Topic: Paris Attacker Identified
msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 09:54 AM



but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




how do you talk someone into blowing themselves up? does the president of France have special powers like bush did to make people commit suicide?


Ask the japanese:smile:

war is sacrifice, nothing surprising there



however, how do you talk people into joining armies? the belief in being a part of something bigger than themselves and maybe coupled with having nothing left to lose


in any case, its all moot, since ISIS claimed responsibility,, end of that discussion and ,,,,moving on,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 09:56 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/15/15 09:57 AM

,,,,,try to move on people,,,
Ditto to you too....you havent shut up about it since your very first post on the other thread.


its a bad habit

you(used in the objective form and not directed at anyone specific) start it, I will finish it

so long as Im being addressed, I respond,,,,

until I get bored with it , at least

I have addressed and brought up several other points in this thread, but yet, the majority of those addressing my contributions are CHOOSING This one incredibly trivial point to obsess over,,,,


IM happy to respond to something different,

no photo
Sun 11/15/15 09:56 AM


but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




Obsession?...with you?... don't flatter yourself Lol...now that MS.. is delusion ;)

try looking at other posts in other threads.. I'm on many.

Your ridicules statements brought this on you.. from many fronts.. many different people. male.. female.. all walks of life... Nobody is obsessed with you...or at this point.. even impressed.




msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 09:58 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/15/15 10:00 AM



but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




Obsession?...with you?... don't flatter yourself Lol...now that MS.. is delusion ;)

try looking at other posts in other threads.. I'm on many.

Your ridicules statements brought this on you.. from many fronts.. many different people. male.. female.. all walks of life... Nobody is obsessed with you...or at this point.. even impressed.





so why continue addressing me, instead of the topic?

I made many statements, the ones people choose to single out say as much about them as about me



mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:03 AM




but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




how do you talk someone into blowing themselves up? does the president of France have special powers like bush did to make people commit suicide?


Ask the japanese:smile:

war is sacrifice, nothing surprising there



however, how do you talk people into joining armies? the belief in being a part of something bigger than themselves and maybe coupled with having nothing left to lose


in any case, its all moot, since ISIS claimed responsibility,, end of that discussion and ,,,,moving on,,,,,


don't you get dizzy from all that spinning?

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:10 AM





but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




how do you talk someone into blowing themselves up? does the president of France have special powers like bush did to make people commit suicide?


Ask the japanese:smile:

war is sacrifice, nothing surprising there



however, how do you talk people into joining armies? the belief in being a part of something bigger than themselves and maybe coupled with having nothing left to lose


in any case, its all moot, since ISIS claimed responsibility,, end of that discussion and ,,,,moving on,,,,,


don't you get dizzy from all that spinning?


do you?

mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:30 AM






but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




how do you talk someone into blowing themselves up? does the president of France have special powers like bush did to make people commit suicide?


Ask the japanese:smile:

war is sacrifice, nothing surprising there



however, how do you talk people into joining armies? the belief in being a part of something bigger than themselves and maybe coupled with having nothing left to lose


in any case, its all moot, since ISIS claimed responsibility,, end of that discussion and ,,,,moving on,,,,,


don't you get dizzy from all that spinning?


do you?


you're the one talking about war, what does that have to do with killing a bunch of kids at a concert? how many Japanese kamikaze's walked into a non wartime nightclub and started killing people? what did killing any of the french contribute to a war? it's just senseless killings, nothing to do with any war effort, nothing to do with any honor, and nothing you said has anything to do with this...


so i'll ask again - how does anyone convince someone to kill themselves while doing the bidding for someone else while killing hundred of innocents? you brought up the conspiracy theory here, just trying to see how you might even consider that..

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:36 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/15/15 10:39 AM







but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




how do you talk someone into blowing themselves up? does the president of France have special powers like bush did to make people commit suicide?


Ask the japanese:smile:

war is sacrifice, nothing surprising there



however, how do you talk people into joining armies? the belief in being a part of something bigger than themselves and maybe coupled with having nothing left to lose


in any case, its all moot, since ISIS claimed responsibility,, end of that discussion and ,,,,moving on,,,,,


don't you get dizzy from all that spinning?


do you?


you're the one talking about war, what does that have to do with killing a bunch of kids at a concert? how many Japanese kamikaze's walked into a non wartime nightclub and started killing people? what did killing any of the french contribute to a war? it's just senseless killings, nothing to do with any war effort, nothing to do with any honor, and nothing you said has anything to do with this...


so i'll ask again - how does anyone convince someone to kill themselves while doing the bidding for someone else while killing hundred of innocents? you brought up the conspiracy theory here, just trying to see how you might even consider that..



look up 'false flag attacks' and it may clear up how I or others can 'consider' these things



war: an organized effort by a government or other large organization to stop or defeat something that is viewed as dangerous or bad


ISIS views western culture as 'bad' and attacks random areas
those random areas view ISIS as 'bad' for those attacks and strike back,,
ISIS strikes back at those that strike back

