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Topic: Idiots Guide To Bernie Sanders
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Tue 02/09/16 01:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An4d-8u-6uw

You'll feel the burn all right.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/09/16 02:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An4d-8u-6uw

You'll feel the burn all right.
laugh

mightymoe's photo
Tue 02/09/16 06:04 AM
Senator Bernie Sanders has pledged if elected president, he'd end the practice of contracting with private corrections companies to operate federal prisons set aside for non-citizens, a campaign spokesperson told The Nation. The statement came in response to an investigation by Seth Freed Wessler, published in the Feb. 15 edition of The Nation magazine. Wessler uncovered negligent medical care that likely contributed to the deaths of dozens of immigrants inside a little-known sector of the federal prison system. Hillary Clinton's campaign did not respond to a request for comment, but has previously said more she'd end private contracting for immigrant detention broadly.

In September, Sanders introduced a bill called the Justice Is Not for Sale Act to ban government contracts with private prison companies at the federal, state, and local level within three years. "[Sanders] talked about how we need to stop those contracts period, and not just for immigrant detention centers, but for prisons overall," Erika Andiola, a campaign strategist for the Sanders campaign, told The Nation. "He's just not okay having contracts with private prisons at all."

"And he's not afraid to say this, because he's never gotten money from private prisons in the past," Andiola said, in a jab at Hillary Clinton, who pledged to stop accepting money from private prison companies last October only after protests and criticism from immigration activists.

Clinton's campaign made that announcement at the same time that Clinton also pledged to end the practice of contracting with private companies to run both prisons and immigrant-detention centers. She "believes that we should not contract out this core responsibility of the federal government," Clinton campaign spokesperson Xochitl Hinojosa said last fall.

Privately run prisons and immigrant detention centers have attracted growing criticism and protest because they create a perverse financial incentive to keep people incarcerated. Indeed, the eleven privately run federal prisons that currently house almost 23,000 non-citizens are managed by the three largest corrections companies in the country, two of which are publicly traded. Privately run prisons ostensibly offer cost-cutting advantages, but Wessler's investigation raised questions about whether those savings have actually materialized and whether they come at the cost of inmate's lives.

In a review of the medical files of seventy-seven people who passed away while in custody between 1998 and the end of 2014, an independent panel of physicians found that inadequate medical care likely contributed to premature death in at least one-third of the cases.

These prisons, distinct from immigrant detention centers, are set aside specifically for deportable non-citizens who are serving criminal sentences, typically for the crime of illegally re-entering the United States after having been deported previously. They've grown in scope since the late 1990s, and despite closer public scrutiny over the private corrections landscape, this segment of the incarceration world remains largely hidden from public view.

Comment: Private prison...a place in which one of these candidates could become intimately acquainted? (Pssst...Hillary...they have your boot size!) Give the money back.

just like a liberal, worry about everyone else first then the citizens...

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/09/16 07:27 AM

Does Bernie Sanders actually have 4 more years on the planet? I hope so, but If he wins, the V/P better be on deck 24/7.. just in case.. he's a bit "long in the tooth"

One Foot In The Grave,And The Other One On A Banana-Peel?laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/09/16 07:35 AM

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Tue 02/09/16 08:24 AM


Feel The Bern! .....like a bad case of the clap....

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Tue 02/09/16 08:29 AM



Feel The Bern! .....like a bad case of the clap....

laugh

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Tue 02/09/16 08:42 AM
These poor stupid kids that follow Sanders don't even know what
Socialism or communism are even about!

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 02/09/16 09:10 AM



Feel The Bern! .....like a bad case of the clap....
:laughing:

Lpdon's photo
Tue 02/09/16 10:42 PM

These poor stupid kids that follow Sanders don't even know what
Socialism or communism are even about!



Nope, they don't/ All's they hears is "FREE STUFF!" They don't realize socialism\communism is not a form of government that actually works. Socialism is what bankrupted and brought down the Soviet Union. Every country that has gone that Socialism route has imploded. I think the only Communist government left in the world is Cuba and they are barley holding on, they are getting foreign aid to keep their government afloat.

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Wed 02/10/16 06:05 AM

These poor stupid kids that follow Sanders don't even know what
Socialism or communism are even about!



Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same thing

Adolf Hitler

There is a better chance of seeing a camel pass through the eye of a needle than of seeing a really great man 'discovered' through an election.

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf -
(Unabridged edition)

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

I begin with the young. We older ones are used up but my magnificent youngsters! Are there finer ones anywhere in the world? Look at all these men and boys! What material! With you and I, we can make a new world.

