the abandoned town of Pripyat, with chernobyl reactor#4 in the background. i found it on a search... motorcycling thru chrenobyl

wow

lol?

i dont generally find the worst man made disaster on the planet laughable but to each thier own. there are over 2000 towns and villages that were evacuated and will never be habitable again. 4000 times the amount of radiation than hiroshima. the human toll will never be known, but there were people that literally fell apart while working during the first few days. The trees were glowing red. who knows the long term effects.... ect ect.

exactly

WHAT?

Chernobyl has very low radioactivity, no noticable increase in cancer, not increase in birth defects and most of the area is now inhabited. Yeah, it sucks for those few people killed in Chernobyl and their families and all of the displaced families, but claiming that this was some terrible disaster is incredibly exaggerated. Six million people die a year because DDT isn't legal. Six million. Six freakin million. Chernobyl is Disney land in comparison.

2000 towns evacuated= disneyland? 100 to 600 microrems is the typical contamination rate today even 30 miles away. VEHICLES THAT AFTER 20 PLUS YEARS ARE STILL AT 20 REMS? People disintegrated while working there. The trees glowed. above the reactor the readings were between 10,000 and 30,000 rems. there are about 10,000 people mostly elderly who have moved back into the areas ( where there were 2000 towns) without permission from the authorities. You have to have special permission to travel there. The core ( dubbed the elephant foot) still reads over 10,000 rems. it is a mass of glass like "stuff". The sarcopagus is disintegrating. women who were childern there have an astronomical stillbirth rate. 300,000 hectares of farm land deemed unusable for ever. yup its the worst industrial accident in history. Spider, wake up. what do you expect to hear from the official accounts?

rambill79,

I'm not into conspiracies, it requires WAY too much imagination. Since most of that area is now inhabited and since the international community (IAEA) has declared that almost the entire area is fit for inhabitation, I'll go with them. And since there are people living there and they aren't turning into mutants and Godzilla hasn't destroyed their towns, I'm going to assume that the MSM ONCE AGAIN exaggerated an event to create hype. The whole glowing trees and people disintegrating...that's pure fantasy.

10,000 to 30,000 REMS? WHAT? HELLO? 600 REMS is deadly. There is absoloutely NO WAY that the radioactivity was 10,000 REMS. The people in the immediate area received 400 REMS, which was enough to make them sick and it killed some, but where the heck did you get 10,000 to 30,000 REMS?

Could you offer some links...something to prove what you are saying? I can't find any confirmation for anything you are posting.

Farm land was clered with Brassic Plants (think I got the name right). The plant absorbs what ever in the ground & plant absorbed the radiation, replanting was done till ground cleared.
Interesting science, man screws up & figures out how to fix it.
Even if it is Russia. They have good scientists too.

well spider and sage, glad you posted some facts.i have a power plant not more than 20 miles from me and i was getting kind of scared.

motorcycling through chernobyl is one link. For those who know that the internet is ONE source of info, not THE source, you could visit there, like i have. I have relatives and friends in Kiev. The IAEA paints a very rosy picture but looking at a radmeter tells all, which i have done. the Biorobots, or human liquidators who worked on the roof of the reactor building were exposed to 10,000 to 30,000 rems, and some disintegrated while working, after about 45 minutes of this exposure. just because 600 rems is lethal, actually in about half of the exposed individuals, doesent mean that the radiation levels cant be higher. example.. if exposed to 6000 rems/hr for one minute, whats the exposure penalty dose? ans. 100 rems.
there is a sickness known as radiaton induced sickness, which is psycological. its also true that the levels are in fact lower than expected after this amount of time, and the increased cancer rates that were expected havent been realised. They claim that the dneper river is not suffering any contamination at this point, but some estamats also claim that it would take about 80 years for the plume to reach there.
Its also common knowledge locally that there were thousands of casualties rather than the 31 official casualties. These peopls know as thier husbands and brothers simply didnt return.
cutie, dont worry our reactors are better shielded and more safe for a lot of reasons. your fine here in the states. Alot of the blame for chernobyl lies with the state and the way they operated thier plants.

oldsage.. where do they keep these plants that absorb the radiation? who processes them? your getting the sanitized version.

.... there are gravesites in Kiev and the surrounding areas that have very elevated levels of contamination....

thanx rambill...i feel a lot better.when 9/11 happened there was fear of attempted plane crashes aimed at the Seabrook plant.caused a lot of anxiety around here.

there have been studoes done with that scenario, the planes bounce off the containment dome in the simulations. This dome is concrete tens of feet thick with 4" prestressed rebar to boot. Chernobyl had no such containment vessel. it was deemed to expensive by the state.( it would have cost 30% more) Also they use liquid sodium sa=as a coolant which has caused all manner of problems thru the years. if i were you i would feel safer than those who live far away simply because or the continus onsite and offsite monitoring that is done.

seabrook plant. ill have to look that one up. is it a very old plant? they usually run for about 40 yrs before being shut down.

its also true that a lot of outlying areas are being used as either forests or farmland. The forested areas tend to have more radioactive soils. milk production is tainted with radionuclides and wont pass...
the levels dropped fast at first but now are in a slower decay curve...
the old folk who have returned to the 30 km exclusion zone have not as yet suffered adverse efffects that were expected despite exposure...