Topic: Give The Husband A Metal, Not Charges | |
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Edited by
SassyEuro2
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Fri 06/03/16 09:09 PM
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Give husband who beat would-be rapist a medal, not charges
A New York City man could be facing a manslaughter charge for defending his wife against a would-be rapist. Mamadou Diallo received a frantic call from his wife. A man identified as Earl Nash forced his way into the Diallos' apartment, according to the brave husband. The intruder took off his pants and attacked Mrs. Diallo, tearing off her clothes and telling her she was about to be raped, according to reports. Mr. Diallo told police he found his naked wife in the hallway -- and saw that Mr. Nash was trying to escape. So he grabbed a tire iron and made sure that Mr. Nash would never harm another woman again. Authorities say Nash died from severe head and body trauma. Police tell the New York Daily News the would-be rapist had 19 prior arrests -- 19. In 2003 he pleaded guilty to stabbing, beating and sexually abusing a 17 year old girl. But instead of thanking Mr. Diallo for taking a predator off the streets - the police put him in handcuffs. He's now charged with assault - and could face a manslaughter rap. A cheering crowd of friends and neighbors gathered outside Bronx Criminal Court after a judge freed him on his own recognizance. Neighbors are calling Mr. Diallo a good man - an upstanding citizen - who did what any husband would do. I hope the district attorney comes to his senses and drops all the charges. This man did the community a public service. Mr. Diallo should be hailed as a hero -- not a criminal. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/01/give-husband-who-beat-would-be-rapist-medal-not-charges.html/ * Video 01:22 * |
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An O.R. bond, is a step in the right direction.
If, the couple's story is true. The man should be treated as a hero for beating a rapist to death. |
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If the story is true
I agree with defending but not killing |
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The authorities are required to follow the law, and not the stories told by the only two living witnesses to a killing.
I hope the whole truth is exactly as described here so far, and if it is, that due process result in him being cleared. But wait for the due process. |
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Man Charged for Beating Wife’s Attempted Rapist to Death. Community Outraged.
http://controversialtimes.com/news/man-charged-for-beating-wifes-attempted-rapist-to-death-community-outraged/ |
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In Texas it is unlikely the hero would have been arrested. It is OK to use deadly force to protect the lives of others. The case would have been investigated and if the story was found to be false, the man would be arrested later.
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In most places (I don't know about Texas), you are allowed to respond however is necessary to protect yourself and your loved ones.
However, it is NOT allowed, that you go PAST the necessary action, and proceed to execute whoever threatened you. If this story is one in which the guy came home, found his wife under attack, and struck the attacker until he was no longer a threat, then he will likely be exonerated, even outside Texas. If instead, he came in, hit the attacker with the tire iron once or twice, then continued hitting him after he was down, until he was certain he was dead, then he will be found to have broken the law (again, in most places). Even in places where "Stand Your Ground" laws have been passed, if you choose to do far more than is necessary to end the threat against you, you will be subject for prosecution and punishment. The fact that we all may despise the particular criminal who was killed, and be glad he was, has nothing to do with whether or not the laws should exist as they do, and should be enforced. And this is for OUR OWN protection as a society, NOT a matter of "coddling bad guys." If an individual is allowed under the law to kill anyone who they CLAIM threatened them in some way, the door will be opened to legalized assassinations. |
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Jeepers Creepers!
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In Texas it is unlikely the hero would have been arrested. It is OK to use deadly force to protect the lives of others. The case would have been investigated and if the story was found to be false, the man would be arrested later. that's only if a life is in immediate danger, not if the criminal is running away... nobody has a right to be judge, jury and executioner... |
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Edited by
SassyEuro2
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Sun 06/05/16 12:32 PM
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Changes have been downgraded to assault
Diallo was released without bail during his arraignment late Tuesday evening. He was officially charged with second-degree assault, third-degree assault, criminal possession of a weapon, and harassment. His next court appearance is scheduled for June 27. http://www.viduba.com/video:QZFbFR1MkdUTXZkMU1GeTRWRVhXWn1TP/ * Video of confronting 1/2 naked attacker in hallway & elevator* http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/mamadou-diallo-new-york-bronx-murder-manslaughter-rape-rapist-who-is-charged-wife-immigrant-career-criminal-61-age-earl-nash-beating-sex-attack/ http://www.amny.com/news/mamadou-diallo-released-without-bail-after-bronx-attack-charges-reduced-1.11864318/ . * Some dicrepencies as too who the other woman was, who the perp also attacked in the apartment. Either the wife's sister, or her friend. The wife, also called 911, when the perp went after this other woman * |
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In Texas...
It wouldn't even have to be my life, family, or property in danger. It, could be an event at a neighbour's house/property. Neat little provision in Texas state law. We have a right to defend our neighbours too. Texas.... Is an iffy state, if it comes to charging someone who beats to death a rapist/would be rapist. Some of our county prosecutors, would criminally charge. Others, wouldn't. It really depends on where in the state. ....... On topic: The corpse's "right" to breath, not just free air, but any air, should have ceased upon his prior conviction of rape/sexual assault. The recidivism rates among rapists is too high to even think they can be rehabilitated. |
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In Texas it is unlikely the hero would have been arrested. It is OK to use deadly force to protect the lives of others. The case would have been investigated and if the story was found to be false, the man would be arrested later. that is pretty much how it works up here also.. And God help him if they find out it was a false story.. He would have the book thrown at him. |
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"Mr. Diallo told police he found his naked wife in the hallway -- and saw that Mr. Nash was trying to escape.
