Since we are hearing so much about BLM , being based upon shat certain subgroups amongst the movement are doing

I would like to share something about TRUMP SUPPORTERS , based upon subgroups amongst t hem as well



IS DONALD WINNING BECAUSE OF AMERICAN BIGOTRY?



On Monday, the Washington Post looked at the white supremacists and white nationalists who cheer Trump as an asset to their movement. Trump has opened “a door to conversation” and “electrified” some members of the movement, says one leader in the Ku Klux Klan. “I think a lot of what he says resonates with me,” says David Duke, a “Grand Wizard” in the Klan and former Louisiana politician.


In a similar piece for the New Yorker, writer Evan Osnos spoke to Jared Taylor, a prominent white nationalist who described the situation as such. “I’m sure he would repudiate any association with people like me,” said Taylor, “but his support comes from people who are more like me than he might like to admit.”



These voices are self-serving, but that doesn’t mean they’re wrong. Trump has shot to the top, fueled by vicious rhetoric against Latino immigrants and Syriain refugees. He has shared racist memes about black Americans and called for a ban on Muslim travel to the United States. And each time, his support ticks higher.


Economic anxiety plays a part here. But maybe Trump has discovered something we all like to deny: That in the 21st century, the racist vote is larger, louder, and more influential than we ever thought.



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/12/is_donald_trump_s_racism_and_bigotry_making_him_the_republican_front_runner.html#lf_comment=432924180

Well...they do say immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

who is being imitated? are all the quotes in a thread therefore a means of 'flattery',,lol


are all analogies also compliments of some sort?

,,interesting,,

Well lets see...you state that since some talk about "BLM subgroups", youll talk about "Trump subgroups"....not real hard to see through.

nothing to see 'through' actually
it was pretty direct,,,

Suuuuuuuure

Sub groups?

Aren't those tourists who ...

i hope so, people are getting tired of all the anti white racism going on.. if the other races want to be bigots, then lets just have the battles and get it over with, since two wrongs make a right now...

what 'anti white' racism , exactly?

are we talking about examples of INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS and pundits who don't praise and embrace white people?

or something that affects whites AT LARGE and as a demographic in an especially negative or disenfranchised manner?

personally, I don't care if joe neighbors ignorant behind calls me the n word everyday nearly as much as I would care if someone in a position of actual AUTHORITY or power over me,, like an employer or legislature makes it clear that they view blacks as homicidal threats to white people,,,

blah, blah, blah... of course you don't see it because you're to busy seeing it only from the black side... white men are the only racists in the world, where everyone else is just trying to survive the white mans terror using the "n" word behind your backs... i guess you don't remember the "knockout" game, or the gangs initiation rituals of killing any white man they see, or "we need to kill all white babies" remarks... did you forget, or is that just not racism?

The “progressive” online magazine, Salon.com, recently ran an article entitled, “White men must be stopped: The very future of mankind depends on it.”

Now just imagine an article entitled “Black men must be stopped,” or “Hispanic women must be stopped.”

Or how about, “Militant Islam must be stopped.”

The outrage would be deafening, and we’d likely see the threat of legal action from the Obama administration. (On criticism of Islam, we already have a legal threat from Obama).

The Salon article reportedly blames the evils of white men on two things: Slavery and, in turn, capitalism, since capitalism supposedly causes slavery.

Such myths involve prejudice themselves.

Capitalism is the social system where all property, aside from necessary government buildings, is privately owned, and all profits belong to those who earn them.

Whatever you think of capitalism, slavery is not its defining feature. In fact, slavery is impossible under capitalism.

In the United States, it was not “white men” who imposed slavery. It was anti-capitalist white men (and others) who supported it.

Capitalism flourished in the North. It depended on the voluntary consent of everyone involved.

Racism elevates noneconomic factors to primary importance. In a racist society, particularly one upheld by government laws, businesses are prevented from appealing to customers of a certain race, and forbidden from hiring the best possible workers at the lowest possible rate, because of racial concerns.

Once you start making race a factor, capitalist concerns with profit and productivity are diminished or eliminated.

It’s the same with racism-in-reverse (which is still racism). Affirmative action, for example, orders businesses to make profit secondary to having a certain quota of people who are of a certain race (or gender, or some other victim group). This is no more economic, or profitable, than the opposite racial ideas which preceded it.

Why is this so hard to understand?

It’s time to move beyond slavery and the Civil War. In America, these ended 150 years ago. Slavery was upheld by (some) white men, but it was also ended by just as many white men. Abraham Lincoln was a white man. Why all the hostility towards white men, as a group?

