Topic: Rise of the Right
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Sun 08/13/17 09:01 AM


yep, well, that is the thing about the democratic republic, the people get to VOTE,,,


they do in syria as well, but the democrats were trying to force Assad out... why is that?

I can never understand why, you think they would have learned by the history of the last 30 years. those kind of people need unfortunately to be controlled /lead by that kind of leader!
Libya was the same now look at it.
Although I think the underlying reason was more to do with Lockerbie and gadaffi not doing what they wanted.

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Sun 08/13/17 09:06 AM



yep, well, that is the thing about the democratic republic, the people get to VOTE,,,


they do in syria as well, but the democrats were trying to force Assad out... why is that?

I can never understand why, you think they would have learned by the history of the last 30 years. those kind of people need unfortunately to be controlled /lead by that kind of leader!
Libya was the same now look at it.
Although I think the underlying reason was more to do with Lockerbie and gadaffi not doing what they wanted.


i personally feel the democrats have a plan... not sure what exactly it is yet, but it will backfire when the muslims don't need them anymore...

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Sun 08/13/17 09:08 AM


The left trying to save the values of the modern societies (social justice, equality, freedom...)? slaphead


that's why liberals, workers and low-income proletariat vote for left parties, or not?


yes, like they voted for in Venezuela and got something else.
That seems to be a repeating pattern with leftist.

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Sun 08/13/17 09:15 AM



The left trying to save the values of the modern societies (social justice, equality, freedom...)? slaphead


that's why liberals, workers and low-income proletariat vote for left parties, or not?


yes, like they voted for in Venezuela and got something else.
That seems to be a repeating pattern with leftist.



the old socialist plan comes to mind...

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Sun 08/13/17 09:31 AM




The left trying to save the values of the modern societies (social justice, equality, freedom...)? slaphead


that's why liberals, workers and low-income proletariat vote for left parties, or not?


yes, like they voted for in Venezuela and got something else.
That seems to be a repeating pattern with leftist.



the old socialist plan comes to mind...


Yea, bait and switch laugh

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Sun 08/13/17 09:37 AM



The left trying to save the values of the modern societies (social justice, equality, freedom...)? slaphead


that's why liberals, workers and low-income proletariat vote for left parties, or not?


yes, like they voted for in Venezuela and got something else.
That seems to be a repeating pattern with leftist.


yet millions of Venezuelans still support the Bolivarian government, the vast majority of them belong to the poorest Venezuelans, due to the generous social programs that were funded mainly by exporting oil, but with the dropping of oil prices, it all reached a dead end.
I'm not defending the policies of this government, as I know personally someone who immigrated to Venezuela long ago and established successful businesses there, he is almost broke now and wishes to wake up the next day to find that Mr Madoro is gone.
but as I said before, leftists are supported by people, we can't just ignore that.

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Sun 08/13/17 10:29 AM



yep, well, that is the thing about the democratic republic, the people get to VOTE,,,


they do in syria as well, but the democrats were trying to force Assad out... why is that?

I can never understand why, you think they would have learned by the history of the last 30 years. those kind of people need unfortunately to be controlled /lead by that kind of leader!


This statement has been repeatedly said even here, I find it tough and prefer to say that we need a social/intellectual revolution before starting a political one.. some Renaissance that installs real secularism in the Middle East, what happened in Syria was meant to establish democracy but because of many factors, and at first the religious nature of the community, this uprising turned quickly to a civil war between the religious rebels who wanted to establish an Islamic state and the dictator government that wanted to defend its presence...this democratic goal was forgotten quickly, the term "democracy" was even rejected by many of the Islamic opposition organisations that considered it as a part of the "infidel Western influence"!

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Sun 08/13/17 10:38 AM


National Socialism was/Is about as Leftist as one can get!



Leftism doesn't only have an economic dimension, the Nazi party was a unique combination of social and national ideology, it can't be considered leftist at all, it considered communism (or the Jewish Bolshevism! as it was considered by Nazis) as an enemy, the Nazi ideologies aren't liberal at all, they can be easily considered conservative due to many reasons like the attitude towards family, homosexuality, race, minorities, abortion and many others.

