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Topic: To Shake Or Not To Shake Hands
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Fri 04/22/16 08:36 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Fri 04/22/16 09:34 AM
Shake or leave: Swedish politician 'retires' after refusing to shake hands with female reporter. More & more cases of Muslim men stepping down from jobs, because they refuse

http://youtu.be/3MxTjYRCpvA/

http://www.zerocensorship.com/t/uncensored-islam/256941-sweden-muslim-politician-yasri-khan-quits-after-refusing-to-shake-womens-hand/

Sweden: Muslim politician Yasri Khan quits after refusing to shake women's hand

04/20/2016

A Swedish Green Party politician, who ignited a storm of controversy after refusing to shake hands with a female reporter on grounds that it violated his Muslim faith, announced on Wednesday that he was quitting politics.

Yasri Khan is the second Muslim Green Party politician to resign in acrimony this week.

During an interview with a female reporter from TV4 on Tuesday, Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting.

"People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other ... to respect each other," Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.

Khan, also the general secretary of the organization Swedish Muslims for Peace and Justice, has faced strong criticism from within his party since the incident.

"It is unacceptable. You can't have a man in the party who can't greet women in the same way you greet a man. I'm upset," Stina Bergstrom, a Green Party parliamentarian, told Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet. In an article published by the news website Nyheter24, Khan lashed out at his critics but did not specifically say why he was resigning.




* LOTS of articles & lawsuits in Sweden & Europe, as to IF this issue (shaking hands), is a rights/ discrimination issue OR if it is protocol in a Western society for business & politics, & therefore a failure to assimilate & sexism OR more Islamicification / Sharia Law
( cover up, no pork, no talking about a prophet, separate train cars etc) *



Conrad_73's photo
Fri 04/22/16 08:57 AM
Let him go back where he came from!

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Fri 04/22/16 10:26 AM
I wonder what would happen if a Christian, Jew or any non Muslim male reporter refused to shake the hand of a Muslim leader in a Muslim country.

I'm sure that would result in the non Muslim male reporter being called a bigoted infidel, deported or imprisoned for not respecting and adhering to what is customary within the Islamic culture.

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Fri 04/22/16 10:31 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Fri 04/22/16 10:32 AM
i don't like shaking anyones hand, male or female... it's a dirty, disgusting greeting that should be abolished for everyone...

but it just shows the outdated sexist ideologies the muslims use, keeping women on a lower level in the name of god...

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Fri 04/22/16 01:42 PM
I don't think we should shake hands either. Just shake our Booties.


Rock's photo
Fri 04/22/16 01:45 PM
So nice to see people adapting to the culture
of the land they're in.

slaphead



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Fri 04/22/16 05:54 PM
That these folks are quitting politics, and that green party people are speaking out against them is great news. I have nothing against Muslims. But I do have something against the many sexist muslims who are not willing to adapt to western culture. If they won't adapt to simple things like treating women with respect, what other regressive ideology are they clinging to?

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Fri 04/22/16 06:00 PM

That these folks are quitting politics, and that green party people are speaking out against them is great news. I have nothing against Muslims. But I do have something against the many sexist muslims who are not willing to adapt to western culture. If they won't adapt to simple things like treating women with respect, what other regressive ideology are they clinging to?


umm... all of them...

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Fri 04/22/16 06:13 PM


That these folks are quitting politics, and that green party people are speaking out against them is great news. I have nothing against Muslims. But I do have something against the many sexist muslims who are not willing to adapt to western culture. If they won't adapt to simple things like treating women with respect, what other regressive ideology are they clinging to?


umm... all of them...


Yeah, I think that's a legit concern. But I've known some sexist muslims who were _not_ theocratic, so... there are some muslims who are willing to give up some of the worsts aspects of their beliefs, but not other terrible aspects. Baby steps?

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Sat 04/23/16 05:20 PM



That these folks are quitting politics, and that green party people are speaking out against them is great news. I have nothing against Muslims. But I do have something against the many sexist muslims who are not willing to adapt to western culture. If they won't adapt to simple things like treating women with respect, what other regressive ideology are they clinging to?


umm... all of them...


