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Edited by
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"All intents and purposes" means "no, not really, I was kidding for effect." It's either direct democracy or it isn't. You made the NON-SPECIFIC claim, that my understanding of all direct democracies was wrong, but you refuse to say how. It is not up to me to GUESS what you are referring to. It is YOUR argument, if YOU wont make it then it means that YOU are the one making spurious accusations. Therefore my argument stands. Even in direct democracy, a limited number of people are empowered to determine the course of the government. I live in a Political System that is to all intents and purposes a Direct Democracy! And all your Obfuscations won't change that! 
GOOGLE gives you 7.5 million results in less than half a second! Ought to keep you busy for a while,while I peruse the Material for the Vote on our next Referendum! seems you still are not willing to do some research,so you need to use Obfuscations! Have your way,Fellow,and good luck! You just missed an opportunity to learn a few things! Well,no skin off my Patoot! But Google is still your Friend! And stop changing your Argument as you go along! |
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Edited by
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"All intents and purposes" means "no, not really, I was kidding for effect." It's either direct democracy or it isn't. You made the NON-SPECIFIC claim, that my understanding of all direct democracies was wrong, but you refuse to say how. It is not up to me to GUESS what you are referring to. It is YOUR argument, if YOU wont make it then it means that YOU are the one making spurious accusations. Therefore my argument stands. Even in direct democracy, a limited number of people are empowered to determine the course of the government. I live in a Political System that is to all intents and purposes a Direct Democracy! And all your Obfuscations won't change that!
GOOGLE gives you 7.5 million results in less than half a second! Ought to keep you busy for a while,while I peruse the Material for the Vote on our next Referendum! seems you still are not willing to do some research,so you need to use Obfuscations! Have your way,Fellow,and good luck! You just missed an opportunity to learn a few things! Well,no skin off my Patoot! But Google is still your Friend! And stop changing your Argument as you go along! You still refuse to specify anything which can BE researched. And I don't have to change my argument, because you haven't made one for anyone to respond to. And you are still playing the game of hinting at insults, to avoid answering any arguments or questions. |
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"All intents and purposes" means "no, not really, I was kidding for effect." It's either direct democracy or it isn't. You made the NON-SPECIFIC claim, that my understanding of all direct democracies was wrong, but you refuse to say how. It is not up to me to GUESS what you are referring to. It is YOUR argument, if YOU wont make it then it means that YOU are the one making spurious accusations. Therefore my argument stands. Even in direct democracy, a limited number of people are empowered to determine the course of the government. I live in a Political System that is to all intents and purposes a Direct Democracy! And all your Obfuscations won't change that!
GOOGLE gives you 7.5 million results in less than half a second! Ought to keep you busy for a while,while I peruse the Material for the Vote on our next Referendum! seems you still are not willing to do some research,so you need to use Obfuscations! Have your way,Fellow,and good luck! You just missed an opportunity to learn a few things! Well,no skin off my Patoot! But Google is still your Friend! And stop changing your Argument as you go along! You still refuse to specify anything which can BE researched. And I don't have to change my argument, because you haven't made one for anyone to respond to. And you are still playing the game of hinting at insults, to avoid answering any arguments or questions. They are the reason why I tell you to do your research on the Web! 
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"All intents and purposes" means "no, not really, I was kidding for effect." It's either direct democracy or it isn't. You made the NON-SPECIFIC claim, that my understanding of all direct democracies was wrong, but you refuse to say how. It is not up to me to GUESS what you are referring to. It is YOUR argument, if YOU wont make it then it means that YOU are the one making spurious accusations. Therefore my argument stands. Even in direct democracy, a limited number of people are empowered to determine the course of the government. I live in a Political System that is to all intents and purposes a Direct Democracy! And all your Obfuscations won't change that!
GOOGLE gives you 7.5 million results in less than half a second! Ought to keep you busy for a while,while I peruse the Material for the Vote on our next Referendum! seems you still are not willing to do some research,so you need to use Obfuscations! Have your way,Fellow,and good luck! You just missed an opportunity to learn a few things! Well,no skin off my Patoot! But Google is still your Friend! And stop changing your Argument as you go along! You still refuse to specify anything which can BE researched. And I don't have to change my argument, because you haven't made one for anyone to respond to. And you are still playing the game of hinting at insults, to avoid answering any arguments or questions. They are the reason why I tell you to do your research on the Web!
