There is no such thing as a nice human. In all of my travels I have discovered one irrefutable truth and that is that every humans action, good, bad or indifferent, is driven by the need to fulfill a selfish agenda.

Now I know that a lot of you are going to say that I'm full of it, and that's ok with me. I'll admit that my selfish agenda here is to find some kind of entertainment in my sad, lonely, pathetic, excuse for a life. At least here I can finish a conversation without being cut off mid sentence, and even if it's not true I can at least pretend that people care.

To sum up, be careful OP because I am what happens to nice guys when they get tired of being walk on.

Being shy doesn't make somebody nice. It just means that you're hiding what you're really like. Likewise, being a bit forward with women does not make someone bad.

You seem to think that you deserve women for being nice and that nice guys couldn't possibly compete with bad guys because not only are bad guys not shy but they have no scruples at all about getting the women that nice guys deserve. You would think that there would be guys then, that are alright and not shy but alas, only two types of guys.

It's a bit presumptious and churlish of you to call yourself nice and other guys bad just because they're getting the women and you aren't. How do you know that they're bad? You think that you deserve women because you're nice but if you're shy how can they know that? How do you know that the "bad guy" isn't just putting on a front to get women and is that what makes him bad? How do you know that he's not really a nice guy?

What do you mean by "bad"? Is it being the sort of guy that gets girlfriends? Is it the sort of guy that tries to chat up women because he wants to have sex with them? Isn't it the truth that you're just too shy to do that but you want the same thing that they want? No point in complaining that you didn't get the girl if you didn't even try and if you didn't want to have your wicked way with her what's the problem?

thanks,, I think,,,lol

What I think first when I see this type of thread and I do apologize a head of time. I think here we go again with a niceguy thread... When I head a man tell me that they are a nice guy I run the other way.. The reason for that is this.. Each guy that has told me they were a nice turned out to be azzhats. A nice guy will show it all the things he does and says period he doesn't have to tell me.

What do I think of nice guys, a true nice guy is flat out amazing. They are wonderful to be with. They are the keepers. But a true nice guy doesn't realize just how freaking nice he really is, even when we tell them time and time again.

In all honesty... I don't believe in the script of "nice guy/girl" I believe in someone doing the absolute best that they can. Admitting when they screw up and when they make a mistake. Their actions are never done to prove how nice they are, they just do them

Now Shy or awkward is adorable if it is real.