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Sun 08/13/17 10:40 AM




yep, well, that is the thing about the democratic republic, the people get to VOTE,,,


they do in syria as well, but the democrats were trying to force Assad out... why is that?

I can never understand why, you think they would have learned by the history of the last 30 years. those kind of people need unfortunately to be controlled /lead by that kind of leader!


This statement has been repeatedly said even here, I find it tough and prefer to say that we need a social/intellectual revolution before starting a political one.. some Renaissance that installs real secularism in the Middle East, what happened in Syria was meant to establish democracy but because of many factors, and at first the religious nature of the community, this uprising turned quickly to a civil war between the religious rebels who wanted to establish an Islamic state and the dictator government that wanted to defend its presence...this democratic goal was forgotten quickly, the term "democracy" was even rejected by many of the Islamic opposition organisations that considered it as a part of the "infidel Western influence"!

Wasn't Assad democratically elected?

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Sun 08/13/17 10:51 AM





yep, well, that is the thing about the democratic republic, the people get to VOTE,,,


they do in syria as well, but the democrats were trying to force Assad out... why is that?

I can never understand why, you think they would have learned by the history of the last 30 years. those kind of people need unfortunately to be controlled /lead by that kind of leader!


This statement has been repeatedly said even here, I find it tough and prefer to say that we need a social/intellectual revolution before starting a political one.. some Renaissance that installs real secularism in the Middle East, what happened in Syria was meant to establish democracy but because of many factors, and at first the religious nature of the community, this uprising turned quickly to a civil war between the religious rebels who wanted to establish an Islamic state and the dictator government that wanted to defend its presence...this democratic goal was forgotten quickly, the term "democracy" was even rejected by many of the Islamic opposition organisations that considered it as a part of the "infidel Western influence"!

Wasn't Assad democratically elected?

no, it was a nominal referendum that was prepared by his late father "Hafez Al Assad" before he died, there were no candidates, only him, the Syrian constitution was changed in minutes to suit the young president ( he was 34 while the Constitution says that the president should be at least 40)

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Sun 08/13/17 10:58 AM
but I agree that forcing policies by other countries made things worse, it is really complicated to decide where to stand in Syria, but I will never stand with or support a religious regime, you have either a political or a religious dictatorship, and I believe that the latter is much worse than the former!

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Sun 08/13/17 11:12 AM
a setup from the start by the City-Authorities!

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Sun 08/13/17 12:02 PM




The left trying to save the values of the modern societies (social justice, equality, freedom...)? slaphead


that's why liberals, workers and low-income proletariat vote for left parties, or not?


yes, like they voted for in Venezuela and got something else.
That seems to be a repeating pattern with leftist.


yet millions of Venezuelans still support the Bolivarian government, the vast majority of them belong to the poorest Venezuelans, due to the generous social programs that were funded mainly by exporting oil, but with the dropping of oil prices, it all reached a dead end.
I'm not defending the policies of this government, as I know personally someone who immigrated to Venezuela long ago and established successful businesses there, he is almost broke now and wishes to wake up the next day to find that Mr Madoro is gone.
but as I said before, leftists are supported by people, we can't just ignore that.


Better check that hat size, might be a bit too tight for you.
laugh

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Sun 08/13/17 12:59 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 08/13/17 01:03 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/draft-who-is-behind-the-police-stepping-aside-and-ignoring-facist-antifa-violence-at-events-around-the-us/

Who is Behind the Police Decision to Ignore and Allow Facist Antifa Violence at Events Around the US?

Jim Hoft Aug 13th, 2017 8:51 am Leave a Comment

Guest post by Joe Hoft
For over a year at nearly every event NOT sponsored by Leftist Democrat and Black Lives Matter groups, the Police have stepped aside and allowed horrendous acts of criminal violence against event participants while rarely arresting anyone committing these heinous acts.
These violent groups, like Facist Antifa, are now inciting murder at these events. Who is allowing this to happen? Will the FBI please investigate these groups and who is ordering the police to allow them to commit violence?

The police also were told to stand down last year in Baltimore when Black Lives Matter rioters tore down that American city.

Yesterday at a white supremacist event in Charlottesville, Virginia, people were killed. Violent fascist rioters like Antifa were there en masse to shut down the event.
(We at the GWP in no way support white fascists but we also do not support or condone violent acts against these same individuals.)

