Topic: Clinton's "wittheld" email adds fuel to controversy
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Sat 06/25/16 09:05 AM

Clinton warning about 'accessible' email adds fuel to controversy

Supporters of Hillary Clinton are bemoaning “another headache” when it comes to her private email server, with a newfound email indicating she took pains to ensure the privacy of her personal messages while serving as secretary of State.

The November 2010 email, which Clinton neglected to turn over to the State Department and The Associated Press first reported, indicates that her emails were at one point being blocked by a spam filter at the department.

Clinton's emails were then being routed through a server at her home in New York, and Huma Abedin, a top aide, suggested the then-secretary get an official department email address. Clinton responded by saying, “Let’s get separate address or device but I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible.”

The statement is one of the most direct by Clinton about why she set up the private server.

“If Donald Trump didn’t have some major problems right now, I’d be worried,” one Clinton ally said. “It basically sums up that she was aware of what was happening. It’s yet another headache for us.”

http://thehill.com/policy/284864-clinton-warning-about-accessible-email-adds-fuel-to-controversy

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Sat 06/25/16 09:18 AM

The Gaps in Hillary Clinton's State Department Calendar

The U.S. presidential candidate excluded several events during her tenure as secretary of state, according to the AP.

Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state has been an ongoing controversy in the United States. Add to that an Associated Press report published on Friday calling into question omissions in her official State Department calendar.

According to the AP, a number of events and meetings with private individuals, including chief executives of various companies, are missing:

....... The AP review of Clinton's calendar—her after-the-fact, official chronology of the events of her four-year term—identified at least 75 meetings with longtime political donors and loyalists, Clinton Foundation contributors and corporate and other outside interests that were either not recorded or listed with identifying details scrubbed. The AP found the omissions by comparing the 1,500-page document with separate planning schedules supplied to Clinton by aides in advance of each day's events. The names of at least 114 outsiders who met with Clinton were missing from her calendar, the records show.....

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/hillary-clinton-state-departement-calendar/488645/?utm_source=yahoo&yptr=yahoo

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Sat 06/25/16 09:21 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 06/25/16 09:22 AM

Clinton’s private e-mail was blocked by spam filters—so State IT turned them off

Documents recently obtained by the conservative advocacy group Judicial Watch show that in December 2010, then-US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her staff were having difficulty communicating with State Department officials by e-mail because spam filters were blocking their messages. To fix the problem, State Department IT turned the filters off—potentially exposing State's employees to phishing attacks and other malicious e-mails.

The mail problems prompted Clinton Chief of Staff Huma Abedin to suggest to Clinton, "We should talk about putting you on State e-mail or releasing your e-mail address to the department so you are not going to spam." Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


She would have been denied use of private mail server because of "security risks."

The mail filter system—Trend Micro's ScanMail for Exchange 8—was apparently causing some messages from Clinton's private server (Clintonemail.com) to not be delivered. Some were "bounced;" others were accepted by the server but were quarantined and never delivered to the recipient. According to the e-mail thread published yesterday by Judicial Watch, State's IT team turned off both spam and antivirus filters on two "bridgehead" mail relay servers while waiting for a fix from Trend Micro.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/clintons-private-e-mail-was-blocked-by-spam-filters-so-state-it-turned-them-off/

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Sat 06/25/16 09:26 AM
crooked, wherever her Skin touches her!grumble

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Sun 06/26/16 02:14 AM

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Sun 06/26/16 04:00 AM
I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.

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Sun 06/26/16 07:10 AM

I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.


Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


It goes to the charge of intent!


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Sun 06/26/16 09:06 AM
Forgive me SS for this quick hijack... Its a lazy Sunday and this is the first Clinton thread I came across lol
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The death by barbell of disgraced UN official John Ashe could become a bigger obsession for conspiracy theorists than Vince Foster’s 1993 suicide.

