Topic: Dem Says Hitler Was Misunderstood
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Thu 06/14/18 03:07 PM

JasonKM,

Except that Stone is trying to sell his film, he isn't bringing any thing new to the table.

Many Scholars and historians have written about Hitler, including his personal chef and driver.

Neo Nazis and Hitler supporters have written about Hitler showing him a good light

Anti Nazis have written about Hitler showing him in a bad light

Hitler biographers and documentary film makers have written about him trying to be neutral

And then we have Hitlers own words.

Jewish media or not, facts are facts and why he committed those atrocities has been discussed, dissected by minds way smarter than Oliver Stone.


Jason and deserli you are both very knowledgeable .. Wonderful contributions waving Personally I think there are far too many agendas when it comes to censorship .. freedom of speech should prevail .. has anyone made a movie about hitlers parents ???

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Thu 06/14/18 03:30 PM
no one to date has made a movie about Hitlers parents although I think it would be a fascinating movie or documentary

Because there is controversy about Hitler's father, as he was an illegitimate child ( Hitlers father)

Rumours has it that Hitlers grandfather was his mothers cousin, some believe it was a Jewish man, so there is no way Adolf could prove 100% Aryan blood

Unless they can dig up Hitler's sister grave as she died in 1960 and can do some test on her remains to determine her roots.

I dont know if it can be done, but Im sure the German government would not allow it they want the Hitler past to remain in the past.

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Thu 06/14/18 04:07 PM

no one to date has made a movie about Hitlers parents although I think it would be a fascinating movie or documentary

Because there is controversy about Hitler's father, as he was an illegitimate child ( Hitlers father)

Rumours has it that Hitlers grandfather was his mothers cousin, some believe it was a Jewish man, so there is no way Adolf could prove 100% Aryan blood

Unless they can dig up Hitler's sister grave as she died in 1960 and can do some test on her remains to determine her roots.

I dont know if it can be done, but Im sure the German government would not allow it they want the Hitler past to remain in the past.
do you know what his relationship was like with his sister ?? I know little about her .. was she like her brother ?

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Thu 06/14/18 04:23 PM
she shared some of his beliefs like many Germans who subscribed to the German nationalist rhetoric.

I saw a documentary on her and the only interview she ever gave and she claims she couldn't believe her brother was responsible for the death of all those Jews.

She mainly talked about how hers and Adolf childhood but when he became leader she hardly saw him even though she admitted that Hitler's SS guards were her body guards.

the were typical brother and sister , and she claimed she only met Eva Braun once maybe twice.. she kind of looked like Adolf

The documentary was called Tyranny: The Years of Adolf Hitler, she skillfully avoided talking about her brothers politics and anti antisemitism .

she never married or had kids, I cant imagine any normal guy wanting to hook up with sister of a one of the most evil men history has ever known.

If you can find it you should watch it Blondey.

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Thu 06/14/18 04:36 PM

she shared some of his beliefs like many Germans who subscribed to the German nationalist rhetoric.

I saw a documentary on her and the only interview she ever gave and she claims she couldn't believe her brother was responsible for the death of all those Jews.

She mainly talked about how hers and Adolf childhood but when he became leader she hardly saw him even though she admitted that Hitler's SS guards were her body guards.

the were typical brother and sister , and she claimed she only met Eva Braun once maybe twice.. she kind of looked like Adolf

The documentary was called Tyranny: The Years of Adolf Hitler, she skillfully avoided talking about her brothers politics and anti antisemitism .

she never married or had kids, I cant imagine any normal guy wanting to hook up with sister of a one of the most evil men history has ever known.

If you can find it you should watch it Blondey.
thank you so much .. I will definitely see if I can locate it .i cannot imagine what she felt, if it was ever possible for her to be candid with the world and the influence he had over her life . Or her influence over his . To live In hitlers shadow . I cannot begin to contemplate such a life .

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Thu 06/14/18 04:40 PM
it was interesting Blondey, yeah I mean how can you live it down, she tried changing her name but it always caught up to her so she became a recluse.

