Topic: Jada Pinkett Smith
mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:06 PM










here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


so no blacks are Oscar worthy this year... thanks for clearing that up...



lol

actually worthy blacks were not included,, but its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing is awry and nooone but white performers did anything of merit,,,


nothing surprising there,,,


so by those standards, the movie "Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse" and all it's actors should win everything, since I think it should... opinions are opinions, and ours don't count here...


wrong analogy, this isn't about one persons opinion about A movie, or AN actor

this is about thousands opinions of thousands of performances,,,



but nice try,,


nice to know all you see is black and white... all that matters is what the blacks think, right? if there would have been enough votes for a nomination, then then a black would have been nominated... maybe the blacks should be better actors/ have better roles rather than blaming everything on being black...

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:10 PM
it doesn't need to be labeled one way or
another
Hmmmm....lets look at the next part of that post...

"" it is what it is,, no one but whites were
deemed worthy of an award""

...nothing BUT pure racism on your part. You imply it, own it....or keep twisting your own words...whichever.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:10 PM











here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


so no blacks are Oscar worthy this year... thanks for clearing that up...



lol

actually worthy blacks were not included,, but its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing is awry and nooone but white performers did anything of merit,,,


nothing surprising there,,,


so by those standards, the movie "Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse" and all it's actors should win everything, since I think it should... opinions are opinions, and ours don't count here...


wrong analogy, this isn't about one persons opinion about A movie, or AN actor

this is about thousands opinions of thousands of performances,,,



but nice try,,


nice to know all you see is black and white... all that matters is what the blacks think, right? if there would have been enough votes for a nomination, then then a black would have been nominated... maybe the blacks should be better actors/ have better roles rather than blaming everything on being black...




no one did any 'blaming',, its simply pointed out that no one but whites were not seen as worthy of a nod


and why attend an event that doesn't see you,,,"?



mightymoe's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:22 PM












here's an idea.. lets just give everyone an Oscar, since the blacks seem to think it's just a participation award, not a deserved award... they can just have them at the doors, so when anyone walks into the place, they just hand them an Oscar... that way, everyone is happy, and will smith can have one on his fireplace mantle to show everyone what a great actor he is...






no, lets not

but lets give credit where credit is due, regardless of race,,






opinions are opinions, i didn't see any black actors worthy of an Oscar this year... so screeching racism is going to change that?


no, but if you are one of the said black actors, not participating in the awards that don't find your work worthy, just mightdrinker


so the blacks screech racism, and they they LET a black in... does that make you/them feel better? wouldn't the award/nomination feel better if their wasn't a spike lee of jada screeching in the background? how do you know if was by merit or the "whites" feeling sorry for blacks and LETTING them have their way? is that equality in any sense?


why yes, yes it does

if I don't believe it had to do with MERIT in the first place, and want to be given MERIT,,,even if others must feel pressured to do so,,


so no blacks are Oscar worthy this year... thanks for clearing that up...



lol

actually worthy blacks were not included,, but its the easier and lazier conclusion that nothing is awry and nooone but white performers did anything of merit,,,


nothing surprising there,,,


so by those standards, the movie "Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse" and all it's actors should win everything, since I think it should... opinions are opinions, and ours don't count here...


wrong analogy, this isn't about one persons opinion about A movie, or AN actor

this is about thousands opinions of thousands of performances,,,



but nice try,,


nice to know all you see is black and white... all that matters is what the blacks think, right? if there would have been enough votes for a nomination, then then a black would have been nominated... maybe the blacks should be better actors/ have better roles rather than blaming everything on being black...




no one did any 'blaming',, its simply pointed out that no one but whites were not seen as worthy of a nod


and why attend an event that doesn't see you,,,"?





yea, yea, all the racist Hollywood people, never wants to give a black a break... i guess life just sucks to be black, huh...



msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:24 PM
laugh laugh laugh

it is what it is,,,

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:28 PM

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:30 PM
lol,, very dash logic,,,,, makes sense now

once again, its not about whether an INDIVIDUAL got something

its about whether ANY individuals within an entire GROUP got something

the thug not getting the banking job,, no big deal

Noone but white applicants getting interviews,, much more suspicious..