Ka- Ching Conrad 
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Let's face it, humans are not without their flaws...they are corrupt and illogical, invoking distrust among its citizens.
If the technology were in place, would you be opposed to a computer running the country? * I would guess that you're referring to Artificial Intelligence[AI]& from countless Sci-Fi tales,nothing ever ends well... 
Existential risk from artificial general intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_risk_from_artificial_general_intelligence Existential risk from artificial general intelligence is the hypothetical threat that dramatic progress in artificial intelligence (AI) could someday result in human extinction (or some other unrecoverable global catastrophe). The human race currently dominates other species because the human brain has some distinctive capabilities that the brains of other animals lack. If AI surpasses humanity in general intelligence and becomes "superintelligent", then this new superintelligence could become powerful and difficult to control. Just as the fate of the mountain gorilla depends on human goodwill, so might the fate of humanity depend on the actions of a future machine superintelligence. 
However, not only have science fiction writers communicated the potential hazards from the developement of AI but so have more than a few of the greatest minds of our century. Steven Hawking has actually been on the air in labeling the developement of artificial intelligence as one of the most greatest & immenent threats to mankind that could occur within a timeframe of the next 30 years with the techological advances that are being made. Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking Say Artificial Intelligence Represents Real Threat http://www.cio.com/article/2877482/consumer-technology/bill-gates-stephen-hawking-say-artificial-intelligence-represents-real-threat.html 
Nobel-prize winner Stephen Hawking, who spends a lot of time thinking about the shape of the universe, is also worried. "It's tempting to dismiss the notion of highly intelligent machines as mere science fiction. But this would be a mistake, and potentially our worst mistake in history," he wrote in The Independent, a British newspaper.Hawking, no technophobe, is bullish on the potential benefits of AI and machine learning, and he says AI could become "the biggest event in human history." "One can imagine such technology outsmarting financial markets, out-inventing human researchers, out-manipulating human leaders, and developing weapons we cannot even understand," Hawking wrote. "Whereas the short-term impact of AI depends on who controls it, the long-term impact depends on whether it can be controlled at all." * 
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Well, that was a disaster...How about this;...we'll get "Spock" to program the damn thing...that green blooded bloke is the most logical, almost humanoid, vulcan around.
There... that was easy. 
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Edited by
Seakolony
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Honestly absolutely not......
Flaws look at phones and PCs A virus in an ipres could shut down the whole interwork of icongress and I senators Affect the imilitary setting off all the bombs we have And affect the inational guard icops ijudicial system I supreme Court justices...... Then we are all screwed |
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Well, that was a disaster...How about this;...we'll get "Spock" to program the damn thing...that green blooded bloke is the most logical, almost humanoid, vulcan around. There... that was easy.
No Vulcan mind melds no Vulcan mind control dude |
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Well, that was a disaster...How about this;...we'll get "Spock" to program the damn thing...that green blooded bloke is the most logical, almost humanoid, vulcan around. There... that was easy.
No Vulcan mind melds no Vulcan mind control dude Ok, well...then we are stuck with the political circus
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Honestly absolutely not...... Flaws look at phones and PCs A virus in an ipres could shut down the whole interwork of icongress and I senators Would shutting down Congress really be bad?
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Honestly absolutely not...... Flaws look at phones and PCs A virus in an ipres could shut down the whole interwork of icongress and I senators Would shutting down Congress really be bad?
What does it matter we are all gonna die because of the imilitary |
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Let's face it, humans are not without their flaws...they are corrupt and illogical, invoking distrust among its citizens. If the technology were in place, would you be opposed to a computer running the country? * I would guess that you're referring to Artificial Intelligence[AI]& from countless Sci-Fi tales,nothing ever ends well...
Existential risk from artificial general intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_risk_from_artificial_general_intelligence Existential risk from artificial general intelligence is the hypothetical threat that dramatic progress in artificial intelligence (AI) could someday result in human extinction (or some other unrecoverable global catastrophe). The human race currently dominates other species because the human brain has some distinctive capabilities that the brains of other animals lack. If AI surpasses humanity in general intelligence and becomes "superintelligent", then this new superintelligence could become powerful and difficult to control. Just as the fate of the mountain gorilla depends on human goodwill, so might the fate of humanity depend on the actions of a future machine superintelligence.