Ashe — who was facing trial for tax fraud — died Wednesday afternoon in his house in Westchester County. The UN said he’d had a heart attack. But the local Dobbs Ferry police said Thursday that his throat had been crushed, presumably by a barbell he dropped while pumping iron.
Ashe was due in court Monday with his Chinese businessman co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, who is charged with smuggling $4.5 million into the US since 2013 and lying that it was to buy art and casino chips.

Ng was identified in a 1998 Senate report as the source of hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally funneled through an Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie Trie, to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration. (Ng was not charged with any crime.)

Ng and Trie had visited the White House several times for Democratic fund-raising events and were photographed with then-President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton.

One source told me, “During the trial, the prosecutors would have linked Ashe to the Clinton bagman Ng. It would have been very embarrassing. His death was conveniently timed.”

http://pagesix.com/2016/06/26/disgraced-ex-un-officials-death-conveniently-timed/

And the hits just keep on coming..... this clusterfrick writes itself .
No wonder Pagliano pleaded the fifth 125 times laugh

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Sun 06/26/16 09:07 AM


I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.


Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


It goes to the charge of intent!




Yeah, as I said, the intent to keep work yahoos from invading personal emails.


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Sun 06/26/16 10:31 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 06/26/16 10:47 AM



I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.


Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


It goes to the charge of intent!




Yeah, as I said, the intent to keep work yahoos from invading personal emails.




Work yahoos? Like the IG's office and the American public?

'Every Time She Opens Her Mouth, She Lies': Judge Jeanine Blasts Hillary

video on site......

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/25/judge-jeanine-pirro-blasts-hillary-clinton-over-emails-lies-hannity

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Sun 06/26/16 10:50 AM




I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.


Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


It goes to the charge of intent!




Yeah, as I said, the intent to keep work yahoos from invading personal emails.




Work yahoos? Like the IG's office and the American public?

'Every Time She Opens Her Mouth, She Lies': Judge Jeanine Blasts Hillary

video on site......

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/25/judge-jeanine-pirro-blasts-hillary-clinton-over-emails-lies-hannity


Yes, EXACTLY those yahoos.

What, you post your personal email online for everyone to use?

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Sun 06/26/16 11:10 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 06/26/16 11:31 AM





I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.


Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


It goes to the charge of intent!




Yeah, as I said, the intent to keep work yahoos from invading personal emails.




Work yahoos? Like the IG's office and the American public?

'Every Time She Opens Her Mouth, She Lies': Judge Jeanine Blasts Hillary

video on site......

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/25/judge-jeanine-pirro-blasts-hillary-clinton-over-emails-lies-hannity


Yes, EXACTLY those yahoos.

What, you post your personal email online for everyone to use?


As an employee of the people, under regulations and security guidelines (like being subject to FOIA requests and govt records laws).... yes, as they are forced to read and sign such an agreement before/when taking office.

Because she may think herself above regulations and laws does not make it so!

With her actions, and "personal" decision to keep her correspondence "secret" from her/our own govt, and decision to choose "herself" what to deem work related or private while in the employ of the people, unlike every other govt employee "required" to follow regulations governing such acts, even the POTUS, she placed herself above the law in her arrogance!

We are supposed to take her word now as a result when even the IG and her own state dept says she lied?

Sorry! I don't think so!

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Sun 06/26/16 11:13 AM

I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.


""We should talk about putting you on State e-mail or releasing your e-mail address to the department so you are not going to spam." Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."

Hillary was supposed to turn over ALL State Department related emails, which this was. They were discussing setting up a "State e-mail"....how is this NOT State Department related?????? If they were JUST having a GENERAL discussion about setting up a "spam filter" your premise that this wasn't State Department related would be true, but that WASN'T the case.

It's ILLOGICAL to suggest that correspondence between Hillary and Huma was JUST a PERSONAL email with what they were discussing, especially since they were BOTH STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS.


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Sun 06/26/16 11:36 AM


Clinton White House was den of coke, mistresses: ex-Secret Service officer

Gary J. Byrne has devoted his life, and risked it, to serve his country — as a member of the US Air Force, a uniformed White House Secret Service officer, and a federal air marshal.

