Topic: ‘Unity Cannot Be Imposed On Churches’
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Tue 06/14/16 10:04 AM
‘Unity cannot be imposed on churches’ – Russian Orthodox Church spokesman to RT



The landmark meeting of the heads of all Orthodox Christian churches could be postponed as five out of 14 churches have pulled out. The head of external relations at the Russian Orthodox Church, Metropolitan Hilarion, explains the situation to RT.

After decades of preparation, the historic Pan-Orthodox Council was scheduled for June 16-25 in Crete, but several churches have either refused to attend, or called for the event to be postponed, including the Antiochian, Bulgarian, Georgian and finally Russian.

“There are many problems among various Orthodox Churches… These disagreements might seem small but, for historical churches, these are important issues,” the chairman of the department of the external church relations and the permanent member of the Holy Synod of the Moscow Patriarchy, Hilarion, told RT’s Maria Finoshina.

Hilarion said he does not see current political tension in the world directly affecting the churches’ relations, which more often than not depend on ecclesial issues, although adding that it might affect some decision-making.

“One church after another declares that it is not participating, which means there will be no consensus, which means it is no longer a Pan-Orthodox Council. And we believe that the only way out of this difficult situation is to postpone the council,” Hilarion said.

He explained that the preparations for the event, which started in 1961, have focused on consensus, but with some of the 14 churches still remaining at odds over a number of issues, some “mistakes” still need to be fixed, and some of the churches’ concerns properly addressed.

“Unity is not something that can be imposed upon churches,” Hilarion said, adding that “conciliation is one of the essential marks of the church but it cannot be simply imposed by any kind of administrative decision.”

The Russian Orthodox Church remains committed to holding the Pan-Orthodox Council, he stressed.

“I do not see the current situation as catastrophic. I believe it is one of the stages of preparation for the Pan-Orthodox Council. It’s not a fault that this preparation was as smooth as we wanted it to be. And we do not believe that the whole idea of the council should be abandoned. We simply believe that it should be better prepared,” Hilarion said.

http://www.rt.com/politics/official-word/346569-pan-orthodox-council-rt/


A new clash of world powers should be prevented at all costs, Russian Orthodox Church head Patriarch Kirill said in an exclusive interview with RT America’s Ed Schultz, stressing that Russia and the US must do “everything possible” to improve relations.

Speaking to Schulz, Patriarch Kirill warned that a confrontation between “two major powers” with “immense destructive force” had the potential to devastate “the whole world,” calling for an improvement in relations between Russia and the United States as soon as possible.

Patriarch Kirill and Pope Francis met in Havana, Cuba last week, regions
the first time in that the heads of the Orthodox and Catholic Churches have sat at the same table since the two confessions split about 1,000 years ago. They signed a joint declaration afterwards, calling on world leaders to prevent Christians in the Middle East from “being completely exterminated” and to aid the refugees from those regions

http://www.rt.com/news/332448-russian-patriarch-rt-exclusive/
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Tue 06/14/16 10:07 AM
I am going to require asprin, Holy Water & an attorney!

frustrated

:angel:

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Tue 06/14/16 10:35 AM

I am going to require asprin, Holy Water & an attorney!

frustrated

:angel:


huh Why?

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Tue 06/14/16 11:27 AM


I am going to require asprin, Holy Water & an attorney!

frustrated

:angel:


huh Why?


Did you read it?
Do you have an opinion, to the OP or not?

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Tue 06/14/16 11:34 AM
I wasn't aware that the US and Russia is so close to War...

Is there something going on that the current US Administration is not telling the rest of us?

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Tue 06/14/16 12:03 PM

I wasn't aware that the US and Russia is so close to War...

Is there something going on that the current US Administration is not telling the rest of us?


Yes, both economies are broke and they are pushing for a war, like 2 infantiles in a schoolyard.

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Tue 06/14/16 12:45 PM


I am going to require asprin, Holy Water & an attorney!

frustrated

:angel:


huh Why?



It is multi - facetted
It is political (US & Russia & then other Orthodox Church/counties) & strategic (more ways than I can count) as well as individual Church ideologies. (Individual Orthodox ones as well various Catholic & various Protestant.. Too many secs, to mention or to come to an agreement).

Unification of Orthodox isn't probable. Unification of Orthodox & RC's is not possible. And unification of ALL Christianity.. Impossible.
* And the Vatican wanting that and/or Christlam is not a secret, nor will that ever happen*
Therefore I don't see any ONE answer. Other than.. everything & everybody remain as they are, completely separate entities.

Which was just reaffirmed by 5 Orthodox backing out of Pan- Orthodox. Ideologically that is the best thing . But, politically & strategically... this could be a HUGE mistake, in the face of MUTUAL enemies.

* That's all I have :wink: *

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Tue 06/14/16 08:45 PM


I wasn't aware that the US and Russia is so close to War...

Is there something going on that the current US Administration is not telling the rest of us?


Yes, both economies are broke and they are pushing for a war, like 2 infantiles in a schoolyard.


I can see a fandango with China but, Russia?

No way.