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:37 PM

lol,, very dash logic,,,,, makes sense now

once again, its not about whether an INDIVIDUAL got something

its about whether ANY individuals within an entire GROUP got something

the thug not getting the banking job,, no big deal

Noone but white applicants getting interviews,, much more suspicious..

Such







Utter












Excuse making














Horse $hit

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:40 PM



a reason or explanation put forward to defend


excuse 1. No black people merited an award for two years
excuse 2. Black people meriting an award were excluded in favor of white people



everyone is posting 'excuses',, but someone just might be right nonetheless,,

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:43 PM
I DO give you major props for this though...


"" the thug not getting the banking job,""


Watch out! Al and Jesse gonna getcha for using "thug" Turn in your NAACP card NOW! laugh

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:50 PM
oh,, and you thought I used the term because of race?


cute,,,

the photo doesn't show a cold day, presumably why the middle male has on no shirt,, yet the one beside him is covering his mouth with a bandana,, the way a thief might

,,whatever race,, appearing like a thief is thuggish,,

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 12:54 PM
oh,, and you thought I used the term because
of race?
What do you expect seeing as how its your favorite topic to defend out here....

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:01 PM
oh, its one of my favorite to RESPOND to,, being that I a member of the group being slammed in those I do respond to

yes,,, speaking up when others cannot or are very rarely available to is rather exhilarating


no apologies there,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:07 PM


The Oscar Racist Controversy: The Latest Example of American Idiocy
Posted on January 22, 2016

The latest self-conscious controversy orchestrated by preening, posing leftist “progressives” broke out after last week’s Oscar nominations — the second year in a row in which all 20 acting nominees are white.

Charlotte Rampling is the latest actress to weigh in on the race row that has erupted over this year’s Academy Awards.

Rampling, 69, who is nominated for the Best Actress Award for her role in “45 Years,” called the decision by some actors to boycott the Oscars “anti-white racism.”

“Maybe this time, no black actor or actress deserved to make it to the final selection,” she said during an interview on French radio station Europe 1. “Why should we always categorize people? I think nowadays we are living in easily offended societies. There will always be someone who’s too beautiful, too black or not white enough.”

You think?

Rampling gets to the heart of the matter. It’s perfectly fine to categorize people by race, gender, or any other objective classification – when it’s relevant.

Acting has nothing whatsoever to do with race. It has everything to do with acting. The same applies to script writing, special effects, music and the various other categories comprising the Oscars. The attempt to smear winners of this year’s nominations for Academy Awards with “racism” is actually racism itself. When you arbitrarily elevate the factor of race over and above other factors, you’re engaging in racism, by definition. To understand why, consider the polar opposite of racism: individualism. Individualism is where you make the attributes of character first and foremost, while racism is where you make the attribute of skin color or racial origin the central priority. Racist, socially conscious leftists started this fight; not anybody else. They are always the ones who start it.

Notice the methodology of those who smear those who wish to attend or view the Oscars with the charge of racism. Once upon a time, a charge of racism went like this: “I can prove that the people who did not get nominated were just as good, or in some cases better, than those who were white and nominated. It’s reasonable to assume that racism is a factor.” Valid or invalid, an argument intended as proof would follow.

Not so today. Today, all you need is name-calling intended as intimidation. It’s nothing more than schoolyard bullying, elevated to the level of sophisticated cultural analysis. Automatically, with no suggestion of evidence and none considered necessary, those who fail to immediately see the racism involved are condemned as – you guessed it, racist. It’s so sad. Those accused of racism feel impotent to defend themselves. “I can’t disagree with those claiming this year’s Oscars are racist. That would make me a racist.” So they bow their heads in compliance with the guilt-inducing name-callers who must know what they’re talking about, right? This is one more sad example of why America is failing and floundering. We’re doing it to ourselves, by letting these junkyard bullies passing as social commentators intimidate us into not thinking.

This also summarizes the whole problem with progressive leftism, the ruling orthodoxy of today’s government, academic and media culture. You’re guilty until proven innocent. In fact, if you fail to agree with the person making the claim, you’re guilty of the very thing (e.g. racism) for which the claim has not yet been proven. “You don’t agree with my charge of racism? That makes you a racist, then!” It’s circular reasoning. And it’s truly madness.

