And might I add by getting them to join the military now you're closer to

manning the military 100% which would mean it would be less likely to

reinstate the draft while alleviating some of the overcrowding in the

prisons...

Military service can only work for a small percentage of the demographic.

Unity and conformity are two vital aspects of military service.
Two aspects that are often lacking in the criminal mind.

Leavenworth is full of examples of why it is not the answer as an across the board solution.

Being an avid fan of science fiction and fantasy, I have read or watched lots of solutions and the perils of each. The novel 1984 is a good example of how society attempts to use 'Big Brother' to prevent crime. How's that working in real life?

Part of finding a solution to any problem is to understand that a problem exists. Much of the population does not see our current correctional system as a problem until something happens and it gets focus. Then, it slowly fades away again, till the next thing that happens.
Our society has adopted the 'out of sight/out of mind' stance to our problems, not just correctional but anything that is not the norm.

It gets in our faces.
We scream for a solution, demand action.
Someone makes an effort.
We forget about it.

We don't do follow up till its in our faces again.
or
We scream for a fix, then complain about the fix till it goes away.
It doesn't matter if its correctional systems, the president or a nightclub bombing.

Sure there are some that are directly affected by these problems but as a society we lose focus. We tend to not maintain our unity which is a vital aspect of society.

Look Tom I'll take a win no matter how small. What is it they say "if it helps one person" well I see it helping more than one and that's at least a step in the right direction..eh..No it's not a fix the whole world but one can see where it would be beneficial in a lot of ways to who knows how many.

Definitely worth a try and better than sitting back and saying "if it doesn't fix the whole problem why bother"..


Being as individual as people are I sincerely doubt there's a one size fits all..after all I mean jeans don't even do that..and Tom...quit being such a negative Nelly..

I really don't think that the military would want them among
their ranks. They want the best and brightest and druggies aren't
that. We can blame ourselves or blame the victims, as some suggest,
but we have to clean up our streets first. Reform, rehab or what
ever won't happen by rewarding criminal behavior.

I can say from experience, thats not true. the 'best and the brightest' only applies to higher ranks. When it comes to the enlistee rookie, numbers are really what mostly matter.

Military is not a reward. Its a very difficult job that immerses people in discipline and structure and responsbility.

I have veteran family members.

And I agree with this comment!

The military does not accept convicts or ex-convicts.

maybe they should start, if they are young, healthy, and open to the endoctrination/training ... I mean, they will be trained to kill, what 'crime' is more intense than that?

Trained to kill who? Each other? The military does not accept convicts for many reasons, one being drugs. Just guessing but that would eliminate
most of them and the others mental disorders. It was a kind thought but
ain't gonna happen. Trade and job skills would be better.

This is very True!

Hmm, Not sure why you would think I was attacking or belittling you?
I was just offering a different view is all.
There isn't really a positive view on society's problems.
They are problems because they are negative.
I tell it the way I see it.
Just because you see it differently than I doesn't make either of us wrong or right. It makes us different.
There is no solution to this because if there were, it would no longer be an issue.

and like I was saying, that discipline and structure and responsbility is not present in the criminal mindset. It can be for some but not all. That is why I don't believe it could be a blanket fix.

The military is more than just a bunch of people killing people. One very important aspect of the military is the ability to comprehend, accept and carry out orders from their commanders without hesitation or question.
Many criminals have a problem with authority figures.
Bad combination for the miltary.

No problem Tom.I didn't think you were attacking or belittling me ..I was messin with ya..notice the little laughing guy at the end ..perhaps you missed my attempt at humor in type..either way no problem..

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