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SassyEuro2 Joined Wed 04/29/15 Posts: 11102	Tue 05/17/16 04:17 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links *

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 05/17/16 04:20 AM
Just read it! And Obama that Weasel is keeping back the whole Report of it! Hope next time some Iranian Sailors are in difficulties,the US-Navy won't be handling them with Velvet-Gloves like they used to! And the biggest Travesty is that Horseface apologized!

SassyEuro2 Joined Wed 04/29/15 Posts: 11102	Tue 05/17/16 04:32 AM
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Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Wed 05/18/16 07:13 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war.

Robxbox73 Joined Sun 12/27/15 Posts: 5302	Wed 05/18/16 07:36 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war. Look, the team had an engine faiure. The drifted into Iranian waters. They were captured. Video was taken. The were returned. What posses me off is that the commander of the boat was fired/decommissioned, for lack of confidence in his command. He was fired because his engines failed. I do blame our government.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 05/18/16 08:26 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war. Look, the team had an engine faiure. The drifted into Iranian waters. They were captured. Video was taken. The were returned. What posses me off is that the commander of the boat was fired/decommissioned, for lack of confidence in his command. He was fired because his engines failed. I do blame our government. Two Engine-Failures?

RebelArcher Joined Sat 08/02/14 Posts: 5247	Wed 05/18/16 08:37 AM
Couldn't have those measly ol sailors jeopardizing my Iran deal or my 'legacy'. I only tout our military when it benefits me. Hope and Change. FORWARD! Signed, Barak Obama

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 05/18/16 09:04 AM
Couldn't have those measly ol sailors jeopardizing my Iran deal or my 'legacy'. I only tout our military when it benefits me. Hope and Change. FORWARD! Signed, Barak Obama Eggsacktly!

Robxbox73 Joined Sun 12/27/15 Posts: 5302	Wed 05/18/16 09:25 AM Edited by Robxbox73 on Wed 05/18/16 09:28 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war. Look, the team had an engine faiure. The drifted into Iranian waters. They were captured. Video was taken. The were returned. What posses me off is that the commander of the boat was fired/decommissioned, for lack of confidence in his command. He was fired because his engines failed. I do blame our government. Two Engine-Failures? Yes unfortunately that's the truth. Belive me it could have been worse. Same thing happened in 1968 with N. Korea. The US Pueblo a listening post. Engines failed, we were caught in N. Korean waters. They captured our guys and tortured them for some time. They were released when they read statements against our country. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/uss-pueblo-captured&ved=0ahUKEwi5l7qAheTMAhWE24MKHUN-CMAQFgh7MBM&usg=AFQjCNENacPKSyxOlkLcsS1yC0l-Ol0Ysg&sig2=hdkKYIkS6yifqZJ14t0lyg

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Wed 05/18/16 11:26 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war. Look, the team had an engine faiure. The drifted into Iranian waters. They were captured. Video was taken. The were returned. What posses me off is that the commander of the boat was fired/decommissioned, for lack of confidence in his command. He was fired because his engines failed. I do blame our government. It doesn't matter. They took them into custody and held them at gun point, tortured them into giving confessions. All I say would qualify for us to respond with NATO. We have helped stranded Iranian craft in our waters, NOT help them at gun point, fed them ,got them medical checkups and got them back home.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Wed 05/18/16 11:28 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war. Look, the team had an engine faiure. The drifted into Iranian waters. They were captured. Video was taken. The were returned. What posses me off is that the commander of the boat was fired/decommissioned, for lack of confidence in his command. He was fired because his engines failed. I do blame our government. Two Engine-Failures? It's possible, but it led to an over reaction by the Iranians we should have dealt with appropriately!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 05/18/16 11:38 AM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war. Look, the team had an engine faiure. The drifted into Iranian waters. They were captured. Video was taken. The were returned. What posses me off is that the commander of the boat was fired/decommissioned, for lack of confidence in his command. He was fired because his engines failed. I do blame our government. Two Engine-Failures? Yes unfortunately that's the truth. Belive me it could have been worse. Same thing happened in 1968 with N. Korea. The US Pueblo a listening post. Engines failed, we were caught in N. Korean waters. They captured our guys and tortured them for some time. They were released when they read statements against our country. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/uss-pueblo-captured&ved=0ahUKEwi5l7qAheTMAhWE24MKHUN-CMAQFgh7MBM&usg=AFQjCNENacPKSyxOlkLcsS1yC0l-Ol0Ysg&sig2=hdkKYIkS6yifqZJ14t0lyg North-Korea ran the Pueblo down in International Waters! Actually an Act of War,or call it Piracy!