That’s why Charlotte Rampling’s daring pushback is encouraging. Racist-baiters used to count on white people, especially white leftists/progressives (everyone in Hollywood must at least pretend to be one), not challenging them. It was solely an argument from intimidation. The thing about the argument from intimidation? When your objects of intimidation refuse to take it any longer, and hold the one making the claim responsible for proving it, then it’s a whole new ball game.

Thank you, Charlotte Rampling.

Stacey Dash, another courageous actress, says, “We have to make up our minds. Either we want to have segregation or integration. And if we don’t want segregation, then we need to get rid of channels like BET [Black Entertainment Television], and the BET Awards, and the Image Awards, where you’re only awarded if you’re black. If it were the other way around, we would be up in arms. It’s a double standard. Just like there shouldn’t be a black history month. We’re Americans. Period. That’s it.”

Absolutely. The alternative to racism is individualism. America represents individualism, or at least it once did. The racist-baiters who try to intimidate and shame us into phony agreement will never accomplish a thing, not for anyone. I am sick of them, and everyone else who is sick of them should start saying so, too. Put the bullies in their place.

http://drhurd.com/2016/01/22/57754/


her statement is stupid and blatantly false

BET and Image awards nominate whites as well , which is what this issue was about,, just getting some RECOGNITION through being nominated,, it wasn't about not 'winning'

she is also making a lazy thinkers argument that in order to not support segregation people (in essence) shouldn't do for themselves but rather wait for the powers to be to decide to include them

its like saying the person who fired back when being fired upon, therefore is supportive of being fired at

nonsense,,,
so,you really think you got the "Right Stuff" to take on Michael Hurd?
Have a go at it,his Website is linked to the Article I linked to!
I bet he'd be glad for you to set him straight!laugh laugh laugh

no photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:08 PM
Edited by RebelArcher on Sat 01/23/16 01:10 PM
oh, its one of my favorite to RESPOND to,,
No one here who keeps up with what you post will ever disagree....


being that I a member of the group being
slammed in those I do respond to
Are you an actor who didnt get a nomination also?

Ohhhhh.....you mean the "black" thing....figures.


yes,,, speaking up when others cannot or are
very rarely available to is rather exhilarating
Good Lord.....


Well you keep on with your Mingle2 posting...wouldnt want to keep ya from being "exhilarated"...

God knows youre not gonna stop anyway. waving

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:22 PM

what a shame!laugh

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:26 PM



The Oscar Racist Controversy: The Latest Example of American Idiocy
Posted on January 22, 2016

The latest self-conscious controversy orchestrated by preening, posing leftist “progressives” broke out after last week’s Oscar nominations — the second year in a row in which all 20 acting nominees are white.

Charlotte Rampling is the latest actress to weigh in on the race row that has erupted over this year’s Academy Awards.

Rampling, 69, who is nominated for the Best Actress Award for her role in “45 Years,” called the decision by some actors to boycott the Oscars “anti-white racism.”

“Maybe this time, no black actor or actress deserved to make it to the final selection,” she said during an interview on French radio station Europe 1. “Why should we always categorize people? I think nowadays we are living in easily offended societies. There will always be someone who’s too beautiful, too black or not white enough.”

You think?

Rampling gets to the heart of the matter. It’s perfectly fine to categorize people by race, gender, or any other objective classification – when it’s relevant.

Acting has nothing whatsoever to do with race. It has everything to do with acting. The same applies to script writing, special effects, music and the various other categories comprising the Oscars. The attempt to smear winners of this year’s nominations for Academy Awards with “racism” is actually racism itself. When you arbitrarily elevate the factor of race over and above other factors, you’re engaging in racism, by definition. To understand why, consider the polar opposite of racism: individualism. Individualism is where you make the attributes of character first and foremost, while racism is where you make the attribute of skin color or racial origin the central priority. Racist, socially conscious leftists started this fight; not anybody else. They are always the ones who start it.