Adolf Hitler,

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future

Adolf Hitler

Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it

Adolf Hitler

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed

Adolf Hitler

Great liars are also great magicians

Adolf Hitler

The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it.

Adolf Hitler

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Wed 02/10/16 06:06 AM
Sanders' last night turns into hippie music festival
By Ariel Cohen (@arielcohen37) • 2/8/16

Video / 00:36

DURHAM, New Hampshire—While Hillary Clinton held a serious rally in down state New Hampshire with two senators and a former President Monday night, Bernie Sanders supporters gathered at the University of New Hampshire to sit on the floor and sing songs on the last night before the New Hampshire primary.

Hundreds of students filled the university's Whittemore Center to hear a series of alternative rock bands such as Young the Giant, Matt Nathanson and Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros open for Bernie Sanders. In between performances, organizers and minor celebrities such as Emily Ratajkowski praised the candidate and encouraged supporters to turn up at the polls tomorrow, reminding them that the university would run shuttles from campus to the polls.

But no band "felt the Bern" harder than Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros. Sharpe inserted Sanders' name into all of his songs and encouraged the crowd to sing along. After repeatedly professing his deep admiration for Sanders and explaining how "honored" he was to be here singing for Sanders, Sharpe jumped into the crowd.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sanders-final-rally-features-music-dancing/article/2582797?platform=hootsuite/

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Wed 02/10/16 08:02 AM
http://fee.org/articles/two-flavors-of-tyranny/


Two Flavors of Tyranny
Red? Or Brown?

Jeffrey A. Tucker

Tuesday, February 02, 2016



Maybe you have noticed the strangely implausible similarities between the cobbled-together platforms of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. On the surface, they represent opposite extremes. But in their celebration of the nation state as the people’s salvation — their burning calls to overthrow the existing elites and replace them with a more intense form of top-down rule — they have much in common.

Remember that the Nazis and Communists hated each other in the interwar period and, of course, fought each other to the bloody end in the war itself. After the Nazis lost control of the nations they conquered, the Communists swept in, trading one tyranny for another.

To imagine that these systems somehow represent polar opposites is bizarre. Both systems extolled the primacy of the state. Both practiced economic central planning. Both upheld the nation over the individual. Both created a cult of leadership. Both experiments in top-down social order ended in calamity and massive violations of human rights.

How could these two systems, so similar in operation, be so antagonistic? I guess you had to be there.

Back to the Past

Oddly, we are there now. When it comes to politics, it’s the 1930s all over again — or at least an updated version.

We are actually living through a period in which the revolutionary left and the revolutionary right have merged — fighting the establishment to make government bigger — in a way that is mostly lost on their respective supporters.

Sanders and Trump differ on particulars, though where exactly is not quite obvious. Yes, Trump is against gun control, and Sanders extols it. Sanders wants to pillage the rich, and Trump doesn’t want to be pillaged. Sanders makes a big deal about global warming, and Trump doesn’t seem to take it seriously.

But those are the tweaks and idiosyncrasies in an overarching system on which they both agree: the nation state as the central organizing unit of life itself. They have different priorities on who it should serve and where the state should expand most.

But they agree on the need to protect and enlarge state power. Neither accepts any principled limits on what the state may rightfully do to the individual. Even on big issues where one might think they disagree — healthcare, immigration, and control of lands by the federal government — their positions are largely indistinguishable.

And yet, they and their supporters loathe each other. Each considers the other an enemy to be destroyed. This is not a fight about power as such but about in whose service it will be used.

Most of their supporters don’t see it that way, of course. They imagine themselves to be rebels fighting power itself, however they want to define it: Wall Street, the party establishment, the paid-off politicians, the bureaucracy, the billionaires, the foreigners, the special interests, and so on.

But notice that neither attacks government authority as such. Both aspire to use it and grow it for their purposes.

The Marketing of Control

Insight here is provided by F.A. Hayek in The Road to Serfdom, published in 1944 (another time when such issues were pressing), clarifying that the difference here is not in substance but style.

“The conflict between the Fascist or National-Socialist and the older socialist parties must indeed very largely be regarded as the kind of conflict which is bound to arise between rival socialist factions,” he wrote. “There was no difference between them about the question of it being the will of the state which should assign to each person his proper place in society.”

What is the difference? It was a matter of the demographics of political support and the differing classes in society that expected to benefit from a total state. The old socialists sought support from within working classes and depended heavily on the support of intellectuals.

The new form of socialists were supported by the young generation, “out of that contempt for profit-making fostered by socialist teaching.” These people “spurned independent positions which involved risk, and flocked in ever-increasing numbers into salaried positions which promised security.” They were demanding a place yielding them income and power to which their training entitled them but which seemed perpetually out of reach.

