you volunteer if you want any money to buy non food items,,,lol

certainly not something one would choose to stay on for longer than necessary in any case

* Just deport welfare people to their Home (birth) States.
* Save a ton of money ! ! (Now there is "right wing" thinking) omg.





* Reeducated they would do well in Canada

If you were able to buy a $500K house and $50K vehicle you were in a financial position to save far more than $5k and/or have investments far above the asset threshold to get assistance.

If a person is "struggling" because of their irresponsible financial decisions and never saved money I have NO pity for them. If selling LUXURIOUS assets is necessary because of those decision so be it.

People like me who have lived modestly and saved money shouldn't have see our tax dollars going to those who have lived extravagantly and saved no money.

that's probably why they check assets, except for the home and a vehicle

who am I to determine how much someone should have saved or what may happen in between to absolve them of said savings

* Poor people are not like us.

* "Rowling lived on state benefits; however, she didn't qualify for state childcare because, she says, she was told she was "coping too well." In other words, she was punished for being somewhat competent, even though she had no one else to watch Jessica while she tried to work. Her mother was dead, her sister worked full-time, and she had no friends or other family in the area she had moved to to be near her sister.

* Rowling deliberately worked for less than she was worth -- so she could keep her state benefits, the only thing allowing her to survive. She says she felt like a "complete failure," and she was subjected to all sorts of judgments."

* J.K. Rowling Net Worth Today of $1 billion and happy to pay taxes.

my guess is people that have been there would be more open to giving it back themselves

unless they are hypocrites, which of course exist as well

Neither you nor I should, or can, determine how much a person should save. What happens to someone's savings or lack of savings regardless of the reason isn't my business or my concern either.

What does concern me is....why should I have to pay taxes to subsidize someone with more assets than I have? How is it fair for me to subsidize someone who lives in a house or is driving a vehicle I can't afford? Well actually I choose not to buy an expensive vehicle because I choose not to possibly put myself in a position of dependency.

If I sold my current vehicles, took my money out of the bank to buy a single luxury vehicle and squandered the rest on vacations I would qualify for assistance....just because I would I qualify it wouldn't mean I deserve assistance.

the question of 'deserving' to eat and have shelter,, is subjective

not to mention the abovementioned scenario is probably about as likely as getting hit by lightning

** People of that type of income level (paid higher tax) also may need emergency assistance.
* As I see it, your pooling money for a emergency.
* Welfare is an old idea and very faulty.
** Your City or State could just give them a bus ticket out of State.
** "Plan a riot" by cutting payments. Then save the day by finding the money. Or build a "Private" jail and (force) fill it.Private companies do donate.

Exactly!

It seems to me that a major cause of poverty among people that I've known is having an addiction to an unnecessarily high standard of living. (That, combined with a failure to plan for worst case scenarios).

I've watched people with much higher standards of living than I have who drive themselves into poverty. They face some unexpected challenge, and I suggest to them that maybe they should start making reasonable changes to become thriftier to weather the storm. They refuse. They cling to their high-consuming lifestyle. Before you know it, they are completely out of money, and talking about how the government *ought* to pay their housing costs - even though their housing costs are over twice what mine are!

These people are not incentivized to save money and plan ahead, because they just rely on government assistance.

It's a shame. Too often, government assistance weakens people, and makes them irresponsible.

I think people abuse the system whatever system we talk about

I think people hit hard times , even when they are working hard and doing their best, and shouldn't be left to be homeless or without food because of it in a culture which has so much excess

when it comes to that,, I don't assume what people have just by their appearances,, or how hard they might have it

I think also that a loss of dignity can weaken people,,,

Everyone deserves to eat because it's a need...where did I say anyone doesn't deserve to eat?
Everybody deserves shelter because it's a need....where did I say anyone doesn't deserve shelter?
A $500K house isn't needed to live anymore than lobster is needed to sustain life.



That isn't a scenario I outlined....it's MY situation.

What's next? Saying the likelihood I've face hard times is the same as the likelihood of getting his by lightning????? You know NOTHING about what I've been through and what I've overcome.

I was saying the likelihood of having a half mill home and selling it and squandering it and being qualified for assistance



is an unlikely series of events



assistance, in the form of food stamps and cash and housing, was what I referred to in my scenario about 'assistance'

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"Reeducated they would do well in Canada"
......because your left wing is doing so well?

http://youtu.be/UCJ1EJ9RdVQ/
3:30

Syrian refugees rely on food banks to survive. Is this the better life Trudeau promised?

Published on May 6, 2016

Brian Lilley reports that refugees are relying on food banks to survive and being denied language training as a result of overwhelmed agencies and providers. While many private agencies are stepping in to help, Brian says it's important for the sake of Canadians and the refugees we wanted to help, to see and admit the folly of trying to bring refugees in too quickly as the Liberals did. Watch his video for the details.

http://www.therebel.media/syrian_refugees_rely_on_food_banks_to_survive_is_this_the_better_life_trudeau_promised/

Trudeau's Liberals MUST halt plans to bring in 25,000 Syrian refugees until they can guarantee the safety of the Canadian people.

SIGN THE PETITION at RefugeePause.ca

http://therebel.media/refugeepause/

to sassyeuro2,

so.....would you say that's a problem to you or helpful in your eyes?

ErotiDough,

buddy...I love that analogy....lol

MsHarmony,

hey mommy, well I think its helpful to those individuals not moochers just a helping hand until there either able to find work and leave it or make other arrangements for means. lets not forget, some Americans think welfare in spendable.

Massagettrade

that's a very intelligent way of voicing your knowledge.

** 2Fly4Wings38 thank you. Often my name gets typed Dough, you made my day profitable :)


* I do hope that after Canada implements the Guaranteed Income (G.I.) that the U.S. recognizes the cost efficiency and benefits to all citizens.

* As a side note: Trump is listed under Canada's "Hate Crime" Law, Petition e-54. Is being investigated by Canada's Federal Lawyers as I type this.
This link is from the Government of Canada.

http://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-54

I think people should be educated upon finances, because most americans do live check to check, including myself


the issue becomes, when you have the means to live by the means you have,, and need to maintain it when your means are removed or greatly reduced


when I received it for me and one child, a got a whopping 2hundred odd for food, and 300 in cash

who would want to just maintain that standard of living?

must be emotionally ill people who prefer it to actually having something that meets the cost of living