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| Topic: An accidental argument in favor of raising minimum wages | |
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mightymoe
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Sun 07/30/17 10:59 AM
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I don't know who to believe, but I hear what they are saying about Obama care and it ain't workin. Why not get the guy who wrote the ACA and have him unravel it. and then kill him. 
What has been purposely forgotten, especially by it's strongest political opponents, is that the ACA is the mess that it is precisely BECAUSE it was written to try to please Republicans and Democrats who disagreed about almost everything. Republicans and Democrats alike, purposely crippled it from the beginning, and now the Republicans are playing a game of refusing to repair or replace it, both because they have a well practiced knee jerk opposition to helping anyone who isn't rich (that's not actually an insult-accusation from me, there are complicated philosophical and historical reasons why the GOP purposely made itself this way), and because they genuinely think that by letting America and the American people suffer needlessly, they will gain more political power, and finally be able to alter the fundamental guidance of the United States in ways which they are not now openly talking about. i kinda agree with what you're saying, but i think that all the dems and repubs disagreeing is just a smokesceen to hide that fact they are lining their pockets more than they care about doing their jobs or the people who voted them in.... think about where the money goes from any ACA type plan, no matter which side it comes from... |
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Who employes people?
Rich people do mostly. Then they have management who buy cars build a house have big holidays . maybe have servants, gardeners ,drivers, nannies etc The management over see lower management who buy the same but not so expensive. Have the house painted, garden done. They employ manual workers who have a small house, holiday ,car. Everyone buys food, fuel etc The bigger the house the more maintenance needed, that employes more people. It goes from the top to the bottom so if the one above you has no money then neither will you! |
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I don't know who to believe, but I hear what they are saying about Obama care and it ain't workin. Why not get the guy who wrote the ACA and have him unravel it. and then kill him.
What has been purposely forgotten, especially by it's strongest political opponents, is that the ACA is the mess that it is precisely BECAUSE it was written to try to please Republicans and Democrats who disagreed about almost everything. Republicans and Democrats alike, purposely crippled it from the beginning, and now the Republicans are playing a game of refusing to repair or replace it, both because they have a well practiced knee jerk opposition to helping anyone who isn't rich (that's not actually an insult-accusation from me, there are complicated philosophical and historical reasons why the GOP purposely made itself this way), and because they genuinely think that by letting America and the American people suffer needlessly, they will gain more political power, and finally be able to alter the fundamental guidance of the United States in ways which they are not now openly talking about. i kinda agree with what you're saying, but i think that all the dems and repubs disagreeing is just a smokesceen to hide that fact they are lining their pockets more than they care about doing their jobs or the people who voted them in.... think about where the money goes from any ACA type plan, no matter which side it comes from... I think there's something to what you say with this, but I'd suspect that the "pocket lining" that's going on is a little more indirect. I think a fair amount of it is a smokescreen of sorts as well, but some of what they are screening off, is their own real intentions and desires. Like that the Republicans clearly (to me anyway) don't give a crap about abortion (as a party) or about reforming tort law. They pretend to, in order to get people to vote them in to do other things. Same way Democrats as a party, don't care as much about personal individual justice for all as they pretend to. It just worked for a while to get them into office so they could do other stuff. In other words, I do think some people in Congress are just there to use their position to get personally rich. I just think that's more of a number two or three on the list of corruptions. |
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Who employes people? Rich people do mostly. Then they have management who buy cars build a house have big holidays . maybe have servants, gardeners ,drivers, nannies etc The management over see lower management who buy the same but not so expensive. Have the house painted, garden done. They employ manual workers who have a small house, holiday ,car. Everyone buys food, fuel etc The bigger the house the more maintenance needed, that employes more people. It goes from the top to the bottom so if the one above you has no money then neither will you! Mmm. Yes. But this common "reasoning" relies on the idea that these rich people employ people out of the goodness of their hearts. Not because they want things done, that they don't want to do, or can't do. It's an EXCHANGE of money for goods and services, not a vending of money, or a bunch of people who really want to be valets as a personally rewarding hobby. And how many of the paid jobs are there, because someone above the person working, is profiting from the work being done? It's not the tiny minority, that's for sure. And no one sane is talking about taking ALL of the rich folks money, least of all me. All I'm pointing out, is that anyone who tells you that rich people who pay other people deserve to pay LESS than what they cost the government, as some sort of moral reward for all the people they hire , is ignoring reality. |
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Yes igor,
An example of here. Fox hunting. One party say they would ban it so some would vote for them on the strength of this! Be it fox hunting, abortion or something else trivial in the grand scheme of things who would vote on this alone on those reasons shame on them! We all know that there are a bit more important things to running a country! |
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http://mises.org/library/unseen-costs-minimum-wage
<snip>Finally, if raising minimum wages does increase the number of jobs in these states, why don’t their governors and legislatures raise the minimum wage to $100 to $1,000 dollars per hour? To ask the question is to answer it as even these interventionist politicians know that no one besides government bureaucrats would still be employed under such as system. Any first-year economics student knows that, all things being equal, as the price of an item increases, demand for that item decreases accordingly. "Wage rates are labor’s price. As wage rates increase, employers demand for workers will decrease." By increasing the minimum wage, politicians in these thirteen states are condemning many of their citizens to unemployment.<snip> |
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"Workers of the world unite". 
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