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if youd notice I included TWO questions , one of which was did he 'charge' the officers and also an IF statement these clearly show that I aknowledge a lack of full knowledge, and an opinion based upon IF a certain scenario is true,,, 
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 12/27/15 12:34 PM
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if youd notice I included TWO questions , one of which was did he 'charge' the officers and also an IF statement these clearly show that I aknowledge a lack of full knowledge, and an opinion based upon IF a certain scenario is true,,,
every article has 'bias',, no game there, just a need to be able to discern the 'facts' from the bias I actually think in this internet age it should be a high school course cause so many have problems with this,,,, the facts that concern me are,, the boy had a bat(which doesn't kill quite as quickly or instantly or from a distance as a GUN does), there was more than one officer, they would have all had guns as well as LESS LETHAL weapons,,, the boy and an innocent bystander are now dead facts, no bias,,, and IF the facts end up that the boy merely having a bat was the cause of them so carelessly opening fire(obviously careless in the fact that innocents were around and they hit one) then they needed better training,,,, and IF he actually CHARGED them with the bat held in a threatening position,, than their shooting is justified and no, just walking around with the bat and not being 'obedient' is not the same as being 'threatening' |
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if youd notice I included TWO questions , one of which was did he 'charge' the officers and also an IF statement these clearly show that I aknowledge a lack of full knowledge, and an opinion based upon IF a certain scenario is true,,,
every article has 'bias',, no game there, just a need to be able to discern the 'facts' from the bias I actually think in this internet age it should be a high school course cause so many have problems with this,,,, the facts that concern me are,, the boy had a bat(which doesn't kill quite as quickly or instantly or from a distance as a GUN does), there was more than one officer, they would have all had guns as well as LESS LETHAL weapons,,, the boy and an innocent bystander are now dead facts, no bias,,, and IF the facts end up that the boy merely having a bat was the cause of them so carelessly opening fire(obviously careless in the fact that innocents were around and they hit one) then they needed better training,,,, and IF he actually CHARGED them with the bat held in a threatening position,, than their shooting is justified and no, just walking around with the bat and not being 'obedient' is not the same as being 'threatening' 
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if youd notice I included TWO questions , one of which was did he 'charge' the officers and also an IF statement these clearly show that I aknowledge a lack of full knowledge, and an opinion based upon IF a certain scenario is true,,,
every article has 'bias',, no game there, just a need to be able to discern the 'facts' from the bias I actually think in this internet age it should be a high school course cause so many have problems with this,,,, the facts that concern me are,, the boy had a bat(which doesn't kill quite as quickly or instantly or from a distance as a GUN does), there was more than one officer, they would have all had guns as well as LESS LETHAL weapons,,, the boy and an innocent bystander are now dead facts, no bias,,, and IF the facts end up that the boy merely having a bat was the cause of them so carelessly opening fire(obviously careless in the fact that innocents were around and they hit one) then they needed better training,,,, and IF he actually CHARGED them with the bat held in a threatening position,, than their shooting is justified and no, just walking around with the bat and not being 'obedient' is not the same as being 'threatening' But go ahead with your faux social justice issue. And, God forbid, youre ever about to get your brains bashed in by someone with a bat, handle it yourself...dont call the cops. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 12/27/15 12:55 PM
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I wouldn't expect you to have problems with them
but then you have no idea what black people 'actually go through' being that I have a black son which I raised, and three black brothers,, the perceived 'threat' that being black seems to add to a situation,,,, concerns me a great deal lol |
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RebelArcher
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Sun 12/27/15 01:01 PM
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Iwouldn't expect you to have problems with
Oh....so only black folks. Thats what I figured this thread was about to begin with. Thanks for making it official them 
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they killed someone for throwing bricks at a police staion yesterday as well... Tasers are just used for fun, i guess, when they have no weapon... http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/north-phoenix/police-officer-shoots-suspect-in-north-phoenix yeah, that would be akin to CHARGING WITH A BAT that's actual ACTION with a weapon,, just HAVING one is a different story,, or else millions of gun owners in right to carry states would be up crap creek without a paddle next time they went on a stroll and raised their voice to someone or argued,,, 
yea, throwing a rock at a police station should be a death warrant, with no trial or judge... or is it just the fact he wasn't black is the reason you just brush it aside? |
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Iwouldn't expect you to have problems with
Oh....so only black folks. Thats what I figured this thread was about to begin with. Thanks for making it official them
nah, the post was specific to you,,,sorry mods I wouldn't expect YOU to have a problem,,, you feel apparently that its only about how someone behaves and nothing else , like racial perception, plays a part,,, ,,,, |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 12/27/15 01:18 PM
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they killed someone for throwing bricks at a police staion yesterday as well... Tasers are just used for fun, i guess, when they have no weapon... http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/north-phoenix/police-officer-shoots-suspect-in-north-phoenix yeah, that would be akin to CHARGING WITH A BAT that's actual ACTION with a weapon,, just HAVING one is a different story,, or else millions of gun owners in right to carry states would be up crap creek without a paddle next time they went on a stroll and raised their voice to someone or argued,,,