I remember watching Jeffery Dahmer documentary and they were interviewing his father , and you can see the pain in his eyes, imagine knowing you raised a monster.


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Thu 06/14/18 05:18 PM

it was interesting Blondey, yeah I mean how can you live it down, she tried changing her name but it always caught up to her so she became a recluse.

I remember watching Jeffery Dahmer documentary and they were interviewing his father , and you can see the pain in his eyes, imagine knowing you raised a monster.


it is interesting .. there is an old philosophical question that asks who would you be if you were not raised by your parents ..there is little doubt the influence parents have on us .. but what makes a monster is complex . I wonder what point in hitlers life shaped his extremist ideations the most . Like many I know what he did and how he came to power but I know little about the man behind the name . .. knowing him does not change the suffering he created but I have questions only he could answer

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Thu 06/14/18 05:25 PM
For Hitler he said in his book Mein Kampf of his struggles as teenager with no future, his rejection of getting into art school which was run by Jews, the loss of World War one and how the Jews benefited , it just fueled his rage.


How the Jews profited big time when the average German was starving because of the harsh realities of the treaty of Versailles by the allies, Britain,France and America

which is why he took great pleasure when his German forces defeated France.


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Sun 06/17/18 08:06 PM

no one to date has made a movie about Hitlers parents although I think it would be a fascinating movie or documentary

Because there is controversy about Hitler's father, as he was an illegitimate child ( Hitlers father)

Rumours has it that Hitlers grandfather was his mothers cousin, some believe it was a Jewish man, so there is no way Adolf could prove 100% Aryan blood

Unless they can dig up Hitler's sister grave as she died in 1960 and can do some test on her remains to determine her roots.

I dont know if it can be done, but Im sure the German government would not allow it they want the Hitler past to remain in the past.


Ugh, Hitler's grandfather is not Jewish. That was a rumor spread by his enemies during his time in office. Such claims were made about several top Nazi leaders like Himmler, Heydrich Mueller and others.

If we wanted a DNA test we have relatives of Hitler living right here in the United States. In fact his last living relatives live here.

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Sun 06/17/18 08:13 PM




I don't think he would have. He would have needed another partner nation at the very least to go in and shut it down. Their operations were spread across the country/ They also had some of the most high tech Military Equipment.

Not to mention its the job of all of the Allies who signed the treaty to send forces in to shut it down.


interesting point, I didn't consider the other allies, but from what Ive read about Churchill, he was a stubborn man but also a strong and effective war time leader.

do you think he would have convinced the other Treaty of Versailles signers to see it his way and invade?





No, he tried. He tried for years to get Roosevelt to go in but he wouldn't, even after the war started we wouldn't officially get involved. The English had France and Poland and they didn't have the strength to go in with the British. Hell Poland and France fell to Germany really fast. They needed a superpower like the United States or Russia to help enforce anything like that.

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Sun 06/17/18 08:18 PM
I didn't say he was Jewish, I said rumour has it among other rumours, nobody knows for sure.

Hitler has living relatives living in the states?

where?

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Sun 06/17/18 09:42 PM
Hitler wasn't German.
He was Austrian by birth and nationality.


Yes, there are Hitler relatives in the U.S..


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Mon 06/18/18 02:28 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 06/18/18 02:33 AM

I didn't say he was Jewish, I said rumour has it among other rumours, nobody knows for sure.

Hitler has living relatives living in the states?

where?


There were many rumors about a lot of people during World War II and 99% of them are propaganda.

Hitler's nephews four children are alive in the Unites States. Hitler's nephew was brought into the US by William Randal Hearst and Roosevelt let him join the United States Navy during World War II and later became a US Federal Law Enforcement Agent. Kind of ironic don't you think?

Also we have the Hitler families DNA on file. That's how the US research team sent to Russia to do DNA tests on the remains (Russia claimed were Hitlers) used to compare and determine that they did not belong to Hitler.



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Mon 06/18/18 02:40 AM

I didn't say he was Jewish, I said rumour has it among other rumours, nobody knows for sure.

