of them will have all the time they need to go over their mistakes as they sit and rot in jail..just a matter of time..Check mate..Evil Queen..you lose..



I just read an article where top NSA and counter intelligence officials (ones who actually care about the country and not a political party) were not happy with them getting pulled so early. They said these agents were just conduits to more senior agents inside Fort Meade and other DOD offices like the DIA. That's a huge problem.


If Obama and Holder would have followed our basic rules on counter intelligence we would have found the other Agents.

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Fri 07/13/18 01:16 PM



Exactly why they didn't because if we had sat on the Russian thing in 2010 it would have pointed right back to Obama and Clinton and the Deep State..and there never would have been the whole Fusion GPS fiasco..The Deep State has been selling us out for a long time..I still don't think we're are going to be able to uproot all the swamp rats..

They've gotten to what now printing up fake documents altogether in a last ditch attempt to save as much of the Deep State in hopes to rebuild..sad affair no telling how much these people have stolen from the American citizens over the decades..It's doubtful we will ever get them all ..only able to get the scum that has risen to the surface..


Total bunch of low lifes..and you can trust that Obama and Holder didn't follow any type of protocol in order to cover their butts...


Don't know if it would do any good and altho not admissible in court I would polygraph every damn one of them if for nothing else to point us in the other directions we may need to be looking because how far do they think they will get having crooked people investigating crooked people..not very logical..Hopefully WIKILEAKS and Assange can come up with some more info that exposes more of them..but I hate relying on hope where the safety of the U.S is concerned..



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Fri 07/13/18 10:47 PM




Exactly why they didn't because if we had sat on the Russian thing in 2010 it would have pointed right back to Obama and Clinton and the Deep State..and there never would have been the whole Fusion GPS fiasco..The Deep State has been selling us out for a long time..I still don't think we're are going to be able to uproot all the swamp rats..

They've gotten to what now printing up fake documents altogether in a last ditch attempt to save as much of the Deep State in hopes to rebuild..sad affair no telling how much these people have stolen from the American citizens over the decades..It's doubtful we will ever get them all ..only able to get the scum that has risen to the surface..


Total bunch of low lifes..and you can trust that Obama and Holder didn't follow any type of protocol in order to cover their butts...


Don't know if it would do any good and altho not admissible in court I would polygraph every damn one of them if for nothing else to point us in the other directions we may need to be looking because how far do they think they will get having crooked people investigating crooked people..not very logical..Hopefully WIKILEAKS and Assange can come up with some more info that exposes more of them..but I hate relying on hope where the safety of the U.S is concerned..





The other thing is Obama had to big of an ego to play the long game. The short game is self serving and self satisfying, which describes that man perfectly.

If he had a little patience it would have paid off big time. He never played the long game with anything during his Presidency and its why it was a failure. A great President will look into the future and plan 10-15 moves ahead unlike Obama who was a horrible President what couldn't see past 3-4 moves ahead.

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Sat 07/14/18 07:09 AM



When we can see that Obama wanted to destroy America ..I don't think he was interested in the long game.it didn't serve his purpose and would have probably exposed his nefarious deeds as well..He had to shut it down..he had another agenda as we have been finding out.

He knows and probably knew what Hillary and the Globalists were up to and he joined in and supported Hillary..easy enough just in that thought to see where he stood..But hopefully he too will be going away for a long time..I mean after all we are looking at a guy whose ego is so over inflated that he has been attempting to take over the government..just another traitor in my book...smokin