And he believes it is his patriotic duty to do anything he can to prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming president of the United States.

As someone who guarded the Oval Office during the Clinton presidency, Byrne, in an exclusive interview with The Post, tells how he witnessed “the Clinton machine leaving a wake of destruction in just about everything they do.”

He says he has also seen Hillary’s “dangerous,” abusive, paranoid behavior.

“It’s like hitting yourself with a hammer every day,” says Byrne, pounding a fist into his open hand, of the former First Lady’s explosive anger.

In his new book, “Crisis of Character: A White House Secret Service Officer Discloses His Firsthand Experience with Hillary, Bill, and How They Operate,” out Tuesday, Byrne makes no apologies for his anti-Clinton motivations.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/25/clinton-white-house-was-a-den-of-cocaine-and-mistresses-ex-secret-service-officer/

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Sun 06/26/16 12:16 PM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sun 06/26/16 12:18 PM






I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.




Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


It goes to the charge of intent!




Yeah, as I said, the intent to keep work yahoos from invading personal emails.




Work yahoos? Like the IG's office and the American public?

'Every Time She Opens Her Mouth, She Lies': Judge Jeanine Blasts Hillary

video on site......

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/25/judge-jeanine-pirro-blasts-hillary-clinton-over-emails-lies-hannity


Yes, EXACTLY those yahoos.

What, you post your personal email online for everyone to use?


As an employee of the people, under regulations and security guidelines (like being subject to FOIA requests and govt records laws).... yes, as they are forced to read and sign such an agreement before/when taking office.

Because she may think herself above regulations and laws does not make it so!

With her actions, and "personal" decision to keep her correspondence "secret" from her/our own govt, and decision to choose "herself" what to deem work related or private while in the employ of the people, unlike every other govt employee "required" to follow regulations governing such acts, even the POTUS, she placed herself above the law in her arrogance!

We are supposed to take her word now as a result when even the IG and her own state dept says she lied?

Sorry! I don't think so!


Really? Federal employees are not allowed to have personal email accounts of any kind? When was that put into place? Have any of the Republicans who also have private email been made aware of this?

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Sun 06/26/16 01:07 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 06/26/16 01:24 PM







I know you folks here want to see everything as proof that she's a demon, but I'm not seeing the problem with this.

Everyone I know, puts more protections and filters on their personal email addresses than on their work addresses. Who wants to be pummeled with spam and work idiocy when at home?

And of course, the note about setting that up, wouldn't be a work-related note, so protesting that she didn't include it in her WORK files ("with held it") makes no sense either.

But carry on, I know normal logic doesn't work in politically motivated stuff.




Clinton replied, "Let's get [a] separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal [e-mail] being accessible."


It goes to the charge of intent!




Yeah, as I said, the intent to keep work yahoos from invading personal emails.




Work yahoos? Like the IG's office and the American public?

'Every Time She Opens Her Mouth, She Lies': Judge Jeanine Blasts Hillary

video on site......

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/25/judge-jeanine-pirro-blasts-hillary-clinton-over-emails-lies-hannity


Yes, EXACTLY those yahoos.

What, you post your personal email online for everyone to use?


As an employee of the people, under regulations and security guidelines (like being subject to FOIA requests and govt records laws).... yes, as they are forced to read and sign such an agreement before/when taking office.

Because she may think herself above regulations and laws does not make it so!

With her actions, and "personal" decision to keep her correspondence "secret" from her/our own govt, and decision to choose "herself" what to deem work related or private while in the employ of the people, unlike every other govt employee "required" to follow regulations governing such acts, even the POTUS, she placed herself above the law in her arrogance!

We are supposed to take her word now as a result when even the IG and her own state dept says she lied?

Sorry! I don't think so!


Really? Federal employees are not allowed to have personal email accounts of any kind? When was that put into place? Have any of the Republicans who also have private email been made aware of this?


I didn't say that at all! Clinton could have used her private server for private email only and been fine, but she chose to use it exclusively for ALL her emails including those of her office. In doing so she made it subject to govt scrutiny and jurisdiction.