Hitler has living relatives living in the states?

where?


You need to look up the TV show Hunting Hitler. It has a bunch of different specialists like the former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit, a former Delta Force member who was a part of the team that captured Saddam nd other HVT's, Federal Agents, Historians and members of military units and intelligence units from around the world. They have access to all Federal documents relating to Hitler and top Nazi officials. Even Hoover didn't think Hitler was dead and had FBI Agents around the world chasing down information.

They were able to verify Nazi strongholds in South America that still exist today and have found a good deal of evidence that Hitler didn't die at the end of World War II, that he made it out.

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Mon 06/18/18 05:23 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Mon 06/18/18 05:30 AM

no one to date has made a movie about Hitlers parents although I think it would be a fascinating movie or documentary


Well you could make it more topical.. Just do it about Donald Trump's parents. It's common knowledge that hid dad was a member of the KKK. He was arrested at one of the cross burning rallies. And Grandpa started the family fortune by pimping out Alaskan hookers to miners, but other than that...

And where Trump and Hitler are concerned, it's six of one, half dozen of the other. In light of this family separation thing he's got going, let's do a little side by side..


Let's see..

Hitler hated Jews..

Trump hates Muslims.

Hitler wanted to ban/deport Jews.

Trump wants to ban/deport Muslims. And Mexicans... Mostly anybody that's brown is fair game.

Hitler searched birth records to locate Jews.

Trump wants to search employment records to find Muslims.

Hitler made Germans give the "Seig Heil" salute.

Trump made his followers (cult?) give the "Sieg Heil" salute

Hitler seized assets from Jews.

Trump wants to seize Muslim assets. (We need to keep their oil..)

When mass deportations failed, Hitler sent them to the camps.

When mass deportations fail, what do you think Trump will do? (Oh wait.. he's already doing it..)

It's a historical fact as to how the Jews were treated in the camps.

Trump wants to "torture and a whole lot more".

Hitler supported incest as part of the eugenics program. Hoping to make a "pure" Master Race.

Trump has said many, many times on national tv how much he wants to bang his own daughter.

All that's missing, is the funny mustache. Maybe he can get Dr. Carson to be his Mengele For Muslims.

Gen Mike Haydem (Ret) compared Trumps kid "camps" to Auschwitz just this morning.

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Mon 06/18/18 05:39 AM



You need to look up the TV show Hunting Hitler. It has a bunch of different specialists like the former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit, a former Delta Force member who was a part of the team that captured Saddam nd other HVT's, Federal Agents, Historians and members of military units and intelligence units from around the world. They have access to all Federal documents relating to Hitler and top Nazi officials. Even Hoover didn't think Hitler was dead and had FBI Agents around the world chasing down information.

They were able to verify Nazi strongholds in South America that still exist today and have found a good deal of evidence that Hitler didn't die at the end of World War II, that he made it out.


I would believe that he didn't die at the end WW2, I can see that.

Ive seen a few documentaries about Hitler and I was just reading about Alois Sr. it seems you are right, he did have some other children through his affairs.

I stand corrected.

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Mon 06/18/18 06:07 AM


Well you could make it more topical.. Just do it about Donald Trump's parents. It's common knowledge that hid dad was a member of the KKK. He was arrested at one of the cross burning rallies. And Grandpa started the family fortune by pimping out Alaskan hookers to miners, but other than that...

And where Trump and Hitler are concerned, it's six of one, half dozen of the other. In light of this family separation thing he's got going, let's do a little side by side..


Let's see..

Hitler hated Jews..

Trump hates Muslims.

Hitler wanted to ban/deport Jews.

Trump wants to ban/deport Muslims. And Mexicans... Mostly anybody that's brown is fair game.

Hitler searched birth records to locate Jews.

Trump wants to search employment records to find Muslims.

Hitler made Germans give the "Seig Heil" salute.

Trump made his followers (cult?) give the "Sieg Heil" salute

Hitler seized assets from Jews.

Trump wants to seize Muslim assets. (We need to keep their oil..)