Yeah, I think that's a legit concern. But I've known some sexist muslims who were _not_ theocratic, so... there are some muslims who are willing to give up some of the worsts aspects of their beliefs, but not other terrible aspects. Baby steps?


me, being non religious, sees fanaticism in any religion as something to be concerned about... they don't easily changed their hardened views for much of anything...

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Sat 04/23/16 06:21 PM

I wonder what would happen if a Christian, Jew or any non Muslim male reporter refused to shake the hand of a Muslim leader in a Muslim country.

I'm sure that would result in the non Muslim male reporter being called a bigoted infidel, deported or imprisoned for not respecting and adhering to what is customary within the Islamic culture.


The one thing to do with this, is to think it ALL the way through.

It's my own personal opinion, that anyone who wants to be a part of my country, must adapt TO my country.

The thing to realize in this, however, is that if it were here instead of Sweden, that it would have broader implication than Muslims shaking hands with women.

In the United States, we are all equal under the law. That is our ideal. If this had happened here, I would be glad to hear that the politician resigned, and I would hope he did so for better reasons than a fit of resentment.

But this applies as well to non-Muslims. We have to decide the same rules for everyone. So before each person comes down on one side or the other, recognize that if a hard line Christian fundamentalist decided to refuse to shake hands with a homosexual, for example, that the same judgment would have to apply. Or if an atheist refused to show equal respect for a theist, or vice versa.

Just make sure you don't ONLY cheer about this, because it was a Muslim.

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Sat 04/23/16 06:37 PM
thats good advice.
that would not have to happen in america since we reserved to ourselves the right to exercise our religion despite the state or commercial interests, or the interests of other religions or not.

In america she would have had to recognize whatever gesture was appropriate, and it ends, or shall I say it should end there.

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Sat 04/23/16 06:47 PM
In my opinion and not taking sides between two parties, refusing to shake hands does not necessarily mean a sign of disrespect.Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting. I believe it is a heartfelt gesture of recognizing her in a way he is accustomed to. In some other countries, they bow their heads or they embrace and pat each others back or kisses both cheeks or kisses the hand. "People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other ... to respect each other," this is what Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.......don't you think we all are entitled to stand by our customary gestures? Just saying.......:smile: peace be with you all:smile:

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Sat 04/23/16 07:04 PM
Edited by ErotiDoug on Sat 04/23/16 07:05 PM
* dolphin0925
* I feel covered it clear and very neatly. (twice)

smokin

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Sat 04/23/16 07:13 PM

In my opinion and not taking sides between two parties, refusing to shake hands does not necessarily mean a sign of disrespect.Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting. I believe it is a heartfelt gesture of recognizing her in a way he is accustomed to. In some other countries, they bow their heads or they embrace and pat each others back or kisses both cheeks or kisses the hand. "People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other ... to respect each other," this is what Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.......don't you think we all are entitled to stand by our customary gestures? Just saying.......:smile: peace be with you all:smile:


kinda sad that women can't understand what sexists the muslims are...flowerforyou

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Sat 04/23/16 07:42 PM


In my opinion and not taking sides between two parties, refusing to shake hands does not necessarily mean a sign of disrespect.Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting. I believe it is a heartfelt gesture of recognizing her in a way he is accustomed to. In some other countries, they bow their heads or they embrace and pat each others back or kisses both cheeks or kisses the hand. "People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other ... to respect each other," this is what Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.......don't you think we all are entitled to stand by our customary gestures? Just saying.......:smile: peace be with you all:smile:


kinda sad that women can't understand what sexists the muslims are...flowerforyou


Not all muslims are sexists,everywhere in the world not just muslims...... every individual is unique in their own ways. I have worked in Saudi Arabia, I have seen how some Arabs treat women with respect. I thought so before that they are sexists but as what I have witnessed, I was totally wrong. Not all are bad......here, there, and everywhere good and bad both exist.

