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Its not all bad, but its not all good either.
Yeah, I'm not arguing with you. But take a moment and look back at the stuff you post and reply and there is a trend to your reasoning. I can count on most of your participation being negative or defending negativity. Its just an observation. I really don't care what you do but it does get tiresome seeing the same negativity over and over (not just from you). As for what is wrong with the world, I really don't care. I am alone by choice because of my health. I am not part of the society and I am insignificant. When and if the insanity reaches me, I will deal with it. Till then, I'll just let it pass by. I have a hard time staying verticle sometimes. Do you think I care what goes on with strangers in a society that is insane? I feel fortunate when I don't die in my sleep. When I do venture out into society my impression of people is that they are inherently good and moral. I also don't go to bad parts of town. I am a white guy living in a primarily black part of town and the people here are good, moral people. There is riff raff but there is riff raff in all communities. When people treat me with respect I return the gesture. When they don't I dismiss them to their own devices and let it go. If there were a day in the year where I could kill those I don't care for, I wouldn't. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 07/07/18 05:13 PM
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Interesting perspective. I get tired of negativity too, which is why I so rarely start these threads. I feel like merely responding or disagreeing with others is too often painted as being 'negative. I feel like 'i dont care' perspectives are negative too. But it is interesting to read different perspectives none the less.
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 07/07/18 05:14 PM
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double post.
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I don't recall Trump saying that people should basically harass people no matter where they go .. |
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I don't recall Trump saying that people should basically harass people no matter where they go .. no, he just condoned grabbing womens vaginas without consent or knocking out or roughing up protestors ... no biggy. |
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The newest film, “The First Purge,” is a prequel that explains the Purge’s origins, with Staten Island as the test case. DeMonaco said he wanted to stress how evil ideas could be sold if the media and public are not critical enough, and in the film, cable news obliges, airing highlights as if it’s the NFL RedZone channel of mass murder. It also emphasizes that the psychology behind the concept was specious from the start, and that the agenda was always to eliminate the lower class. Is America that close to state-sanctioned killing? https://www.yahoo.com/news/coming-country-near-nightmare-world-james-demonacos-purge-171603928.html Look forward to it being a pay-per-view event within the next 20 years. Question is, would you purge, or lockdown? As for me, I have some very special purge subjects in mind, after that's done, I would probably lockdown for the rest my life. |
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Edited by
Viper1j
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Sun 07/08/18 04:15 AM
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You do realize you are defending an insanity mindset, right? Do you actively choose to think negative or is it beyond your control? A man trying to fly, used to be considered "an insane mindset". My point is, A person chooses to see the world around them in certain ways based on their expectations.
Experiences carry considerably more weight in shaping a person's perspective, than expectations. Are some people twisted, certainly.
As insane as society seems sometimes, there is no way it would tolerate Purge mentality. Tolerate it? More people than you can imagine, will EMBRACE it. "Some" people are not twisted, most of them are. They only keep it in check because society, at least present day society requires them to. And society is changing. It's now the "in" thing to hate blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims. You can see a lot of it right here on this board. And let's face it, there are some people that are alive today, only because it's illegal to kill them. All they're waiting for, is for the government to give them the stamp of approval to let their inner Nazi out. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Donny's name on that stamp. Compassion still defines us.
I could provide you with a rather long list of people that have been beaten, shot, stabbed, drug behind cars, and set on fire, that you would have a difficult time selling that to. |
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Edited by
tombraider
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Sun 07/08/18 06:00 AM
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Viper, Seriously most people are twisted..in order to make that observation you would have to know everyone in the world in order to say and prove that..I find that an impossibility..and isn't it funny how those who seem to be causing a lot of the problems like antifa are the ones promoting violence as we see ,many more examples of the violence being promoted by those who seem to be so opposed to it.. Here we go again the left blaming the right for all they are guilty of didn't Hillary and her group of cronies already attempt that..how's that working out for them.. But hey you all keep promoting your hate because it seems to be working out well for the movement..Wasn't it the left who keeps promoting a New World Order one only has to look at Obama's speech to see that ..now where have I heard that term New World Order before..oh yea that's right from the NAZIS .. One can say what they will but all others have to do is look these things up to see just who represents what..The libs are still butt hurt and are still trying to sell their BS to the world..But think of this ..as more information comes out about Obama and Hillary and how they were selling out their own country to Russia and all that Putin represents their time is coming ..Hillary is all about the children and how well she can traffick them..these are the types of people the left seem to represent under the guise of caring for them..You all have some great representatives there..lol If America has been hated it's because of the past administrations..as with the wars and the corruption not because of Trump I would like you all Ms H,Tom and even you Viper or anyone else to check out a site on YOUTUBE hosted by War Drummer ..listen to a few of his post and watch how the game of chess is being played covertly right before our eyes.. I think you might enjoy this.. |
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Edited by
Viper1j
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Sun 07/08/18 06:15 AM
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Viper, Seriously most people are twisted..in order to make that observation you would have to know everyone in the world in order to say and prove that..I find that an impossibility.. I don't have to see every single apple in the barrel, to know that they're mostly rotten. The smell coming from it will tell me everything I need to know. And believe it or not, there was a time not so very long ago, that the United States, Great Britain, France, actually most of the world was antifascist (a.k.a. Antifa). Which has nothing to do with this conversation. As I said, I can provide a very long list of people that have been beaten, stabbed, shot, dragging behind cars, and set on fire, IN THIS COUNTRY. And none of it was done by anyone that was black, Mexican, or Muslim. After he signs his little executive order, the vast majority of people that would be Purging, will be of the Caucasian persuasion. I would like you all Ms H,Tom and even you Viper or anyone else to check out a site on YOUTUBE hosted by War Drummer ..listen to a few of his post and watch how the game of chess is being played covertly right before our eyes.. I think you might enjoy this..