Email deletion at that point was not her choice to make! Even though it was an illegal choice in the first place to use a private server outside govt scrutiny and regulation!

That is the point of the validity of the withheld email violation

We all know she won't be charged, but not because she didn't violate regulations. It will be because an indictment would bring the POTUS into the suit since he had contact with her on it and was therefore aware of her violation of govt record keeping and security protocol practices!

.... unless you are suggesting she never had contact with the POTUS...... which has been shown she did on at least 3 occasions..... which she herself surrendered in the emails she did release

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Tue 06/28/16 08:57 PM

Hillary Clinton’s email story continues to get harder and harder to believe

On Monday night, the Associated Press published a piece noting the release of an additional 165 pages of emails Hillary Clinton sent from her private email address while serving as secretary of state. These were emails that had never been previously released and only were made public because of a court order in response to a request from a conservative group.

And yet again, the emails poke holes in Clinton's initial explanation for why she decided to exclusively use a private email server for her electronic correspondence while serving as the nation's top diplomat.

Then there's this quote from a newly released March 2009 email between Clinton and her top aide Huma Abedin about the email setup: "I have just realized I have no idea how my papers are treated at State. Who manages both my personal and official files? ... I think we need to get on this asap to be sure we know and design the system we want."

But revelations like Monday's — a chunk of previously undisclosed emails that are clearly professional in nature — lend further doubt to the story Clinton had told about why she set up a private server and how she handled it after leaving office. For a candidate already struggling to convince voters she is honest and trustworthy enough to be president, stories like this one are deeply problematic.

<full article here>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/28/hillary-clintons-email-story-continues-to-get-harder-and-harder-to-believe/

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Tue 06/28/16 10:39 PM
Edited by Valeris on Tue 06/28/16 10:41 PM
"Really? Federal employees are not allowed to have personal email accounts of any kind? When was that put into place? Have any of the Republicans who also have private email been made aware of this?"
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sun 06/26/16 01:18 PM
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Humorous:
PROOF Hillary Clinton's Emails Should Get Her Indicted
New Bombshell in the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal Investigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ED3mflp69w
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H.A.Goodman is very "Bernie or Bust" so please disregard his "delusional optimism" that Bernie will be The Democratic Nominee-That's, So Not Possible! lmao! However, Goodman does a relatively decent job in explaining the complex issues of explaining the reason for Clinton's cyber-breech in national security.

Hillary Clinton Disabled Security On Private Server After Her Emails Were Blocked by Spam Filters [Explained H.A.Goodman]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERsBEWg7n8U
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Clinton Foundation Hack Confirms FBI Will Recommend Espionage Act Indictments of Hillary Clinton [Explained H.A.Goodman]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIfDmujMiEw
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New Bombshell in the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal Investigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ED3mflp69w
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Wed 06/29/16 07:50 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 06/29/16 07:58 AM


Five key things to watch as Clinton email investigation grows

Howard Baker, then a senator from Tennessee, captured the essence of the Watergate scandal that took down the presidency of Richard M. Nixon in these simple words: “It is almost always the cover-up rather than the event that causes trouble.”

Nixon resigned 42 years ago, but Baker’s words have lived on in Washington, because the impulse to conceal a misdeed is shared by politicians of every persuasion, including Hillary Clinton, who is now running for the office Nixon vacated.

One irony has not been missed: In her first major job out of law school, Hillary Clinton joined the special committee, of which Baker was ranking minority member, investigating Nixon. And more irony: Bill Clinton, who turned that job down, would eventually become president and be impeached himself.

So universal among the powerful is this instinct to conceal a misdeed that there is a taxonomy of the process: the initial responses to an allegation, the withholding or tampering with evidence, the delayed response, the intimidation of whispers, and the damage control.

<continue to list>

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/29/five-key-things-to-watch-as-clinton-email-investigation-grows.html?hl=1&noRedirect=1

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Wed 06/29/16 08:01 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 06/29/16 08:02 AM