It says something that American leftist progressives (the present Establishment) cannot and will not move beyond slavery. Their case for socialism is so lame, and relies so much on neurotic guilt and irrational fear, that they must keep rubbing our noses in the ugliest period of American history, the era of slavery.

Reason, facts and logic are not on the side of socialism, including the kind Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and their Republican errand boys in Congress keep trying to impose; the only way to “persuade” us of such a system is via shame, guilt and name-calling. It’s all they have.

But it’s important to get the facts straight. In the 19th century, it was the comparatively capitalist North which drove out slavery from the plantation-based, anti-capitalist economy of the South.

If it’s racism against blacks and if it’s slavery you hate, then you ought to love capitalism.

Capitalism is based on voluntary commitments and associations among consenting adult individuals. Success, quality and economic progress that benefit all parties involved are the constant motives of such a system. Race is irrelevant.

Capitalism, in its quest for quality, customer satisfaction and profit, minimizes and ultimately drives out concerns with irrelevant factors such as race, gender, and so forth. The only rational and proper concern under capitalism is getting the job done correctly, efficiently and profitably.

What in the world is immoral, much less racist, about any of this?

America has the best possible, most humane and most moral social system ever known to man within its reach. Instead, we bash and drive capitalism out by blaming it for factors such as racism, for which capitalism is the least responsible.

Eventually, all the government control and regulations will banish even the remnants of capitalism from our society; we’ll be no different from a third world country, at that point. Who or what will we blame then?

It’s a tragic shame. Things could be so much better in America, and the rest of the world, if we put the guilt aside and gave capitalism a chance.

Non-white supremacy is just as wrong as white supremacy. Capitalism is at odds with both of these things.

Anti-White Supremacy Just as Bad as White Supremacy

http://drhurd.com/2015/12/27/anti-white-supremacy-just-as-bad-as-white-supremacy/

well, how can I sse the side of anyone but the 'black' side? I mean it is the only side I have 'actually been through' :))

I never said whites are the only racists either, I said the perception of threat is increased if it is a black male, that is an AMERICAN thing across all races,,, but a particularly disparate and dangerous perception for officers of the LAW to have,,,

Gangs are CRIMINALS, CRIMINALS target all types of people based upon opportunity,,, or did you just think their only source of violence upon others is the 'knockout game'? that's what CRIMINALS do,,,,and still mostly homicide victims are still victims to an assailant of their own race

quit spinning around, we are talking about anti-white racists, not your excuses...

its more than how long ago slavery ended

its about a CULTURE:
The Center for Advance Research on Language Acquisition goes a step further, defining culture as shared patterns of behaviors and interactions, cognitive constructs and understanding that are learned by socialization. Thus, it can be seen as the growth of a group identity fostered by social patterns unique to the group.


US culture, IF we choose to only acknowledge what happened since its official 'founding',,,,in 1776

100(roughly) years of blacks being merely property
another (roughly)100 years of blacks not having civil rights

so out of 239 years, the largest MAJORITY of those years,
nurtured a CULTURE where blacks were 'less than' and not equal citizens,,,


that makes for a fairly SOLIDLY laid foundation for whatever followed,,,,

no spin, addressing the subject in the previous post referencing gangs,,

Personally, I've come to believe that racism, and most of the other "isms' are more subtle and complex than is commonly realized. There are a number of sub elements to them, which once recognized, allow one to much more accurately appreciate and deal with them. It's a bit like how if you go deeper than atoms, to understand substances, you find that you can more readily deal with how they behave in combination.

Anyway.

Trump IS tapping in to racist energies, just as the GOP has done for decades, but this is a side effect of the fact that he is more directly tapping into a LOT of people who are frustrated about larger race related issues.

It's a bit like, that you don't have to be antisemitic, to find fault with how the government of Israel deals with it's Arab populations. But the people who ARE antisemitic will enthusiastically cheer whenever you speak up in opposition to Israeli activities, and if you, like many Republican candidates do, fail to firmly and clearly speak out AGAINST those antisemitics, their support will stain your campaign.

I think it's also possibly true, that many Americans are so clumsy in how they conduct themselves, and so sloppy in who they will support, that they will turn themselves in to effective bigots, even when they really aren't such.

THAT behavior is because people who are after one smaller thing which is important to them, will often accept a larger, even destructive thing that isn't important to them, especially if they think that only people who they DON'T know, will suffer.

In short, I think there's less of bigotry, than there is of intellectual, emotional, and pragmatic LAZINESS behind it all.

definitely worth considering, I cant deny observing those things aas well,,,,

Finally, someone gets it.

As long as liberals lose the reigns in 2016,
I don't really care the motives of Trump's supporters.