,,etc,,etc,,etc,,,,,= WAR



under the guise of 'war' and something bigger than themselves, many sign up to sacrifice their lives ,, throughout history

we were only used to jihadist middle easterners being desperate enough to target civilians and kill themselves for their 'war'

but our shortsightedness doesnt make it true,, its a big world , and its the desperate and/or hateful who can justify killing as a means to a 'greater good',, and the hopeless who can consider suicide

combining all these attributes in any one person, makes a perfect and completely controllable/obedient killing machine , an asset to any war

and desperate/hateful people can be ANY nationality or religion


Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:41 AM
http://traditionalbritain.org/blog/marine-le-pen-statement-on-paris-attacks-in-english/

mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:41 AM








but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




how do you talk someone into blowing themselves up? does the president of France have special powers like bush did to make people commit suicide?


Ask the japanese:smile:

war is sacrifice, nothing surprising there



however, how do you talk people into joining armies? the belief in being a part of something bigger than themselves and maybe coupled with having nothing left to lose


in any case, its all moot, since ISIS claimed responsibility,, end of that discussion and ,,,,moving on,,,,,


don't you get dizzy from all that spinning?


do you?


you're the one talking about war, what does that have to do with killing a bunch of kids at a concert? how many Japanese kamikaze's walked into a non wartime nightclub and started killing people? what did killing any of the french contribute to a war? it's just senseless killings, nothing to do with any war effort, nothing to do with any honor, and nothing you said has anything to do with this...


so i'll ask again - how does anyone convince someone to kill themselves while doing the bidding for someone else while killing hundred of innocents? you brought up the conspiracy theory here, just trying to see how you might even consider that..



look up 'false flag attacks' and it may clear up how I or others can 'consider' these things



war: an organized effort by a government or other large organization to stop or defeat something that is viewed as dangerous or bad


ISIS views western culture as 'bad' and attacks random areas
those random areas view ISIS as 'bad' for those attacks and strike back,,
ISIS strikes back at those that strike back

,,etc,,etc,,etc,,,,,= WAR



under the guise of 'war' and something bigger than themselves, many sign up to sacrifice their lives ,, throughout history

we were only used to jihadist middle easterners being desperate enough to target civilians and kill themselves for their 'war'

but our shortsightedness doesnt make it true,, its a big world , and its the desperate and/or hateful who can justify killing as a means to a 'greater good',,

and desperate/hateful people can be ANY nationality or religion




it's not war, wars target soldiers and other targets that help a side win, not concert halls filled with kids or restaurants... this was just murder, something the muslims are getting good at...

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:42 AM
not according to miriam

has NOTHING to do with civilian/military status of targets,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:43 AM








but it could have been a anti immigrant groups (non Muslims) who staged this attack killing all those people ( their own kind, in a coordinated multi stage attach) and then make it look like the immigrants Muslins) did it. Then the townsfolk would have retaliated against the poor innocent Muslims.

You know.. it could have happened that way.. right..it could have....

It was not right to blame the Muslims, we (the western world world) jumped to conclusions.. Poor Muslims.. always getting a bad wrap from us who do not follow their agenda.

How delusional we are.





wasnt it 'possible' and entirely feasible to many that 9/11 was an inside job to incite war?


it was a theory, because its not beyond humans to incite wars they deem necessary for some greater good


there was no judgment on people who were saying it was muslim, there was only my CHOICE not to join the jump to a conclusion without MORE FACTS,,,


there was no denial that it was muslims, there was my CHOICE to have more information before stating it definitively


,,,,,try to move on people,,, seriously, its getting kind of scary, this obsession,,,,sad2 scared




how do you talk someone into blowing themselves up? does the president of France have special powers like bush did to make people commit suicide?


Ask the japanese:smile:

war is sacrifice, nothing surprising there



however, how do you talk people into joining armies? the belief in being a part of something bigger than themselves and maybe coupled with having nothing left to lose


in any case, its all moot, since ISIS claimed responsibility,, end of that discussion and ,,,,moving on,,,,,


don't you get dizzy from all that spinning?


do you?


you're the one talking about war, what does that have to do with killing a bunch of kids at a concert? how many Japanese kamikaze's walked into a non wartime nightclub and started killing people? what did killing any of the french contribute to a war? it's just senseless killings, nothing to do with any war effort, nothing to do with any honor, and nothing you said has anything to do with this...


so i'll ask again - how does anyone convince someone to kill themselves while doing the bidding for someone else while killing hundred of innocents? you brought up the conspiracy theory here, just trying to see how you might even consider that..



look up 'false flag attacks' and it may clear up how I or others can 'consider' these things



war: an organized effort by a government or other large organization to stop or defeat something that is viewed as dangerous or bad


ISIS views western culture as 'bad' and attacks random areas
those random areas view ISIS as 'bad' for those attacks and strike back,,
ISIS strikes back at those that strike back