Though he was talking about 1930s Europe, it seems like a good description of Sanders supporters, who overwhelmingly come from the youngest voters. Betrayed by the educational system, stuck with a bleak job outlook, burdened with debt, trapped in a broken healthcare market, feeling like the system is rigged against them, they have turned to the politician who promises heaven on earth through the pillaging of the wealthy elites.

Then you have the fascist and national socialist right, with its own forms of scapegoating and its own class appeal. This approach says: your troubles are due to the outsiders, the immigrants, the media elite, the Muslims, the intellectuals and their political correctness.

The appeal, then as now, is a new form of identity politics based on nation and race. To them, the idea of equality is a mere cover for a power grab, a subversive trick to further the interests of the elites and nefarious “others.”

Replace Failure with Failure

As Hayek reminds us, neither faction emerged in a vacuum. “Their tactics were developed in a world already dominated by socialist policy and the problems it creates.” But instead of viewing the problem as statism itself, they push for state power to be used in a different way.

The New York Times reported that: “Iowa Republican caucus-goers are deeply unhappy with how the federal government is working,” but, for some reason, many GOP voters have yet to figure out that the military, the surveillance state, and immigration control that they love are the government they claim to hate.

Last Gasps

Why pay attention to this circus at all? It’s fascinating to watch the crackup of the old failed political order. It is happening to both parties and also to the public sector they scrabble to control. Their promise of better living through bigger bureaucracies has flopped.

Meanwhile, in our daily lives, the future is with borderless distributed technologies, managed not by zero-sum elections but by the digital marketplace. This is what is turning the world upside down.

Still, the political sector continues to exist, and becomes more unstable and ridiculous by the day. You can see this as tragic and terrible, or fun and delightful. I remind myself daily to choose the latter route.

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Wed 02/10/16 08:28 AM

laugh

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Wed 02/10/16 08:31 AM

http://fee.org/articles/two-flavors-of-tyranny/


Two Flavors of Tyranny
Red? Or Brown?

Jeffrey A. Tucker

Tuesday, February 02, 2016



Maybe you have noticed the strangely implausible similarities between the cobbled-together platforms of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. On the surface, they represent opposite extremes. But in their celebration of the nation state as the people’s salvation — their burning calls to overthrow the existing elites and replace them with a more intense form of top-down rule — they have much in common.

Remember that the Nazis and Communists hated each other in the interwar period and, of course, fought each other to the bloody end in the war itself. After the Nazis lost control of the nations they conquered, the Communists swept in, trading one tyranny for another.

To imagine that these systems somehow represent polar opposites is bizarre. Both systems extolled the primacy of the state. Both practiced economic central planning. Both upheld the nation over the individual. Both created a cult of leadership. Both experiments in top-down social order ended in calamity and massive violations of human rights.

How could these two systems, so similar in operation, be so antagonistic? I guess you had to be there.

Back to the Past

Oddly, we are there now. When it comes to politics, it’s the 1930s all over again — or at least an updated version.

We are actually living through a period in which the revolutionary left and the revolutionary right have merged — fighting the establishment to make government bigger — in a way that is mostly lost on their respective supporters.

Sanders and Trump differ on particulars, though where exactly is not quite obvious. Yes, Trump is against gun control, and Sanders extols it. Sanders wants to pillage the rich, and Trump doesn’t want to be pillaged. Sanders makes a big deal about global warming, and Trump doesn’t seem to take it seriously.

But those are the tweaks and idiosyncrasies in an overarching system on which they both agree: the nation state as the central organizing unit of life itself. They have different priorities on who it should serve and where the state should expand most.

But they agree on the need to protect and enlarge state power. Neither accepts any principled limits on what the state may rightfully do to the individual. Even on big issues where one might think they disagree — healthcare, immigration, and control of lands by the federal government — their positions are largely indistinguishable.

And yet, they and their supporters loathe each other. Each considers the other an enemy to be destroyed. This is not a fight about power as such but about in whose service it will be used.

Most of their supporters don’t see it that way, of course. They imagine themselves to be rebels fighting power itself, however they want to define it: Wall Street, the party establishment, the paid-off politicians, the bureaucracy, the billionaires, the foreigners, the special interests, and so on.

But notice that neither attacks government authority as such. Both aspire to use it and grow it for their purposes.

The Marketing of Control

Insight here is provided by F.A. Hayek in The Road to Serfdom, published in 1944 (another time when such issues were pressing), clarifying that the difference here is not in substance but style.