Notice the methodology of those who smear those who wish to attend or view the Oscars with the charge of racism. Once upon a time, a charge of racism went like this: “I can prove that the people who did not get nominated were just as good, or in some cases better, than those who were white and nominated. It’s reasonable to assume that racism is a factor.” Valid or invalid, an argument intended as proof would follow.

Not so today. Today, all you need is name-calling intended as intimidation. It’s nothing more than schoolyard bullying, elevated to the level of sophisticated cultural analysis. Automatically, with no suggestion of evidence and none considered necessary, those who fail to immediately see the racism involved are condemned as – you guessed it, racist. It’s so sad. Those accused of racism feel impotent to defend themselves. “I can’t disagree with those claiming this year’s Oscars are racist. That would make me a racist.” So they bow their heads in compliance with the guilt-inducing name-callers who must know what they’re talking about, right? This is one more sad example of why America is failing and floundering. We’re doing it to ourselves, by letting these junkyard bullies passing as social commentators intimidate us into not thinking.

This also summarizes the whole problem with progressive leftism, the ruling orthodoxy of today’s government, academic and media culture. You’re guilty until proven innocent. In fact, if you fail to agree with the person making the claim, you’re guilty of the very thing (e.g. racism) for which the claim has not yet been proven. “You don’t agree with my charge of racism? That makes you a racist, then!” It’s circular reasoning. And it’s truly madness.

That’s why Charlotte Rampling’s daring pushback is encouraging. Racist-baiters used to count on white people, especially white leftists/progressives (everyone in Hollywood must at least pretend to be one), not challenging them. It was solely an argument from intimidation. The thing about the argument from intimidation? When your objects of intimidation refuse to take it any longer, and hold the one making the claim responsible for proving it, then it’s a whole new ball game.

Thank you, Charlotte Rampling.

Stacey Dash, another courageous actress, says, “We have to make up our minds. Either we want to have segregation or integration. And if we don’t want segregation, then we need to get rid of channels like BET [Black Entertainment Television], and the BET Awards, and the Image Awards, where you’re only awarded if you’re black. If it were the other way around, we would be up in arms. It’s a double standard. Just like there shouldn’t be a black history month. We’re Americans. Period. That’s it.”

Absolutely. The alternative to racism is individualism. America represents individualism, or at least it once did. The racist-baiters who try to intimidate and shame us into phony agreement will never accomplish a thing, not for anyone. I am sick of them, and everyone else who is sick of them should start saying so, too. Put the bullies in their place.

http://drhurd.com/2016/01/22/57754/


her statement is stupid and blatantly false

BET and Image awards nominate whites as well , which is what this issue was about,, just getting some RECOGNITION through being nominated,, it wasn't about not 'winning'

she is also making a lazy thinkers argument that in order to not support segregation people (in essence) shouldn't do for themselves but rather wait for the powers to be to decide to include them

its like saying the person who fired back when being fired upon, therefore is supportive of being fired at

nonsense,,,
so,you really think you got the "Right Stuff" to take on Michael Hurd?
Have a go at it,his Website is linked to the Article I linked to!
I bet he'd be glad for you to set him straight!laugh laugh laugh


my statement was regarding Stacy Dash,,

I don't even know or care who Michael Hurd is,,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:27 PM

oh, its one of my favorite to RESPOND to,,
No one here who keeps up with what you post will ever disagree....


being that I a member of the group being
slammed in those I do respond to
Are you an actor who didnt get a nomination also?

Ohhhhh.....you mean the "black" thing....figures.


yes,,, speaking up when others cannot or are
very rarely available to is rather exhilarating
Good Lord.....


Well you keep on with your Mingle2 posting...wouldnt want to keep ya from being "exhilarated"...

God knows youre not gonna stop anyway. waving



of course I will, as soon as non blacks stop posting their nonsense about blacks,,,


no photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:35 PM
of course I will, as soon as non blacks stop
posting their nonsense about blacks,,,

"We's gots ta keep da racism alive so we's keep getn da free stuff!"

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/23/16 01:38 PM

of course I will, as soon as non blacks stop
posting their nonsense about blacks,,,

"We's gots ta keep da racism alive so we's keep getn da free stuff!"


what 'free stuff' is being referenced or asked for in this thread?