Do you all sense something underhanded is going on with this election process?, yes....or no, if yes please elaborate.

Well, we now know that members of the DNC tried to sabotage Bernie Sanders' chance to become the Democratic Party's presidential nominee.

no I feel every election year people who are disgruntled with how its going or how government is functioning make allegations that something is therefore 'rigged'

rarely do people make that accusation when things are going 'their way'


we get what the delegates,, and by extension what we,,,,elect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRtbIQ1kTw

The elections have been rigged since the founding of political parties.

The best evidence is the network bias of the corporate sponsored media to a 2 party system. They own the media networks, control the debates and exposures, the polling stats, and what you hear or see about a candidate in the media to base an opinion on.

With citizens united and unlimited cash flowing to the campaigns from corporations controlling the narrative for one candidate or the other of the two parties, and a third party unable to play in this over priced political arena, it can't be considered anything but rigged!

Sure, we are given a choice, but our choices are selected for us. One party or the other, never allowing anyone outside the 2 party system the ability to be seen or heard (due to the price of admission to media coverage).

Case in point..... look what the DNC did to Sanders (an Independent running on the Dem ticket) and the RNC did to Ron Paul (a Libratarian running on the Rep ticket)

And then there are the electoral colleges..... either Rep or Dem.... but they are non-partisan

And they wonder why people stay home

Whoever spends the most money, advertises the most, and whoever is most seen on t.v., is pretty much a guaranteed indicator of who will win.

Advertising works. Just like with children, repetition works.
How do you think the Kardashians became celebrities.

If you're asking if I think there is some sort of secret organization that can control everything, already has a beard president in mind, and is able to rig everything to such a degree that they can make it look plausible there is no rigging, then no, I don't think something that underhanded is going on.


I think there is just perpetuation or exacerbation of flaws in the system.
At best it's taking advantage of basic human nature.

ALL GOVERNMENTS are setup to use the Common Folks for the benefit of the Powerful People.

All the cr_p that continually goes on just keeps people from seeing the real issues.

Oh yeah........ Yes, the elections are rigged against the Common Folks.

Amazingly, it looks like everyone is (often ironically) on the same page with this.

Yes, everything looks more or less "rigged," but not unusually so.

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DC Leak Exposes Top Clinton Donor George Soros Manipulating Elections

Billionaire investor buys access to high-powered Democrats

One of Hillary Clinton’s biggest donors, billionaire George Soros, has been exposed in a massive hack for manipulating elections in Europe via his non-government organizations. DC Leaks revealed more than 2,500 files from Soros’ groups, most notably the Open Society Foundations. The leaks are especially concerning for Americans given Soros’ close relationship to former Secretary of State Clinton.

So far this election cycle, the billionaire investor has donated over $25 million to Clinton and other Democratic Party members, with more expected before November. Soros has also funded Media Matters, founded by David Brock, who operates on behalf of Clinton in several dubious capacities—like running the Correct the Record SuperPAC, which hires Internet trolls to spread pro-Clinton ideologies on the Internet.

Soros has been a major donor to the think tank Center for American Progress, founded by Clinton’s campaign manager, John Podesta. The organization also runs the pro-Clinton media outlet ThinkProgress.com.

The troubling ties between Soros and Clinton extend to her tenure as secretary of state. An email released by Wikileaks revealed that, in 2011, Soros instructed Clinton to intervene in Albanian politics—advice she acted upon. Soros directly benefited from Clinton pushing for the 2011 Panama Free Trade Agreement, as several of Soros’ holdings were implicated in the recent scandal there. That deal opened up the country for billionaires and millionaires to exploit as a tax haven, which was exposed in the Panama Papers leak earlier this year.

Soros developed an ominous reputation as a greedy billionaire in the early 1990s, when he single-handedly caused an economic crisis in England by betting against the British Pound. The investment, dubbed “Black Wednesday,” made Soros over a billion dollars at the expense of Britain’s economy. In 1998, Malaysia’s prime minister attacked Soros for inciting negative influences on the country’s economy through currency speculation.

Clinton’s running mate, Sen. Tim Kaine, reportedly had a private dinner with Soros’ son Alexander recently, who has also been known to have unfettered access to high-profile Democrats.