yea, throwing a rock at a police station should be a death warrant, with no trial or judge... or is it just the fact he wasn't black is the reason you just brush it aside? I didn't click on your link the only thing I read was 'they' with no idea who 'they'are so to answer, no I didn't brush anything aside but I did immediately feel such a situation would justify shooting,,, and upon further re reading,, its not justified either, if it was ONE PERSON, however it could be argued at least that he was ACTIVELY threatening,,,,unlike someone just HOLDING a brick may have been |
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I wouldn't expect you to have problems with them but then you have no idea what black people 'actually go through' being that I have a black son which I raised, and three black brothers,, the perceived 'threat' that being black seems to add to a situation,,,, concerns me a great deal lol That's odd. when I read the contents of the first post, I didn't see any mention of race. Could it be that race isn't an issue in this particular case? |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 12/27/15 01:32 PM
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I wouldn't expect you to have problems with them but then you have no idea what black people 'actually go through' being that I have a black son which I raised, and three black brothers,, the perceived 'threat' that being black seems to add to a situation,,,, concerns me a great deal lol That's odd. when I read the contents of the first post, I didn't see any mention of race. Could it be that race isn't an issue in this particular case? the thread has progressed from strictly the op, as most threads do and race isn't an issue until someone implies to me that whenever police take a life its warranted based upon someones BEHAVIOR,, when I have seen that the same BEHAVIORS seem to be perceived as much more of a threat from black males than others, and I am mother to a black male its something I am sensitive to, when others feel like its not worth caring about as long as it didn't happen to them and that's what makes it significant to me, this was a kid and I am a mother AND this kid happened to also be a black male, and I am mother to a black male.... |
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Edited by
RebelArcher
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Sun 12/27/15 01:38 PM
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I wouldn't expect you to have problems with them but then you have no idea what black people 'actually go through' being that I have a black son which I raised, and three black brothers,, the perceived 'threat' that being black seems to add to a situation,,,, concerns me a great deal lol That's odd. when I read the contents of the first post, I didn't see any mention of race. Could it be that race isn't an issue in this particular case? with a pic of the victim right off the bat (no pun intended). The OP knew what she was up to and she knows it.
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The issue here is whether or not law officers had a less-lethal means to subdue a young man who was swinging a bat.
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Sad that anyone has to have the holidays tainted by a controversial death...in this day and age a person should know the shoot first rule prevails...if he threw the bat down and laid on the ground he would probably be alive...maybe...the police came looking for my son a few weeks ago...eight officers..they wanted to ask him about something that they heard he may know about.....my sisters dogs were outside..one a small Yorker the other a medium old lab cross...one cop put his hand on his gun while I got the dogs inside... I just shook my head and told the officer they are harmless..he just said we will see...it already was excessive that eight officers came to "question " my son...but the hand on the gun was too much...glad nothing happened...but if my son was outside with a bat...hmmmm
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The issue here is whether or not law officers had a less-lethal means to subdue a young man who was swinging a bat. |
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Btw, other "riveting" headlines where the OPs article is found...
Lauryn Hill Gifts Fans With A “Cradle In Bethlehem” Cover For The Holidays Tyrese Posts An Open Letter To Donald Trump: “I’m Deeply Hurt And Bothered By Your Antics” Fetty Wap Gifts His Right- Hand Man Monty With A Brand New BMW The Game Found Guilty Of Battery, Ordered To Pay 40 Glocc http://www.vibe.com/ Hard hitting journalism, I tell ya
And dont get me started on the OP author and her BLM bs.... |
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The issue here is whether or not law officers had a less-lethal means to subdue a young man who was swinging a bat. wouldn't even made the news if the word "black" wasn't involved... when was the last time you saw "white" man got shot? [Over the span of more than a decade, 2,151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks] http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/21/michael-medved/talk-show-host-police-kill-more-whites-blacks/ |
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The issue here is whether or not law officers had a less-lethal means to subdue a young man who was swinging a bat. wouldn't even made the news if the word "black" wasn't involved... when was the last time you saw "white" man got shot? [Over the span of more than a decade, 2,151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks] http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/21/michael-medved/talk-show-host-police-kill-more-whites-blacks/ Except that the first post in this thread doesn't even mention race. |
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#bat lives matter...
I guess. 
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The issue here is whether or not law officers had a less-lethal means to subdue a young man who was swinging a bat. that's how it started, thank you originally, my stand was that police don't make good enough use of LESS LETHAL means,,and appear too often to just take kill shots right away |
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