What you talk about, as an observer, some of us are stuck with the burden of living in. |
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I posted something about mindset in GENERAL in AMerica
its not about what the 'left' or 'right' or Obama or Trump do or say. In fact, Id add that the tendency to put people in these groups where one side holds the superior morale, is also an example of dehumanizing and making a certain group less 'worthy' or more of an 'enemy' than another. |
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We are living in a time where a lot of baby boomers have retired. My sister is in that group. Her and her husband planned very well for retirement. But for all of those that didn't plan well, govt will be supporting them. That means we need the younger generations to work. But a lot of them are on the system too. You can't have more people collecting a check than people paying taxes.
The purge is a good movie. Makes you think. I believe natural disaster kills off some of the poor.Drugs and gang violence kills off sime. Cutting social security, Medicare, and Medicaid will kill off some too. A few black men being shot by police really doesn't do much good. They leave 5-10 kids behind. |
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Experiences carry considerably more weight in shaping a person's perspective, than expectations.
Yes and I hope you do realize that its those experiences that shape expectations. Tolerate it? More people than you can imagine, will EMBRACE it. "Some" people are not twisted, most of them are. They only keep it in check because society, at least present day society requires them to. And society is changing. It's now the "in" thing to hate blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims. You can see a lot of it right here on this board. And let's face it, there are some people that are alive today, only because it's illegal to kill them.
I know I'm weird according to society. I also know I am antisocial as in I want nothing to do with the current society's insanity. I also know that the human species is over-populated and mass death (billions not millions) would be needed to get it back in balance. I also know that murder requires a mindset that many people would not be able to handle in reality. While they may 'fantasize' about killing the people they "hate" its a different thing entirely to actually go thru with it. Then, also, live with it after the deed is done. Delusion can be very different than reality. I could provide you with a rather long list of people that have been beaten, shot, stabbed, drug behind cars, and set on fire, that you would have a difficult time selling that to.
Okay, go for it. Provide that list and their contact information so I can talk to them and verify your assumption about them. Tell me where they live so I can go watch them and see if they have loss of compassion. Yeah, I didn't think so. I would like you all Ms H,Tom and even you Viper or anyone else to check out a site on YOUTUBE hosted by War Drummer ..listen to a few of his post and watch how the game of chess is being played covertly right before our eyes.. I think you might enjoy this..
I belong to a few SHTF Prepper Sites and they are rampant with conspiracy theorists. I've read and watched and listened to enough to know I don't care. A collapse is inevitable. Doesn't matter if it is natural or man made. its not about what the 'left' or 'right' or Obama or Trump do or say. In fact, Id add that the tendency to put people in these groups where one side holds the superior morale, is also an example of dehumanizing and making a certain group less 'worthy' or more of an 'enemy' than another.
I see it as narcissism. I think party affiliation and the childish banter between them is nonsense. I'm surprised that party affiliation still exists at our intelligence level. You would think that people would be past such things by now. Its obviously no longer productive. The purge is a good movie.
I found all the Purge movies entertaining, fun in fact. Not my favorite but not my least favorite. And yes, when I first watched it I briefly entertained the idea but I dismissed it as a fantasy which is what it is. |
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The thing is that I feel people may not be murderous, but they can be very apathetic towards certain people being killed. So if those can be 'safe' (those who feel they have 'earned' or deserve that safety more than the others) in their homes while others do the dirty work ... Im not sure it wouldnt be just fine with enough people for them to look the other way and justify it as a necessary evil to save money or maintain superior status, and maybe ESPECIALLY because they could set themselves apart by not actually doing any of the killing themselves.
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It's poor working people who keep the country going...farmers, teachers, factory workers etc. So I'm assuming by poor, you mean non working in public housing. Most people care about grandparents who aren't productive. People probably wouldn't care much if the lives of gangbangers, prostitutes, drug deals are lost.