One bold reporter by the name of Faith Goldy was neary five feet from where individuals were mowed down after being run over by a lunatic in a car. Goldy noted that the police were no where to be found when the incident occurred.

The white supremacists were told to disband and discontinue their protest but the Black Lives Matter and Antifa thugs were allowed to continue their protesting.

Antifa and Black Lives Matter were still protesting when the car appeared out of nowhere and ran over people.

How many more people will be criminally attacked and murdered before the Police stop in to arrest these rioters like racist Black Lives Matter and Antifa fascists? Who is behind these violent criminal acts? The FBI needs to look into this!

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Sun 08/13/17 07:59 PM
What about the other people who like the rebel flag and the historic statues. People who aren't white supremacy or KKK. Like us old hippies.

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Sun 08/13/17 08:10 PM
Edited by markc48 on Sun 08/13/17 08:18 PM

a setup from the start by the City-Authorities!
Or a Leak in the administration.
They could have just tore it down. And put a black panther there and nobody would have known. At the rate this is going 10 more years and it will be White lives Matter.

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Sun 08/13/17 10:20 PM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/draft-who-is-behind-the-police-stepping-aside-and-ignoring-facist-antifa-violence-at-events-around-the-us/

Who is Behind the Police Decision to Ignore and Allow Facist Antifa Violence at Events Around the US?

Jim Hoft Aug 13th, 2017 8:51 am Leave a Comment

Guest post by Joe Hoft
For over a year at nearly every event NOT sponsored by Leftist Democrat and Black Lives Matter groups, the Police have stepped aside and allowed horrendous acts of criminal violence against event participants while rarely arresting anyone committing these heinous acts.
These violent groups, like Facist Antifa, are now inciting murder at these events. Who is allowing this to happen? Will the FBI please investigate these groups and who is ordering the police to allow them to commit violence?

The police also were told to stand down last year in Baltimore when Black Lives Matter rioters tore down that American city.

Yesterday at a white supremacist event in Charlottesville, Virginia, people were killed. Violent fascist rioters like Antifa were there en masse to shut down the event.
(We at the GWP in no way support white fascists but we also do not support or condone violent acts against these same individuals.)

One bold reporter by the name of Faith Goldy was neary five feet from where individuals were mowed down after being run over by a lunatic in a car. Goldy noted that the police were no where to be found when the incident occurred.

The white supremacists were told to disband and discontinue their protest but the Black Lives Matter and Antifa thugs were allowed to continue their protesting.

Antifa and Black Lives Matter were still protesting when the car appeared out of nowhere and ran over people.

How many more people will be criminally attacked and murdered before the Police stop in to arrest these rioters like racist Black Lives Matter and Antifa fascists? Who is behind these violent criminal acts? The FBI needs to look into this!



violent criminals are behind violent criminal acts and
Im sure police arrest whatever violent people they can catch,, regardless of what t shirts they wear or movement they claim,,, a no brainer really,,,

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Sun 08/13/17 10:22 PM

What about the other people who like the rebel flag and the historic statues. People who aren't white supremacy or KKK. Like us old hippies.


the thing about being in america is we can 'like' whatever we want and even publicly voice grievances through peaceful protest,, we just cannot incite to violence or cause physical harm to others...

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Mon 08/14/17 12:21 AM


we live in an information age. I believe the media is who incites.

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Mon 08/14/17 02:02 AM
Unite the Right had a permit to assemble, Antifa showed up and violence ensued. Even before all the facts are in, the presumption is that UTR was attacked. There's no issue here of color, just of law. If the local quilting bee had a permitted event there and then clashed with a mob of scrapbookers who showed up to protest, same deal.

Virginia's Governor, Clinton ally and former DNC Chair Terry McAuliffe, defended keeping the police out of the fray even after violence began. Secretary of Public Safety (and Virginia Democrat Party Chair) Brian Moran said "From our plan, to ensure the safety of our citizens and property, it went extremely well."

sure Terry,it went extremely well herding a few Rightists straight into the Jaws of ANTIFA!
Just hope sometime soon,you Trash will have to answer for your Divisive Actions!