However, not only have science fiction writers communicated the potential hazards from the developement of AI but so have more than a few of the greatest minds of our century. Steven Hawking has actually been on the air in labeling the developement of artificial intelligence as one of the most greatest & immenent threats to mankind that could occur within a timeframe of the next 30 years with the techological advances that are being made. Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking Say Artificial Intelligence Represents Real Threat http://www.cio.com/article/2877482/consumer-technology/bill-gates-stephen-hawking-say-artificial-intelligence-represents-real-threat.html
Nobel-prize winner Stephen Hawking, who spends a lot of time thinking about the shape of the universe, is also worried. "It's tempting to dismiss the notion of highly intelligent machines as mere science fiction. But this would be a mistake, and potentially our worst mistake in history," he wrote in The Independent, a British newspaper.Hawking, no technophobe, is bullish on the potential benefits of AI and machine learning, and he says AI could become "the biggest event in human history." "One can imagine such technology outsmarting financial markets, out-inventing human researchers, out-manipulating human leaders, and developing weapons we cannot even understand," Hawking wrote. "Whereas the short-term impact of AI depends on who controls it, the long-term impact depends on whether it can be controlled at all." *
Hawking and Gates have become quite the Miesmachers as of late! Guess it is kind of frightening to think that Windows10 could gain Consciousness!
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If the technology were in place, would you be opposed to a computer running the country?
Depends on what you mean by "running." Do you mean "keep the system as it exists in place, just replace the decision makers with computers?" Then no, because implementing laws and enforcement would require people, and no problem would be solved, nothing would change, and there wouldn't be any reasoning with the decisions or changing them. If there were, then the people in control of the machines would have ultimate power without oversight. If you wanted to create oversight of the people in control of the computers then you are just recreating a government to run things, making computers running things pointless only adding another layer of bureaucracy. Do you mean "keep the system as it is in place, just replace every politician, military, and police officer with computers and robots, without oversight or control?" Then no, that would simply turn people into slaves to an inhuman system. Do you mean "get rid of the entire government system altogether, everyone gets a computer helper from birth whose sole function is to advise you on how to find/get what you want that avoids harming other people or abusing the rights of others?" Then maybe. |
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Honestly absolutely not...... Flaws look at phones and PCs A virus in an ipres could shut down the whole interwork of icongress and I senators Would shutting down Congress really be bad?
What does it matter we are all gonna die because of the imilitary So, if there were no military, then we would be immortal? 
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Honestly absolutely not...... Flaws look at phones and PCs A virus in an ipres could shut down the whole interwork of icongress and I senators Would shutting down Congress really be bad?
What does it matter we are all gonna die because of the imilitary So, if there were no military, then we would be immortal?
Dang malmacians always book smart..... Yes but maybe not all at one time due to the virus that made them shoot off all the bombs |
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I'm beginning to realize we don't need a whole computer to run this country... just an app should do it.
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I'm beginning to realize we don't need a whole computer to run this country... just an app should do it.
The CIA got hacked what makes you think an app is any less vulnerable |
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only sometimes many humans with emotion make many great decisions everyday Id rather risk those sometimes than count on emotionless , robotic , decisions void of the capacity to be humane Let's dispel of the notion that the human doesn't know what he's doing, he knows exactly what he's doing. |
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only sometimes many humans with emotion make many great decisions everyday Id rather risk those sometimes than count on emotionless , robotic , decisions void of the capacity to be humane Let's dispel of the notion that the human doesn't know what he's doing, he knows exactly what he's doing. Yes, he does...we just want him to make decisions to benefit the colony, not his personal greed...maybe we should inject insect DNA into all politicians. 
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only sometimes many humans with emotion make many great decisions everyday Id rather risk those sometimes than count on emotionless , robotic , decisions void of the capacity to be humane Let's dispel of the notion that the human doesn't know what he's doing, he knows exactly what he's doing. Yes, he does...we just want him to make decisions to benefit the colony, not his personal greed...maybe we should inject insect DNA into all politicians.
too late,the reptiles already got there! 
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