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Sat 04/23/16 07:45 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sat 04/23/16 08:16 PM



In my opinion and not taking sides between two parties, refusing to shake hands does not necessarily mean a sign of disrespect.Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting. I believe it is a heartfelt gesture of recognizing her in a way he is accustomed to. In some other countries, they bow their heads or they embrace and pat each others back or kisses both cheeks or kisses the hand. "People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other ... to respect each other," this is what Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.......don't you think we all are entitled to stand by our customary gestures? Just saying.......:smile: peace be with you all:smile:


kinda sad that women can't understand what sexists the muslims are...flowerforyou




Not all muslims are sexists,everywhere in the world not just muslims...... every individual is unique in their own ways. I have worked in Saudi Arabia, I have seen how some Arabs treat women with respect. I thought so before that they are sexists but as what I have witnessed, I was totally wrong. Not all are bad......here, there, and everywhere good and bad both exist.
there's good and bad in every type people... but if a muslim follows their religion and fatwa's, they are very sexist... not Arabs, persay, but muslims...

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Sat 04/23/16 08:14 PM

* dolphin0925
* I feel covered it clear and very neatly. (twice)

smokin


laugh laugh laugh I hope I have covered it, but we are all entitled to our own opinions and beliefs....and that we should respect one another:smile:

Sorry for posting that twicelaugh net's fault it's too slow had to punch it twice.....gggrrrrlaugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 04/23/16 08:27 PM




In my opinion and not taking sides between two parties, refusing to shake hands does not necessarily mean a sign of disrespect.Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting. I believe it is a heartfelt gesture of recognizing her in a way he is accustomed to. In some other countries, they bow their heads or they embrace and pat each others back or kisses both cheeks or kisses the hand. "People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other ... to respect each other," this is what Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.......don't you think we all are entitled to stand by our customary gestures? Just saying.......:smile: peace be with you all:smile:


kinda sad that women can't understand what sexists the muslims are...flowerforyou




Not all muslims are sexists,everywhere in the world not just muslims...... every individual is unique in their own ways. I have worked in Saudi Arabia, I have seen how some Arabs treat women with respect. I thought so before that they are sexists but as what I have witnessed, I was totally wrong. Not all are bad......here, there, and everywhere good and bad both exist.
there's good and bad in every type people... but if a muslim follows their religion and fatwa's, they are very sexist... not Arabs, persay, but muslims...


I believe so that if muslims follow their religion, they are sexist to some people but come to think of it, many muslim women feel safe, loved and respected , also they are treated very well in fact with the abundance of love and all the good things in life:smile: maybe it has some advantages and disadvantages to it.... only muslims know that, we are not in their shoes:smile: we cannot judge but we are entitled to our opinion based on what we have seen around us......simply an observation,stereotyping or a misconception.....

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Sat 04/23/16 08:30 PM





In my opinion and not taking sides between two parties, refusing to shake hands does not necessarily mean a sign of disrespect.Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting. I believe it is a heartfelt gesture of recognizing her in a way he is accustomed to. In some other countries, they bow their heads or they embrace and pat each others back or kisses both cheeks or kisses the hand. "People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other ... to respect each other," this is what Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.......don't you think we all are entitled to stand by our customary gestures? Just saying.......:smile: peace be with you all:smile:


kinda sad that women can't understand what sexists the muslims are...flowerforyou




Not all muslims are sexists,everywhere in the world not just muslims...... every individual is unique in their own ways. I have worked in Saudi Arabia, I have seen how some Arabs treat women with respect. I thought so before that they are sexists but as what I have witnessed, I was totally wrong. Not all are bad......here, there, and everywhere good and bad both exist.
there's good and bad in every type people... but if a muslim follows their religion and fatwa's, they are very sexist... not Arabs, persay, but muslims...


I believe so that if muslims follow their religion, they are sexist to some people but come to think of it, many muslim women feel safe, loved and respected , also they are treated very well in fact with the abundance of love and all the good things in life:smile: maybe it has some advantages and disadvantages to it.... only muslims know that, we are not in their shoes:smile: we cannot judge but we are entitled to our opinion based on what we have seen around us......simply an observation,stereotyping or a misconception.....


sure, if you say so... go to Saudi Arabia for a few days and then tell me how not sexist they are..

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