Frankk
For those who believe in God, that is a very relevant question.
Usually the answer is He didn't create them gay,they chose to be gay.
Scientific research is pointing in a different direction.
For those who don't believe in God,the question is irrelevant.



MH
no, but I know science can no more 'prove' someone is 'born' as a homosexual than they can prove they are 'born' preferring salty snacks over sweet ones

Reply You do not know what science may or may not prove,I have not said science has proved anything,merely that there is evidence to suggest and until that evidence is refuted not just questioned it remains as evidence people may use in reaching their conclusions just as you have used your "knowledge" to arrive at your conclusion
MH
but perhaps semantically, I should have stated science' pointing' elsewhere means nothing,, science can 'point' in as many directions as the scientists agendas can look for,,,,

Response scientists have agendas,you have an agenda no disagreement

MH
and God created humans,, and gave them free will from there

Response God may have given humans free will but He didn't give them much choice.Obey my commandments or go to hell or whatever term you wish to apply to the consequences for not obeying.I don't see where this is relevant to my original post.

MH
to be liars, or cheaters, or promiscuous, or abstinent, or homosexual, or heterosexual, or ,,etc,,etc,,,, behavior is a choice

Response Your belief but we were discussing homosexuality.

MH
and I don't believe in 'hating' sinners , nor do I think God does,,,

Response Nor do I,most people who believe in God believe and hope that this is true,otherwise their belief is pointless,the Bible says "there are none who have not sinned"

MH
but I will 'hate' sin,, as I also believe God does


Response why bother wasting emotional energy,better to avoid sinning to the best of your ability.

other than the obey or go to hell philosophy,, we agree

hell is reserved for special people just as heaven is,, the rest just DIE,, and dont have eternal life in either place


he only says obey my rules to come into my home,, Ive been raised that way my whole life,, whomever I visited,,,lol

Love?

How can it be love?

Even in case of heterosexual relations we usually tend to discriminate between sex & love.

Homosexuality IMO is originally sexually biased...sexuality that too
unnatural.

Two gays comes together only with their physical attraction & not due to love feelings about the person.....we can witness this through almost every homo's posts.....they usually invite people in open forums as ANY GAY....?
or ANY LESBIAN ....??

If it's love feeling ,then why can't it be some really lovely person irrespective of their gender?

I am Gay and I am in love with a man, it is not about sex for me as I do not have sex with someone until after we are in a relationship. Not all gay people are just looking to hook up. Some of us actually want a real relationship. What about gay couples that have been together for 20+ years? are they still just looking for sex? Shall we discuss all the sites out there for straight people to just have sex? All the people that are only looking for sex, no strings attached. How about all the sites dedicated to helping someone cheat on their spouse?

I (and I'm sure a large number of others) did not wake up one morning and decided "aww hell i'll be gay today". It was something I struggled with for years. No one would CHOOSE to be gay in a society that abhors gay people and treats them horribly. I came out because I was miserable with girls, i dated a few before I came out. I couldn't be intimate with them, it never felt right. Being with a guy, that feels right, and I don't go out just to find my next hook up, hook ups arent for me, I actually date them.

people are confused as to what gay really is... anyone can love anyone else and not be gay... being gay is about attraction/sex... i can love my best friend, but not be attracted to him...


so keep that in mind when the gays start trying to confuse people into saying how right is is, when they start talking about their right to love whoever they want...because it's not just a right, it's nature to love, it's not nature to have sex with the same sex...

Thank you Mightymoe
Well said

Well said Foliel.

Before you posted, I was disgusted, but not surprised by the completely bigoted views expressed by prashant01. I should have spoken up then.

mightymoe, you might be right that some people are confused as to what 'gay really is', but I guess most of those people are straight, and so it is not logical to then be told by a straight person what exactly gay and gay love is or is not.