“The conflict between the Fascist or National-Socialist and the older socialist parties must indeed very largely be regarded as the kind of conflict which is bound to arise between rival socialist factions,” he wrote. “There was no difference between them about the question of it being the will of the state which should assign to each person his proper place in society.”

What is the difference? It was a matter of the demographics of political support and the differing classes in society that expected to benefit from a total state. The old socialists sought support from within working classes and depended heavily on the support of intellectuals.

The new form of socialists were supported by the young generation, “out of that contempt for profit-making fostered by socialist teaching.” These people “spurned independent positions which involved risk, and flocked in ever-increasing numbers into salaried positions which promised security.” They were demanding a place yielding them income and power to which their training entitled them but which seemed perpetually out of reach.

Though he was talking about 1930s Europe, it seems like a good description of Sanders supporters, who overwhelmingly come from the youngest voters. Betrayed by the educational system, stuck with a bleak job outlook, burdened with debt, trapped in a broken healthcare market, feeling like the system is rigged against them, they have turned to the politician who promises heaven on earth through the pillaging of the wealthy elites.

Then you have the fascist and national socialist right, with its own forms of scapegoating and its own class appeal. This approach says: your troubles are due to the outsiders, the immigrants, the media elite, the Muslims, the intellectuals and their political correctness.

The appeal, then as now, is a new form of identity politics based on nation and race. To them, the idea of equality is a mere cover for a power grab, a subversive trick to further the interests of the elites and nefarious “others.”

Replace Failure with Failure

As Hayek reminds us, neither faction emerged in a vacuum. “Their tactics were developed in a world already dominated by socialist policy and the problems it creates.” But instead of viewing the problem as statism itself, they push for state power to be used in a different way.

The New York Times reported that: “Iowa Republican caucus-goers are deeply unhappy with how the federal government is working,” but, for some reason, many GOP voters have yet to figure out that the military, the surveillance state, and immigration control that they love are the government they claim to hate.

Last Gasps

Why pay attention to this circus at all? It’s fascinating to watch the crackup of the old failed political order. It is happening to both parties and also to the public sector they scrabble to control. Their promise of better living through bigger bureaucracies has flopped.

Meanwhile, in our daily lives, the future is with borderless distributed technologies, managed not by zero-sum elections but by the digital marketplace. This is what is turning the world upside down.

Still, the political sector continues to exist, and becomes more unstable and ridiculous by the day. You can see this as tragic and terrible, or fun and delightful. I remind myself daily to choose the latter route.



Scaring the villagers again with the truth. :thumbsup:

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 02/10/16 08:34 AM


http://fee.org/articles/two-flavors-of-tyranny/


Two Flavors of Tyranny
Red? Or Brown?

Jeffrey A. Tucker

Tuesday, February 02, 2016



Maybe you have noticed the strangely implausible similarities between the cobbled-together platforms of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. On the surface, they represent opposite extremes. But in their celebration of the nation state as the people’s salvation — their burning calls to overthrow the existing elites and replace them with a more intense form of top-down rule — they have much in common.

Remember that the Nazis and Communists hated each other in the interwar period and, of course, fought each other to the bloody end in the war itself. After the Nazis lost control of the nations they conquered, the Communists swept in, trading one tyranny for another.

To imagine that these systems somehow represent polar opposites is bizarre. Both systems extolled the primacy of the state. Both practiced economic central planning. Both upheld the nation over the individual. Both created a cult of leadership. Both experiments in top-down social order ended in calamity and massive violations of human rights.

How could these two systems, so similar in operation, be so antagonistic? I guess you had to be there.

Back to the Past

Oddly, we are there now. When it comes to politics, it’s the 1930s all over again — or at least an updated version.

We are actually living through a period in which the revolutionary left and the revolutionary right have merged — fighting the establishment to make government bigger — in a way that is mostly lost on their respective supporters.

Sanders and Trump differ on particulars, though where exactly is not quite obvious. Yes, Trump is against gun control, and Sanders extols it. Sanders wants to pillage the rich, and Trump doesn’t want to be pillaged. Sanders makes a big deal about global warming, and Trump doesn’t seem to take it seriously.

But those are the tweaks and idiosyncrasies in an overarching system on which they both agree: the nation state as the central organizing unit of life itself. They have different priorities on who it should serve and where the state should expand most.

But they agree on the need to protect and enlarge state power. Neither accepts any principled limits on what the state may rightfully do to the individual. Even on big issues where one might think they disagree — healthcare, immigration, and control of lands by the federal government — their positions are largely indistinguishable.

And yet, they and their supporters loathe each other. Each considers the other an enemy to be destroyed. This is not a fight about power as such but about in whose service it will be used.

