What is independent about some woman, one way or the other you have to depend on somebody for survival

uhhhhh ya mean like your boss when he signs the paychecks?
the teller at the bank who puts my money in my account?
the people that stock the shelves at the store where I buy groceries?
my landlord I pay my rent to each month?
the car company I send my car payment to?

Then What is independent about some men , one way or the other you have to depend on somebody for survival

To be independent simply means that you are free from outside control. If you're an independent woman I don't believe this means that you have a disconnect from others or a need to do everything yourself. I think humanity strives off our need for others and this includes the "independent woman". In my opinion being a independent woman is more that you have designed a lifestyle for yourself that allows you to have a certain amount of control or freedom in your everyday choices because you have constructed your life in this way. You're not completely depended on others emotionally or financially which makes making independent decision and living an independent lifestyle a lot more tangible.

My msg to independent women, and I luv you ladies to pieces, stop trying to be equal to men. You are so much better, so please stop huh!!

I think first we need to break down exactly what does survival mean.

I don't need another to put food on my table,
Pay my bills.

I do need and want companionship.
I do need and want love,


I don't need anyone for the survival of my material things.
I do need and want emotional things from others as much as I do need and want to give that back.

Yup....break it down to the old NEEDS VS WANTS......and survival is a breeze. Substitute the first half with wants and second half with needs, is all I am saying...

i dont think you may say independent when she depends on other for survival...
independent for me is depending on what she have and what she had.

I think you're a little confused, if they are dependent upon someone that means they are NOT independent. If you want to see independents, there are a lot of single mothers out there who have to raise children alone because some BOY couldn't fulfill his obligation as a MAN and take responsibility for his actions.

An independent woman is one that doesn't have to call you every half hour to; make sure you're really at the ball game with Fred and not at the bar with some floozy, ask you if you like tater tots or french fries, just hear your voice, rant about what her mother just told her,
rant about Suzie at the office for the four-hundredth time, tell you what Toni said Bob said about Harry, tell you somebody told her her car is making a funny noise.........

2 seconds to google the definition of the word "independent" should make the answer extremely obvious.


That's not true.

One way or "the other" you have to depend on somebody for survival if you wish to successfully live in a group/culture/society where specialization and interdependence is normalized but striated into classes via meritocracies and capitalism.

Then declarations of "independence" are attempts to promote ones position in the hierarchy, a social position, and has little to do with the pedantic definition of the word "independent."

I went out with this independent chick one time. She told me before we met for dinner that she was independent and if I had an issue with it. I replied I didn't. Fast forward to the end of dinner and at this point she and I have had solid convo. So when the waitress asks me how we wanted the bill handled, I told her separate checks. I looked at Miss Independent who is now all shocked that I just said that. To which I replied...."Well you asked me if I had a problem with you being independent. I am just proving to you I don't by letting you pay your way".