When mass deportations failed, Hitler sent them to the camps.

When mass deportations fail, what do you think Trump will do? (Oh wait.. he's already doing it..)

It's a historical fact as to how the Jews were treated in the camps.

Trump wants to "torture and a whole lot more".

Hitler supported incest as part of the eugenics program. Hoping to make a "pure" Master Race.

Trump has said many, many times on national tv how much he wants to bang his own daughter.

All that's missing, is the funny mustache. Maybe he can get Dr. Carson to be his Mengele For Muslims.

Gen Mike Haydem (Ret) compared Trumps kid "camps" to Auschwitz just this morning.



Talking about Irrelevant , the things Democrats says something that doesn't astonishes me.

As in Trump's Father being in the Klan, B.S, the same rumours of 4 actual U.S president being in the Klan as well, Truman, Harding, Wilson and McKinley

I dont propagate fictions, I only go by facts, and speaking of facts do you know who was actually in the Klan and a grand wizard whatever

The late Robert Byrd the Democrat party elder statements and mentor to one Hillary Rodham Clinton, or did we forget that?

lets go over your lies

Trump doesn't hate Muslims

Trump wants to depart illegal citizens not just Mexicans or brown skin

Trump wants to keep middle east oil? too funny every president since Richard Nixon because of the oil embargo wants to have unlimited access to Oil... duh.

Trump made his cult followers do the sieg heil, and you have proof of this besides made up meme's and anti Trump rhetoric


Do you really believe Trump will put Muslims in the camps like what FDR did to the Japanese?

I have one word for you , are you ready Viper, are you sitting down?

here is why that will never happen..... CONGRESS
as in Congress wont allow it.


As in Trump wanting to bang is his own daughter? please you fools took what he said out of context which isnt the first time nor will be the last, the actual comment he made was distasteful but not an indication he wanted to bang her... you sick bastard.

Gen Mike Haydem (Ret) compared Trumps kid "camps" to Auschwitz just this morning.


No he was comparing U.S. immigration policies of separating mothers and children to the policies of Nazi Germany particularly labour camps

Because the U.S will allow children you know actually children and some mothers and not adult men.

We know you people hate Trump, look get over it Trump won, Hillary Clinton lost and there is nothing you can do about it.


these are the facts Viper

and you're welcome.




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Mon 06/18/18 06:19 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Mon 06/18/18 06:29 AM
There is no "Congress". The people currently occupying the Capitol, have no spines and kneel at the altar of King Don.

They're all running scared after what happened to Sanford.

I'm just waiting for him to declare himself President For Life ala Xi Jinping and see if the military will back him in his quest.

Trump wants to depart illegal citizens not just Mexicans or brown skin


Care to explain this?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/06/17/jose-luis-garcia-green-card-detained-ice-daughter-sot.cnn

Immigration officials detain legal US resident (P.S. He's brown)

Jose Luis Garcia, 62, was drinking coffee outside his Los Angeles-area home when he was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents. CNN's Ivan Watson speaks with his daughter, Natalie Garcia.


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Mon 06/18/18 06:26 AM
There is no congress ROFL...


Congress is the reason why Trump cant things he wants done

Congress is the reason why Obama couldn't get a lot of things done

Congress is the reason why Bush 43 couldn't get a lot of what he wanted done.

Congress is the reason why Clinton couldn't get a lot of things done and to that I say thank GOD.

Congress is the reason why Reagan couldn't get things done , he wanted to eliminate the department of education, congress wouldn't allow it

He had to compromise to make a deal for his star wars program in exchange for a one time amnesty

Congress holds the balance of power, the president is just the gate keeper and gets the credit.

Off topic,

why do you think FDR couldn't stack the Supreme court with his people, because Congress blocked it.

How do you think LBJ got his civil rights act passed, he had to make deals with certain members of congress.


History doesn't lie, Marxists and democrats do




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Mon 06/18/18 06:30 AM
Know what else doean't lie?

Video.

I didn't say we never had a Congress, I said we don't have one anymore.