Robxbox73 Joined Sun 12/27/15 Posts: 5302	Wed 05/18/16 12:03 PM Edited by Robxbox73 on Wed 05/18/16 12:04 PM
freebeacon.com Congressman: Classified Details of Iran’s Treatment of U.S. Sailors Will Shock Nation Credit: Iranian state media May 16, 2016 The classified details behind Iran’s treatment of several U.S. sailors who were captured by the Islamic Republic during a tense standoff earlier this year are likely to shock the nation, according to one member of the House Armed Services Committee, who disclosed to the Washington Free Beacon that these details are currently being withheld by the Obama administration. Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.) told the Free Beacon in an interview that the Obama administration is still keeping details of the maritime incident under wraps. It could be a year or longer before the American public receives a full accounting of the incident, in which several U.S. sailors were abducted at gunpoint by the Iranian military. “I’ve had a full classified briefing” from military officials, Forbes told the Free Beacon. “It could be as long as a year before we actually get that released.” Details of the abduction are likely to start an uproar in the nation and call into question the Obama administration’s handling of the incident, which many experts say violated international and maritime law. “I think that when the details actually come out, most Americans are going to be kind of taken aback by the entire incident, both how Iran handled it and how we handled it,” Forbes disclosed. “I think that’s going to be huge cause for concern for most Americans. That’s why I’ve encouraged members of Congress to get that briefing so they do know exactly what did take place.” Forbes suggested that Iran’s treatment of the U.S. sailors—which included filming them crying and forcing them to apologize at gunpoint—may have been much worse than what has been publicly reported. “I think clearly there were violations of international and maritime law that took place here,” Forbes said. “We [the United States] did almost nothing in response, in fact, to have Secretary [of State John] Kerry actually thank them for releasing our sailors after they way they captured them, I think was a slap in the sailors’ face.” Forbes is pushing a new measure that would increase sanctions on Tehran for its treatment of the U.S. sailors in order to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive behavior. Forbes’ measure outlines a range of Iranian aggressions against U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf region. “Iranian military and paramilitary vessels have repeatedly behaved in a dangerous and unprofessional manner in close proximity to naval vessels and commercial shipping operating in internationally recognized maritime traffic lanes,” according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon. The list of provocations includes a December 2015 incident in which Iran conducted a “live firing exercise within 1,500 yards of the U.S. aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman.” Iranian military aircraft buzzed the Truman and a French aircraft carrier in the region in January. “The administration will not stand up and say this is just wrong,” Forbes said. “Instead of thanking them the administration should be standing up and saying its wrong.” Congress must take action to hold Iran accountable for its aggressive military behavior, Forbes said. “These kind of actions undermine stability in the Gulf,” he said. “And they raise the danger of inadvertent escalation.” “I think it goes without saying that if that’s the case and they won’t stop that activity, all of that should at least be considered and debated as part of any Iran sanctions bill that may come up in the future.” http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congressman-classified-details-irans-treatment-u-s-sailors-will-shock-nation/ * Embedded Links * Actually our military should stand up to Iran, not Congress. Iran couldn't give two $hits about what our Congress says. Besides the moment they attacked and captured our soldiers we could have brought NATO into it, that is an act of war. Look, the team had an engine faiure. The drifted into Iranian waters. They were captured. Video was taken. The were returned. What posses me off is that the commander of the boat was fired/decommissioned, for lack of confidence in his command. He was fired because his engines failed. I do blame our government. It doesn't matter. They took them into custody and held them at gun point, tortured them into giving confessions. All I say would qualify for us to respond with NATO. We have helped stranded Iranian craft in our waters, NOT help them at gun point, fed them ,got them medical checkups and got them back home. Look after what happened in 68, 78 in iran,,,, we shouldn't have ever been nice to these Rouge nations! I say if they wander into our water, we shave their beards, makem sing the star spangled banner. And read the bible. So this jazz about being mad actually pisses me off. These are our enimies. When we had the USSR, They tortured and killed our agents, we did the same to theirs. So why, have we become so,,,, kind?!?!?! Keep politicians out of our military!

Rock Joined Thu 10/09/08 Posts: 21258	Sun 05/22/16 02:01 AM
Just read it! And Obama that Weasel is keeping back the whole Report of it! Hope next time some Iranian Sailors are in difficulties,the US-Navy won't be handling them with Velvet-Gloves like they used to! And the biggest Travesty is that Horseface apologized! Hey now... John Kerry was the highest decorated American sailor serving north Vietnamese naval interests during the war. The biggest shame, is that Obonzo's mother didn't abort, when she had the chance.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 05/22/16 02:34 AM
Just read it! And Obama that Weasel is keeping back the whole Report of it! Hope next time some Iranian Sailors are in difficulties,the US-Navy won't be handling them with Velvet-Gloves like they used to! And the biggest Travesty is that Horseface apologized! Hey now... John Kerry was the highest decorated American sailor serving north Vietnamese naval interests during the war. The biggest shame, is that Obonzo's mother didn't abort, when she had the chance. yep,that's our John Kerry,highly decorated for getting a Hangnail in the Line Of Duty!