Mightymoe, you say 'when the gays start trying to confuse people into saying how right is is' (*it is), I personally dont think gay people say it is right, but more accurately right for them. After all, being straight is right for the straight people, bi right for bi people etc. Gays do not try to confuse the straight, but the straight may get confused. That is not gays fault. A gay person DOES sometimes have to assert that it is their right to love (sexual attraction) who they want, because modern (and most medieval and ancient) society denies them that right.

society will come around, with the exception of hard core fundamentalists, but the gays need to stop lying... they themselves are perving the issue by ssaying these outlandish ideas about love and sex...

even the bible says to "love" thy neighbor, not to have gay sex with them...

so it's not about love, it's about attraction and sex...

Im not really sure how you would respond were someone to force their opinion on you that you didnt love your wife/partner. I guess you would respond negatively.

I am actually having difficulty understanding your point. I love my parents and grandparents, they are both male and female. I love and have loved women sexually. I would imagine if I was gay the first part would still be true, but the second part would refer to a man rather than a woman.

Am I lying? does what I said make sense to you? I am not even sure if what I said contradicts what you said because I do not understand what your real opinion is about gay love. Are you saying a gay man cant love another gay man, or can only love another man like they would a parent/child? Please explain. You are confusing me, does that mean by your past logic that you are gay?

PS. 'but the gays need to stop lying' Does this mean the blacks need to stop lying about slavery, or the jews need to stop lying about the holocaust, women stop lying about equality? Am I being unfair? Why exactly?

since when is love gay? the sex is the gay part, not love...


if i say i love my best friend, but not attracted or want to have sex with him, what does that make me?

Mightymoe


"since when is love gay? the sex is the gay part, not love...


if i say i love my best friend, but not attracted or want to have sex with him, what does that make me? "


It doesn't definitively make you anything.You could be having gay sex with your best friends mate.

The animal world endorses "gay" sex is this natural (nature) or not ?

not... pointless and unproductive, only to satisfy a persons want for just sex...

and there are no "gay" animals, this is exactly what i'm talking about, the lies and just stupid crap gays say to try to make their point valid...

love is not exclusively gay, as you unfairly imply, but gays are not excluded from loving in an attraction way.

If you say you love your best (same sex) friend, I would say that could be described as caring, and shouldnt be suggested it is sexual if you are straight.

HOWEVER, what you are describing is the denial of a more sexual love between people of the same sex. It surely cant be true that millions of gay people from all countries, religions, ethnic backgrounds and cultures are actually not in love with someone that they are sexual with if they claim to be in love.

What would that make me if I denied them that claim, would that not mean it would be fair for them to make the same accusation on me and my beliefs of who I love and how?


I would like to hear the opinions of more gay people on this matter, please join in if you are reading. :)

see, you're confusing my point... i'm against the gay sex, period... love has nothing to do with a gay's sexual desires

It doesn't definitively make you anything.You could be having gay sex with your best friends mate.

The animal world endorses "gay" sex is this natural (nature) or not ?


not... pointless and unproductive, only to satisfy a persons want for just sex...


The issue in question is not the reason for having sex or the productivity resulting from that behaviour ".The issue I am seeking an answer to is whether homosexual sex in the animal kingdom is natural or not.

no such thing, more propaganda set forth by the gays... do some research, and find a true gay animal...

If many different animals indulge in gay sex then it is entirely natural as it occurs in nature. This is undeniable, and takes little thought (without bigotry or prejudice) to come to this conclusion. The only question is: Does it occur in nature outside the human species.

If so, then we can stop making up crap to throw at those we dont fully understand.

'no such thing, more propaganda set forth by the gays... do some research, and find a true gay animal...'

An animal only has to act bisexually or have a gay experience to be included in what I said, if you are suggesting that an animal could lead an entirely gay life then I believe this is possible too. I do doubt you would find an entirely gay species tho, I hope you are not suggesting that as your only criteria.

@ mightymoe.
Are humans animals ?

show me one...

yes, but outside of humans, there are no gay animals... when you guys can show one on here, or anywhere, then we can talk about this propaganda crud...