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Edited by
Viper1j
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Sun 07/08/18 10:34 AM
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I also know that murder requires a mindset that many people would not be able to handle in reality. While they may 'fantasize' about killing the people they "hate" its a different thing entirely to actually go thru with it. Then, also, live with it after the deed is done. Delusion can be very different than reality.
You DO realize that "murder" is a legal term don't you? When killing is legal, it's not murder. People have a problem with murder, not killing. Hell, some people even have a problem with "killing", even when it's legal. Look at the pro-fetus crowd. I've killed (under orders), when he enacts the purge, I could kill again and sleep like a baby. Although, I must admit, that for the people I have in mind, my "purge", would be more akin to Hostel did what you see in The Purge. Okay, go for it. Provide that list and their contact information so I can talk to them and verify your assumption about them. Tell me where they live so I can go watch them and see if they have loss of compassion.
Yeah, I didn't think so. Sure, I'll get the list together for you.. You won't be able to ask a few of them like Emmett Till and James Byrd Jr. though.. They're dead. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 07/08/18 10:29 AM
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It's poor working people who keep the country going...farmers, teachers, factory workers etc. So I'm assuming by poor, you mean non working in public housing. Most people care about grandparents who aren't productive. People probably wouldn't care much if the lives of gangbangers, prostitutes, drug deals are lost. So if those can be 'safe' (those who feel they have 'earned' or deserve that safety more than the others) in their homes while others do the dirty work all poor are not equal, some still have networks that they can turn to who care enough about them and are ABLE ENOUGH to help them or keep them safe, others who are truly on their own and have no one, would be expendable enough for people to look the other way.... |
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The thing is that I feel people may not be murderous, but they can be very apathetic towards certain people being killed. So if those can be 'safe' (those who feel they have 'earned' or deserve that safety more than the others) in their homes while others do the dirty work ... Im not sure it wouldnt be just fine with enough people for them to look the other way and justify it as a necessary evil to save money or maintain superior status, and maybe ESPECIALLY because they could set themselves apart by not actually doing any of the killing themselves. I agree with this essentially but we are discussing the context of the Purge movie. People doing the killing themselves IS THE POINT of the movie. What you describe in this quote actually happens in real life. When murders happen people are appalled. Just look at all the responses in M2 threads about mass shootings and other mass killings. |
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The thing is that I feel people may not be murderous, but they can be very apathetic towards certain people being killed. So if those can be 'safe' (those who feel they have 'earned' or deserve that safety more than the others) in their homes while others do the dirty work ... Im not sure it wouldnt be just fine with enough people for them to look the other way and justify it as a necessary evil to save money or maintain superior status, and maybe ESPECIALLY because they could set themselves apart by not actually doing any of the killing themselves. I agree with this essentially but we are discussing the context of the Purge movie. People doing the killing themselves IS THE POINT of the movie. What you describe in this quote actually happens in real life. When murders happen people are appalled. Just look at all the responses in M2 threads about mass shootings and other mass killings. think about who gets killed in mass shootings and killings though.. those people are usually not groups people feel are expendable I saw Purge as a reflection of how willing people are to turn their backs on and see as expendable certain groups of people. in the movie, it is a certain class that can afford to be safe in their homes. Yes, there is an underground who hunt and kill for sport, but I dont feel that was as much the point as the mentality that people would be willing to accept such an extreme response to handling people they felt were a drain on the system or otherwise expendable. |
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No, people PRETEND to be appalled. But you have 50% that say "probably deserved it, they got what they had coming to them." And maybe 45% that say "better he then me".
The remaining 5% have blinders on. The vast majority of people don't give two farts. In a hurricane, it doesn't affect them on a personal level. |
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You DO realize that "murder" is a legal term don't you? When killing is legal, it's not murder. People have a problem with murder, not killing. Hell, some people even have a problem with "killing", even when it's legal. Look at the pro-fetus crowd. I've killed (under orders), when he enacts the purge, I could kill again and sleep like a baby. Although, I must admit, that for the people I have in mind, my "purge", would be more akin to Hostel did what you see in The Purge.
So, basically you are a sadistic killer by nature. Somehow, I can believe that. Sure, I'll get the list together for you..
When you have it compiled (with phone numbers, please) Contact me via M2 message and I'll give you my email so you can email me the list. Or don't, I don't care. (Whats that hissing sound? Oh, its the air escaping from your leaking balloon ego) all poor are not equal
All PEOPLE are not equal. Never were, are not now, nor ever will be. In a Purge scenario, its the people with families and friends that would be most vulnerable. I've seen enough spy movies to understand that torture is most effective when one must watch people they care about get killed in front of them. They will divulge secrets, do things they would normally not do, just to protect those they love. The lone individual would be the safest. Plus, in the Purge movies, title and entitlement has no significance over whether you are spared because nobody is exempt. |
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