SassyEuro2 Joined Wed 04/29/15 Posts: 11102	Sun 05/22/16 04:50 AM
Look after what happened in 68, 78 in iran,,,, we shouldn't have ever been nice to these Rouge nations! I say if they wander into our water, we shave their beards, makem sing the star spangled banner. And read the bible. So this jazz about being mad actually pisses me off. These are our enimies. When we had the USSR, They tortured and killed our agents, we did the same to theirs. So why, have we become so,,,, kind?!?!?! Keep politicians out of our military! Powerful Drums & Monks Voice chanting http://youtu.be/2AmlL5Pr9n4/ 41:43

IgorFrankensteen Joined Thu 10/01/09 Posts: 5444	Sun 05/22/16 08:00 AM
You are ignoring the totality of all the facts, in favor of a reading of a few of them, which makes you feel deliciously righteous against people you already hated to begin with. None of the way such things have been handled, in the past or now, has been about "playing nice." Nor has it been about "playing tough," as the more righteous here would like to think it has. The only thing that has been consistent, is that all the interest groups and other participants in these events, have ALWAYS played them to try to wring every drop of political juice of the moment that they can out of them. That's what's happening in this thread. Not a "reality check." I see no appreciation of the real complexity of international relations here, no understanding of the consequences of proposed "strong" reactions. And ESPECIALLY no recognition of how over and over again in our history, the way things were portrayed to us at the time things were happening, both by the various news media, and by BOTH sides of the political spectrum here, were all false.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 05/22/16 08:37 AM
You are ignoring the totality of all the facts, in favor of a reading of a few of them, which makes you feel deliciously righteous against people you already hated to begin with. None of the way such things have been handled, in the past or now, has been about "playing nice." Nor has it been about "playing tough," as the more righteous here would like to think it has. The only thing that has been consistent, is that all the interest groups and other participants in these events, have ALWAYS played them to try to wring every drop of political juice of the moment that they can out of them. That's what's happening in this thread. Not a "reality check." I see no appreciation of the real complexity of international relations here, no understanding of the consequences of proposed "strong" reactions. And ESPECIALLY no recognition of how over and over again in our history, the way things were portrayed to us at the time things were happening, both by the various news media, and by BOTH sides of the political spectrum here, were all false. downright anti-American the way they were treated,and against the Geneva-Convention as well!

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 05/22/16 08:57 AM
You are ignoring the totality of all the facts, in favor of a reading of a few of them, which makes you feel deliciously righteous against people you already hated to begin with. None of the way such things have been handled, in the past or now, has been about "playing nice." Nor has it been about "playing tough," as the more righteous here would like to think it has. The only thing that has been consistent, is that all the interest groups and other participants in these events, have ALWAYS played them to try to wring every drop of political juice of the moment that they can out of them. That's what's happening in this thread. Not a "reality check." I see no appreciation of the real complexity of international relations here, no understanding of the consequences of proposed "strong" reactions. And ESPECIALLY no recognition of how over and over again in our history, the way things were portrayed to us at the time things were happening, both by the various news media, and by BOTH sides of the political spectrum here, were all false. downright anti-American the way they were treated,and against the Geneva-Convention as well! it's hard to do anything when ones lips are firmly planted in Irans/muslims butt... but only a few more months of obarry, and the butt kissing will stop...

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 05/22/16 09:12 AM
You are ignoring the totality of all the facts, in favor of a reading of a few of them, which makes you feel deliciously righteous against people you already hated to begin with. None of the way such things have been handled, in the past or now, has been about "playing nice." Nor has it been about "playing tough," as the more righteous here would like to think it has. The only thing that has been consistent, is that all the interest groups and other participants in these events, have ALWAYS played them to try to wring every drop of political juice of the moment that they can out of them. That's what's happening in this thread. Not a "reality check." I see no appreciation of the real complexity of international relations here, no understanding of the consequences of proposed "strong" reactions. And ESPECIALLY no recognition of how over and over again in our history, the way things were portrayed to us at the time things were happening, both by the various news media, and by BOTH sides of the political spectrum here, were all false. downright anti-American the way they were treated,and against the Geneva-Convention as well! it's hard to do anything when ones lips are firmly planted in Irans/muslims butt... but only a few more months of obarry, and the butt kissing will stop... Hopefully!