Most of their supporters don’t see it that way, of course. They imagine themselves to be rebels fighting power itself, however they want to define it: Wall Street, the party establishment, the paid-off politicians, the bureaucracy, the billionaires, the foreigners, the special interests, and so on.

But notice that neither attacks government authority as such. Both aspire to use it and grow it for their purposes.

The Marketing of Control

Insight here is provided by F.A. Hayek in The Road to Serfdom, published in 1944 (another time when such issues were pressing), clarifying that the difference here is not in substance but style.

“The conflict between the Fascist or National-Socialist and the older socialist parties must indeed very largely be regarded as the kind of conflict which is bound to arise between rival socialist factions,” he wrote. “There was no difference between them about the question of it being the will of the state which should assign to each person his proper place in society.”

What is the difference? It was a matter of the demographics of political support and the differing classes in society that expected to benefit from a total state. The old socialists sought support from within working classes and depended heavily on the support of intellectuals.

The new form of socialists were supported by the young generation, “out of that contempt for profit-making fostered by socialist teaching.” These people “spurned independent positions which involved risk, and flocked in ever-increasing numbers into salaried positions which promised security.” They were demanding a place yielding them income and power to which their training entitled them but which seemed perpetually out of reach.

Though he was talking about 1930s Europe, it seems like a good description of Sanders supporters, who overwhelmingly come from the youngest voters. Betrayed by the educational system, stuck with a bleak job outlook, burdened with debt, trapped in a broken healthcare market, feeling like the system is rigged against them, they have turned to the politician who promises heaven on earth through the pillaging of the wealthy elites.

Then you have the fascist and national socialist right, with its own forms of scapegoating and its own class appeal. This approach says: your troubles are due to the outsiders, the immigrants, the media elite, the Muslims, the intellectuals and their political correctness.

The appeal, then as now, is a new form of identity politics based on nation and race. To them, the idea of equality is a mere cover for a power grab, a subversive trick to further the interests of the elites and nefarious “others.”

Replace Failure with Failure

As Hayek reminds us, neither faction emerged in a vacuum. “Their tactics were developed in a world already dominated by socialist policy and the problems it creates.” But instead of viewing the problem as statism itself, they push for state power to be used in a different way.

The New York Times reported that: “Iowa Republican caucus-goers are deeply unhappy with how the federal government is working,” but, for some reason, many GOP voters have yet to figure out that the military, the surveillance state, and immigration control that they love are the government they claim to hate.

Last Gasps

Why pay attention to this circus at all? It’s fascinating to watch the crackup of the old failed political order. It is happening to both parties and also to the public sector they scrabble to control. Their promise of better living through bigger bureaucracies has flopped.

Meanwhile, in our daily lives, the future is with borderless distributed technologies, managed not by zero-sum elections but by the digital marketplace. This is what is turning the world upside down.

Still, the political sector continues to exist, and becomes more unstable and ridiculous by the day. You can see this as tragic and terrible, or fun and delightful. I remind myself daily to choose the latter route.



Scaring the villagers again with the truth. :thumbsup:
bigsmile

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Wed 02/10/16 10:46 AM
Idiots Guide To Bernie Sanders

I was under the impression the "idiots guide to bernie sanders"
was simply "give me your vote, I'll give you free stuff."

mightymoe's photo
Wed 02/10/16 01:24 PM

Idiots Guide To Bernie Sanders

I was under the impression the "idiots guide to bernie sanders"
was simply "give me your vote, I'll give you free stuff."

i think obama and hillary have a copyright on that phrase...

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Wed 02/10/16 05:24 PM
Edited by alleoops on Wed 02/10/16 05:26 PM

These poor stupid kids that follow Sanders don't even know what
Socialism or communism are even about!



That just it. He appeals to the ignorant voter. Let's hope they are outnumbered...this time.

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Wed 02/10/16 11:26 PM
Edited by Valeris on Wed 02/10/16 11:35 PM


Does Bernie Sanders actually have 4 more years on the planet? I hope so, but If he wins, the V/P better be on deck 24/7.. just in case.. he's a bit "long in the tooth"

One Foot In The Grave,And The Other One On A Banana-Peel?laugh


Hmmmmmm... Do you have 4 more years on this planet? Irregardless of age, no one knows how long his/her life will be. Personally I feel that's a totally inappropriate comment that pertains to nothing but smallness of mind & character. As there appears to be quite a few crusty, cantankerous, & cognitively-challenged curmudgeons with one or both feet either in their mouths or heading for that great dirt-nap posting on this thread; that "Grave" had best be dug sizable enough for multi-occupant use!:laughing:


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