In their coronation of Clinton, the Democratic Party maintained that the massive amounts of money being pumped into their candidate’s campaign wouldn’t affect her at all. The connection between Clinton, who has embraced SuperPACs and large donations from wealthy and corporate donors, and the influence these donations have provided them in the State Department are well documented.

If elected president, Clinton will continue exchanging favors and access to her big-ticket donors, as she courts their interests over those of everyday Americans. Soros’ access to Clinton and the Democratic Party leadership is well documented, as are his interests and concerns receiving special consideration. Democracy has devolved into a system that works only for millionaires and billionaires with the money and desire to assert their own voices in government with big campaign contributions, simultaneously silencing the voice of every American voter.

http://observer.com/2016/08/dc-leak-exposes-top-clinton-donor-george-soros-manipulating-elections/

I think whatever happens both sides can play the same game against each other.

And therein lies the problem. The people are rarely part of the equation until it comes to "funding" or a drone/worker force is needed.

Your vote and voice mean little since Citizens United. Long before that actually.... say since 1913 and the Fed Reserve act.

The banks control everything at the top by controlling the money supply, even governments. Govt policies control corporations with lobbyists as middle/bag men delivering the payoffs, the corporations control the people thru the policies and regulations those payoffs buy (pay to play).

The slave or worker force is directed by the sponsored media in every aspect of their lives and the govt registers, regulates, educates, polices, spies on/tracks, and collects the payments thru its many alphabet agencies.

It's funny how the govt always names a program with a feel good title and they always seem to do/be just the opposite

The machine we call govt has over the years done its best to convinced us we are free within our cages

http://soros.dcleaks.com/

use the Top-bar on the Site to view the E-mails!

And somehow this going to miraculously change?

Have you noticed how hard both parties are trying to bring down Trump?

Can't have the peasants waking up to the truth!

The media narrative is how bad his policies are, his success makes him bad for the office because he uses the system "they" have created, and his speech and ideas are not PC.

Hell, isn't that what this election is about..... changing a corrupt and broken political and social system?

If you can't stop the message, stop the messenger!

And then what? A JFK situation? Not saying I am voting for Hillary because my dog is better. But what makes you think Trump will be there long. You don't think they are going to Assassinate him. Okay.

No. I think Oblowme will declare martial law over racial violence (he's already blown his chance to use ISIS with his JV team comments) and suspend elections

In truth, I don't put anything past the people behind the scene running things.... whoever "they" are.... but I know they don't represent any government of, for, or by the people and haven't for a very long time.

As usual, the next POTUS will be whoever is chosen for us.

We elect our senators and congressmen/women, they buy them off or threaten them thru blackmail, and the cycle continues.

Knick knack paddy whack.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fofy1LEFOxk

Taken from Woodrow Wilson's book "The New Freedom" chapter VIII,
MONOPOLY, OR OPPORTUNITY?

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14811/14811-h/14811-h.htm

There is another matter to which we must direct our attention, whether we like or not. I do not take these things into my mouth because they please my palate; I do not talk about them because I want to attack anybody or upset anything; I talk about them because only by open speech about them among ourselves shall we learn what the facts are.

You will notice from a recent investigation that things like this take place: A certain bank invests in certain securities. It appears from evidence that the handling of these securities was very intimately connected with the maintenance of the price of a particular commodity. Nobody ought, and in normal circumstances nobody would, for a moment think of suspecting the managers of a great bank of making such an investment in order to help those who were conducting a particular business in the United States maintain the price of their commodity; but the circumstances are not normal. It is beginning to be believed that in the big business of this country nothing is disconnected from anything else. I do not mean in this particular instance to which I have referred, and I do not have in mind to draw any inference at all, for that would be unjust; but take any investment of an industrial character by a great bank. It is known that the directorate of that bank interlaces in personnel with ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, sixty boards of directors of all sorts, of railroads which handle commodities, of great groups of manufacturers which manufacture commodities, and of great merchants who distribute commodities; and the result is that every great bank is under suspicion with regard to the motive of its investments. It is at least considered possible that it is playing the game of somebody who has nothing to do with banking, but with whom some of its directors are connected and joined in interest. The ground of unrest and uneasiness, in short, on the part of the public at large, is the growing knowledge that many large undertakings are interlaced with one another, are indistinguishable from one another in personnel.