,,etc,,etc,,etc,,,,,= WAR



under the guise of 'war' and something bigger than themselves, many sign up to sacrifice their lives ,, throughout history

we were only used to jihadist middle easterners being desperate enough to target civilians and kill themselves for their 'war'

but our shortsightedness doesnt make it true,, its a big world , and its the desperate and/or hateful who can justify killing as a means to a 'greater good',, and the hopeless who can consider suicide

combining all these attributes in any one person, makes a perfect and completely controllable/obedient killing machine , an asset to any war

and desperate/hateful people can be ANY nationality or religion


so,you propose to sit on your Fanny doing nothing,except turning the other Cheek?
What happens when you run out of Cheeks,as you invariably will?

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 10:46 AM
curently I am sitting on my fanny , doing nothing about it,,
and you?

does activity have to do with opinions?

Rock's photo
Sun 11/15/15 11:12 AM
I suppose, this would have been so much easier... if, everyone had just blamed "whitey" for the attacks.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/15/15 11:17 AM
would have been an equally ridiculous 'discussion'


JaiGi's photo
Sun 11/15/15 03:12 PM



I wonder if they will be releasing more names,,,,,

they have made several arrests at this point,,,


Hollande seems to be like O, absolutely no idea what to do!!
All shadow targets. He was in the football stadium!!



where did you expect him to be?
On the Barricades?whoa


H could've declared that "France's Muslim community must accept the Syrians on same lines like France accepted them (the earlier Muslim immigrants) OR ELSE..."

Instead: He declares war on ISIS - which does not 'exist on French soil'; just French Shia's network. So instead of the F_Shia community opening up & weeding out the anti-Syrians the declaration closed ranks among all Shia's.

As i said, H has absolutely no idea on governance.



mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/15/15 04:44 PM




I wonder if they will be releasing more names,,,,,

they have made several arrests at this point,,,


Hollande seems to be like O, absolutely no idea what to do!!
All shadow targets. He was in the football stadium!!



where did you expect him to be?
On the Barricades?whoa


H could've declared that "France's Muslim community must accept the Syrians on same lines like France accepted them (the earlier Muslim immigrants) OR ELSE..."

Instead: He declares war on ISIS - which does not 'exist on French soil'; just French Shia's network. So instead of the F_Shia community opening up & weeding out the anti-Syrians the declaration closed ranks among all Shia's.

As i said, H has absolutely no idea on governance.





wth are you talking about?

no photo
Sun 11/15/15 06:10 PM

I don't know but I don't doubt.


I doubt that.

no photo
Sun 11/15/15 06:18 PM
and just think what it will be like when the muslims become the majority?
in France and other countries? Not far away.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/16/15 02:05 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/omar-ismail-mostefai-petty-criminal-cold-blooded-terrorist-050710504.html/

Courcouronnes (France) (AFP) - Omar Ismail Mostefai was known to police as nothing more than a petty criminal before he became the first gunman identified from Friday's attacks in Paris, which left at least 129 dead.

Identified by his finger, which was found among the rubble of the Bataclan concert hall, the 29-year-old was one of three men who blew himself up killing 89 people in the bloodiest scene of the carnage.

Born on November 21 1985, in the poor Paris suburb of Courcouronnes, Mostefai's criminal record shows eight convictions for petty crimes between 2004 and 2010, but no jail time.

Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said Mostefai had been singled out as a high-priority target for radicalisation in 2010 but, before Friday, he had "never been implicated in an investigation or a terrorist association".

Investigators are now probing whether he took a trip to Syria last year, according to police sources.


The killer's father and 34-year-old brother were placed in custody on Saturday evening and their homes were searched.

"It's a crazy thing, it's madness," his brother told AFP, his voice trembling, before he has taken into custody.

"Yesterday I was in Paris and I saw how this **** went down."

The brother, one of four boys in the family along with two sisters, turned himself in to police after learning Mostefai was involved in the attacks.

While he had cut ties with Mostefai several years ago, and knew he had been involved in petty crimes, his brother said he had never imagined his brother could be radicalised.

The last he knew, Mostefai had gone to Algeria with his family and his "little girl," he said, adding: "It's been a time since I have had any news."

"I called my mother, she didn't seem to know anything," he said Saturday.

A source close to the enquiry said Mostefai regularly attended the mosque in Luce, close to Chartres, to the southwest of Paris.
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I have seen 3 articles on this guy. And I am more angry than I was before. Because now I am also angry at the pres

Already... The a@@kissing!
I don't give a sh@t how old he was, his damn family or where he was born or where he went!

How dare the media refer to him as "An attacker"? This is NOT a domestic crime. He was not a murderer or serial killer.

He is a an Islamic Terrorist. And THEY declared WAR on the planet in the 1970's.
He is a solider of Satan.


Call it what it is.


France isn't known for it's Police or Military being effective, so this doesn't really surprise me.