NSA Whistleblower: Agency Has Hillary's Deleted Emails

Hillary Clinton claims that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee's emails to help Donald Trump in the 2016 race, but a NSA whistleblower disagrees with her assertion.

Former NSA official William Binney, an architect of the agency's surveillance program, says that it is more likely that a disgruntled member of the U.S. intelligence community leaked the emails.

On "Fox and Friends" this morning, Binney said that accusing the Russians is a way of diverting attention from the actual issues that the emails bring to light.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/08/03/former-nsa-official-william-binney-dnc-email-hack-likely-wasnt-done-russia

you can bet on that!

You can bet the NSA isn't the only ones that have her emails.
Russia, China, Iran and North Korea and a half dozen independent hackers probably have them

So now we're supposed to believe a guy who engineered programs to unconstitutionally spy on respectable citizens?

If you've read any of the Binney statements you would know that the reason for his departure and then the blacklisting of him that followed it, was because of what it "became" under the control of the govt alphabet agencies and the lawyers who then interpreted the laws in a secret FISA court to fit its unlawful use as a "domestic" spying apparatus against American citizens as well and not just those of foreign sources it was intend for.

As it was written was never illegal or immoral, but that can't be said for what it became under control of the govt

Typical.... just as a the invention of an alternate power source became the A-Bomb and rocket science became nuclear missles

I don't put a lot of stock in the words spies and those who facilitate their work against the entire population of the planet.
Plus, this Beaney guy is transgressing on an oath he SWORE to uphold. In that light, he's not to be trusted or believed.
He made his bed in the Intelligence community, he should now sleep in it. At best, he's a turncoat.

So anyone who exposes the unintended or unlawful use of govt power in action or deed are the ones to be prosecuted or persecuted instead of those who commit the unlawful acts they expose?

No wonder our nation is so phucked and some (like the Clintons, Lois Lerner, the banksters who created the crash, the alphabet agencies, and the POTUS himself) think themselves above the law! With logic like that it's no wonder such criminals are never brought to justice

Some consider their oaths to the nation, its laws and Constitution, and "we the people" more binding than their oaths to a govt participating in criminal acts against it!

Thank goodness! Because our corporate controlled media has failed us by killing true journalism and replacing it with partsan propaganda which can be purchased by the highest bidder!

If they swore an OATH, YES! A man's word is his most valuable currency. Once that trust is gone, he's gone.

So you place an oath to govt over an oath to a nation, its laws and its people?

Are you a communist, socialist, or just a fascist in general under whatever banner a govt calls itself?

My USA is a Republic with its power resting in the hands of its people, NOT its govt!

When the government and its employees represents the people of a nation, an oath to government in tantamount to an oath towards its laws and its people. Unless you like anarchy.


Oh there! That was a lot of complicated words in that sentence
I'm for law and order, regardless what form of government upholds them.
Incidentally, I live under a Monarchy. I love my King my country, I support our troops and differ to our police force.

The point of a whistleblower is to expose the illegal or unlawful acts of a given group or person. It is only upon the commission of these acts that a person exposing them can gain that title.

Those acts become a breach of contract to any "oath" they may have sworn in accepting that position, therefore a whistleblower is in his right, under law, to expose them! That is abiding by their oath, not breaking it!

America was founded by such people!

A certain amount of govt is necessary to protect the rights of the people. It was never meant (in a Republic) for the govt to control. They are elected to act and fulfill the wishes and protect the rights of the "governed", NOT control them!

Within a Republic even the smallest voice has a vote, is born with certain unalienable rights, and among them are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Nowhere does it state that you swear an oath to govt! You swear to uphold the laws of the Constitution, to protect and defend them.

When govt breaks those laws it becomes the sworn duty of the governed to oppose, expose, and take any and all actions allowed under the law to correct it up to and including (sadly) rebellion or revolution against it.


The Declaration of Independence: A partial Transcription

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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An oath of office is an oath or affirmation a person takes before undertaking the duties of an office, usually a position in government or within a religious body, although such oaths are sometimes required of officers of other organizations. Such oaths are often required by the laws of the state, religious body, or other organization before the person may actually exercise the powers of the office or any religious body. It may be administered at an inauguration, coronation, enthronement, or other ceremony connected with the taking up of office itself, or it may be administered privately. In some cases it may be administered privately and then repeated during a public ceremony.

Some oaths of office are a statement of loyalty to a constitution or other legal text or to a person or other office-holder (e.g., an oath to support the constitution of the state, or of loyalty to the king). Under the laws of a state it may be considered treason or a high crime to betray a sworn oath of office.
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I don't see anywhere where it says an oath is to a govt! It actually states everything to the contrary!

But again, the USA is a Republic, NOT a Monarchy, a Democracy, or an Oligarchy

He's still a turncoat in my opinion, an opportunist who would side with whichever group serves his interest at the time. He made a career with a government spy agency and raked in the daugh for as long as it was convenient to him. Now that he feels the wind turning again his employer he goes out and speak against it like the weasel he is. He has no honor and he lies whenever it suits him.
What would make me believe his story? Nothing.

You bet,if the Russians,Chinese,etc have them,that the FBI,NSA and the other Alphabet-Agencies have them!

Over 30 years with the agency doesn't sound like someone who got out because it wasn't his cup of tea or things weren't going his way

You think being under the gun of the alphabet agencies is something anyone looks forward to? That it's some kind of profitable or retirement career change for the better?

What rock have you been living under?

seems they do too!

http://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/?q=&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0#searchresult

Court of public opinion where "maybe" starts turning into fact.

I mean

and from the article:

"We have the emails in a database!......maybe.

And

I think the Russians did it!
I think a government employee did it! My conjecture beats your conjecture because we might have some other information somewhere maybe!


The link should read "http://insider.foxgossip.com"

This is how people like Hillary get away with crap.
By trying to manipulate the story without facts, clouding the issue, playing on public opinion, putting out a whole bunch of narratives that create doubt for all narratives even the "right" one.

Get the evidence, get the emails, show a trail to where they came from, figure out who hacked the DNC or whatever, then come out and show the evidence, until then keep your mouth shut.

Squawking like hens over "likely" and "maybe's" and "probably's" offers nothing.

Or what? Some faceless internet dating forum poster is gonna try an e-scare tactic?
You do realize this same topic has been on tons of other internet forums, right? Better get busy on those with the ol "keep your mouth shut" msg...which, BTW, goes against everything an internet forum is supposed to be. To that point, maybe follow your own advice.....

Show me proof of anything that didn't begin with an opinion, a question, a supposition, or suspicion.... you can't, never will

Most definitely not while looking down YOUR opinionated nose at the world and failing to see the forest thru the trees

Ummm.. all there is to this, is that some guy said he THINKS it's PROBABLY a disgruntled NSA person?

Call us back when there's actual evidence.

they call the USA classfy document date saving computers are unbreakable evil machines.......lord~~~~~~~~how could this happening.........better to do some analyzing of the employees.............behold.......the mighty milliance truth sword will lead.........