Therefore, when a small group of men approach Congress in order to induce the committee concerned to concur in certain legislation, nobody knows the ramifications of the interests which those men represent; there seems no frank and open action of public opinion in public counsel, but every man is suspected of representing some other man and it is not known where his connections begin or end.

I am one of those who have been so fortunately circumstanced that I have had the opportunity to study the way in which these things come about in complete disconnection from them, and I do not suspect that any man has deliberately planned the system. I am not so uninstructed and misinformed as to suppose that there is a deliberate and malevolent combination somewhere to dominate the government of the United States. I merely say that, by certain processes, now well known, and perhaps natural in themselves, there has come about an extraordinary and very sinister concentration in the control of business in the country.

However it has come about, it is more important still that the control of credit also has become dangerously centralized. It is the mere truth to say that the financial resources of the country are not at the command of those who do not submit to the direction and domination of small groups of capitalists who wish to keep the economic development of the country under their own eye and guidance. The great monopoly in this country is the monopoly of big credits. So long as that exists, our old variety and freedom and individual energy of development are out of the question. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men who, even if their action be honest and intended for the public interest, are necessarily concentrated upon the great undertakings in which their own money is involved and who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom. This is the greatest question of all, and to this statesmen must address themselves with an earnest determination to serve the long future and the true liberties of men.

This money trust, or, as it should be more properly called, this credit trust, of which Congress has begun an investigation, is no myth; it is no imaginary thing. It is not an ordinary trust like another. It doesn't do business every day. It does business only when there is occasion to do business. You can sometimes do something large when it isn't watching, but when it is watching, you can't do much. And I have seen men squeezed by it; I have seen men who, as they themselves expressed it, were put "out of business by Wall Street," because Wall Street found them inconvenient and didn't want their competition.

Let me say again that I am not impugning the motives of the men in Wall Street. They may think that that is the best way to create prosperity for the country. When you have got the market in your hand, does honesty oblige you to turn the palm upside down and empty it? If you have got the market in your hand and believe that you understand the interest of the country better than anybody else, is it patriotic to let it go? I can imagine them using this argument to themselves.

The dominating danger in this land is not the existence of great individual combinations,—that is dangerous enough in all conscience,—but the combination of the combinations,—of the railways, the manufacturing enterprises, the great mining projects, the great enterprises for the development of the natural water-powers of the country, threaded together in the personnel of a series of boards of directors into a "community of interest" more formidable than any conceivable single combination that dare appear in the open.

The organization of business has become more centralized, vastly more centralized, than the political organization of the country itself. Corporations have come to cover greater areas than states; have come to live under a greater variety of laws than the citizen himself, have excelled states in their budgets and loomed bigger than whole commonwealths in their influence over the lives and fortunes of entire communities of men. Centralized business has built up vast structures of organization and equipment which overtop all states and seem to have no match or competitor except the federal government itself.

What we have got to do,—and it is a colossal task not to be undertaken with a light head or without judgment,—what we have got to do is to disentangle this colossal "community of interest." No matter how we may purpose dealing with a single combination in restraint of trade, you will agree with me in this, that no single, avowed, combination is big enough for the United States to be afraid of; but when all the combinations are combined and this final combination is not disclosed by any process of incorporation or law, but is merely an identity of personnel, or of interest, then there is something that even the government of the nation itself might come to fear,—something for the law to pull apart, and gently, but firmly and persistently, dissect.

As an extension of my above statement this just came out...

This Poll Left The Establishment At A Loss For Words

The establishment — both Republican and Democrat — is trying to bury Donald Trump’s campaign.

They have cited recent polls that show Hillary Clinton’s lead over Donald Trump as evidence the election is over.

But a new poll shows Trump gaining ground, and the establishment isn’t sure how to respond.

http://www.americanpatriotdaily.com/latest/this-poll-left-the-establishment-at-a-loss-for-words/

..all governments are crooked...the rich elitists have been playing the people for as long as governments have existed...people think they matter but we don't...leaders love their money...the more I research the past...it is obvious they are picked and groomed long before their term...Hillary is the chosen one..Trump spiked the punch..lol.. I don't think the elitists saw him coming...but he made the election...opened some eyes..sadly I know Hillary will win...it's the plan...but with any hope...maybe we the people will rise against the machine after she's crowned...

Trump is part of the 'elitists' who have NEVER represented 'peasants'