So he grabbed a tire iron and made sure that Mr. Nash would never harm another woman again. Authorities say Nash died from severe head and body trauma." Lets take a survey: How many people have a tire iron in the vicinity of their hallways? Maybe I'm too cynical but something doesn't seem right with this story. |
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"Mr. Diallo told police he found his naked wife in the hallway -- and saw that Mr. Nash was trying to escape. So he grabbed a tire iron and made sure that Mr. Nash would never harm another woman again. Authorities say Nash died from severe head and body trauma." Lets take a survey: How many people have a tire iron in the vicinity of their hallways? Maybe I'm too cynical but something doesn't seem right with this story. like i said before, no matter what state, the public never has a right to be judge, jury and executioner... and that is the reason why... made up stories |
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Edited by
SassyEuro2
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Sun 06/05/16 09:54 PM
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"Mr. Diallo told police he found his naked wife in the hallway -- and saw that Mr. Nash was trying to escape. So he grabbed a tire iron and made sure that Mr. Nash would never harm another woman again. Authorities say Nash died from severe head and body trauma." Lets take a survey: How many people have a tire iron in the vicinity of their hallways? Maybe I'm too cynical but something doesn't seem right with this story. The wife called him & 911 on the phone (which was late responding), neither the husband or the tire iron were in the hallway, at the time of the call. I don't remember reading where he was. But he was a truck driver for 20 years. So it is not 'suspicious' that he would have a tire iron. It does say, he heard her say, on the phone 'I need help', & then noises, so he 'picked up the tire iron'. |
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"Mr. Diallo told police he found his naked wife in the hallway -- and saw that Mr. Nash was trying to escape. So he grabbed a tire iron and made sure that Mr. Nash would never harm another woman again. Authorities say Nash died from severe head and body trauma." Lets take a survey: How many people have a tire iron in the vicinity of their hallways? Maybe I'm too cynical but something doesn't seem right with this story. The wife called him & 911 on the phone (which was late responding), neither the husband or the tire iron were in the hallway, at the time of the call. I don't remember reading where he was. But he was a truck driver for 20 years. So it is not 'suspicious' that he would have a tire iron. It does say, he heard her say, on the phone 'I need help', & then noises, so he 'picked up the tire iron'. I drove a semi for 27 years.....I never had a tire iron readily available or anywhere inside my house. I fail to see a correlation between being a truck driver and having a tire iron at the ready to beat someone. It say he saw the guy trying to escape SO he grabbed a tire iron. That indicates he DIDN'T walk in with it and that it was already there. I don't think a man who broke into the house and was about to rape her would allow her the time to make calls to both 911 and her husband. Like I said, something doesn't seem right with the story...at least how it's been outlined. |
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"Mr. Diallo told police he found his naked wife in the hallway -- and saw that Mr. Nash was trying to escape. So he grabbed a tire iron and made sure that Mr. Nash would never harm another woman again. Authorities say Nash died from severe head and body trauma." Lets take a survey: How many people have a tire iron in the vicinity of their hallways? Maybe I'm too cynical but something doesn't seem right with this story. The wife called him & 911 on the phone (which was late responding), neither the husband or the tire iron were in the hallway, at the time of the call. I don't remember reading where he was. But he was a truck driver for 20 years. So it is not 'suspicious' that he would have a tire iron. It does say, he heard her say, on the phone 'I need help', & then noises, so he 'picked up the tire iron'. I drove a semi for 27 years.....I never had a tire iron readily available or anywhere inside my house. I fail to see a correlation between being a truck driver and having a tire iron at the ready to beat someone. It say he saw the guy trying to escape SO he grabbed a tire iron. That indicates he DIDN'T walk in with it and that it was already there. I don't think a man who broke into the house and was about to rape her would allow her the time to make calls to both 911 and her husband. Like I said, something doesn't seem right with the story...at least how it's been outlined. drove a semi for 27 years.....I never had a tire iron readily available or anywhere inside my house. I fail to see a correlation between being a truck driver and having a tire iron at the ready to beat someone. Your are assuming guilt, " having a tire iron at the ready to beat someone " I am saying, it is not unusual for a trucker or a man, to have a tire iron. In a vehicle, or anywhere. Perhaps your life experience has been different than mine. Because most of the people I know have, on a conscious or unconscious level, something that they can use as a weapon, if necessary. This family lives in, a big Metropolitan city; an apartment building in the Bronx. They would be fools not to have a plan or weapon... In the vehicle, in the apartment & probably each room. Even the two small towns, I have lived in, where they don't lock their doors or cars. Almost every house had at least, two guns & usually knives.* Some were hunters, some were not * It was/is ..understood. * You play, you pay * And is not an ideological problem or controversial issue for many with a rural experience or Metropolitan, or who have been victims of crime before (or know someone who has), or live in s high crime area, or a place where the police are slow to act, or arrive in time. |
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If I were on his jury...chances are I'd say Not guilty! Especially if the perp was still in the apartment.
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i don't get where y'all are coming from on this... doesn't the constitution guarantee everyone due process? that means you can't kill someone when they are running away, no matter the crime... they might find him justified in killing the rapist, but more than likely not, because the man was not trying to kill anyone, but trying to escape...
yes, he did the community a favor by killing the loser, but the law is not on his side on this... |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Mon 06/06/16 07:32 AM
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Jury can still bring in a Not Guilty Verdict,and the Judge and Prosecution can't do a thing about it!
But we are all sitting on our Computers,guessing,yet really none of us have all the Facts of the Case to make an educated Decision about it! |
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