Topic: Is christianity a load of old nonsense?
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Thu 08/20/15 02:53 AM




"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." - 1 Corinthians 1:18 (NIV)


The above quotation from the Bible says it all. The carnal mind cannot understand the things of the Spirit.

But those who seek God in earnest will find HIM and will know that God is real and that eternity (life after death) is certain. John 3.16 (Bible) explains that God so loved the world that HE gave HIS only Son (JESUS CHRIST), that whosoever believes in HIM should not perish but have everlasting life.

JESUS also said in the Bible, "I am the way, the truth and the life".


The name of the messiah isn't Jesus. It's literally impossible. There's no j in Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek. You can't possibly find salvation if you don't know something as basic as God's actual and proper name.



good luck reading יהושע

I doubt he is pinned up on it either




So, then, what is the Hebrew name for JESUS? If you are Hebrew, call HIS name in Hebrew.

Whether you call HIM as HE is called in Hebrew or as HE is called in French or as HE is called in any other language, JESUS CHRIST is one and the same...yesterday, today and forever. HE is the way, the truth, and the life! He died for the sins of the world and lives to save. The power to save souls is in HIS hands.

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Thu 08/20/15 03:31 AM
HI AM JARK BARTON,HAVE SINGLE FOR SOME YERAS NOW.....AND since then have n,t found an honest woman,I really want an Christianity woman who really believe in god...oops you are here I will be glad if u could message

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Thu 08/20/15 03:44 AM

HI AM JARK BARTON,HAVE SINGLE FOR SOME YERAS NOW.....AND since then have n,t found an honest woman,I really want an Christianity woman who really believe in god...oops you are here I will be glad if u could message


lemme guess...you're involved in a military career...? some kind of engineer? spock

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Thu 08/20/15 04:04 AM
All religions reflect their followers attempts to understand their own lives, and to make sense of existence itself. Calling them TRUTH or calling them nonsense, are equal acts of self-blinding ignorance, usually driven my struggles with one's own ego.

Christianity as it is today, was built up by it's adherents, over two thousand years, with all sorts of motivations playing a part from one time to another.

It is common in difficult times, for people who feel powerless, or for people who want more power over others than they already have, to declare the existence of Magical Controls in the world. It is important for those reacting to this to understand PEOPLE AND THEIR MOTIVATIONS, more so than to try to make sense of the magic bits on the stories they tell.

If all you do it to reject all if it, you are closing your mind to understanding the world of other humans around you. At the same time, if you select one religion and slavishly follow it, you are actually enslaving yourself to the motivations of the other humans who built that belief system, whether you are willing to accept it or not.

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Thu 08/20/15 07:59 AM


So, then, what is the Hebrew name for JESUS? If you are Hebrew, call HIS name in Hebrew.

Whether you call HIM as HE is called in Hebrew or as HE is called in French or as HE is called in any other language, JESUS CHRIST is one and the same...yesterday, today and forever. HE is the way, the truth, and the life! He died for the sins of the world and lives to save. The power to save souls is in HIS hands.


Yahowsha.

His Hebrew name is his only name. I'm harping on this same point over and over again because it's a common misconception and it's a lie.

If I went out with you and we were holding hands while walking down the street and then I said "hey, I love you" and then proceeded to call you by the name of another woman wouldn't you feel immensely disrespected?

Reference Exodus 20:4-7 from any translation.

I know this isn't a very intellectually stimulating conversation. If anybody wants to hi-jack the thread and maybe steer this in a different direction please feel free to do so.

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Thu 08/20/15 08:25 AM
Edited by RebelArcher on Thu 08/20/15 08:28 AM


HI AM JARK BARTON,HAVE SINGLE FOR SOME YERAS NOW.....AND since then have n,t found an honest woman,I really want an Christianity woman who really believe in god...oops you are here I will be glad if u could message


lemme guess...you're involved in a military career...? some kind of engineer? spock
You would be correct ma'am...about the military part anyway. And I guess Jark is his nickname laugh

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Thu 08/20/15 04:32 PM



HI AM JARK BARTON,HAVE SINGLE FOR SOME YERAS NOW.....AND since then have n,t found an honest woman,I really want an Christianity woman who really believe in god...oops you are here I will be glad if u could message


lemme guess...you're involved in a military career...? some kind of engineer? spock
You would be correct ma'am...about the military part anyway. And I guess Jark is his nickname laugh

Google Image Search is the bees knees


Wanna hijack this thread?? laugh

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Thu 08/20/15 07:13 PM





God goes by many names in the Bible but doesn't change who He is.

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/the%20many%20names%20of%20god.htm



You provided a dead link and your statement is a half truth and therefore it's erroneous. My earthly father only has one name. It's only logical that the same would apply to my heavenly Father.

http://anintroductiontogod.com/An_Introduction_to_God-02.0-Shem-His_Name.Torah


from an atheist view, you all pray to the same god, but kill each other over his name...

noway



When you read Bible you will know it�s not the same God for all. And also will know that the fault is not in religion but in humans who don�t really follow what Bible says. I can�t talk about other religions because I haven�t read all their texts. So I�ll just stick to christianity.

One of my ex collegues (atheist) told me once that all the evil comes from losing sense that there is something above us, something bigger than us. He really surprised me by his statement.

I was raised as a Catholic but truly accepted the faith when I experienced in my darkest periods of life goodness in people.
My brother told me that he realized God�s existence when he saw all the evil in this world and understood that we wouldn�t even exist now if there wasn�t something that still holds the leash.

Different views, same result.
well, what makes you so right and them so wrong and vice-versa? are there many gods and everyone is right and wrong at the same time? is a point of view worth killing over?

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Thu 08/20/15 07:53 PM

well, what makes you so right and them so wrong and vice-versa? are there many gods and everyone is right and wrong at the same time? is a point of view worth killing over?


The way i see it, its not a matter of what these people believe as so much why they believe.

Religion aside, if you believe in an ideology so fanatically and put in so much emphasis on wanting everyone to believe in the same thing, no matter what the cost, then even the slightest contradiction to it can end up in violence and killings.

It happens all the time in a variety of issues involving race, gender, politics, money, territory, power...etc etc...Many times, religion/belief or lack of it, since it is deeply ingrained in an individual, is usually the headliner used to sway popular opinion towards a more personal agenda, or manipulate groups of people into becoming puppets with a cause.

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Fri 08/21/15 03:36 AM



So, then, what is the Hebrew name for JESUS? If you are Hebrew, call HIS name in Hebrew.

Whether you call HIM as HE is called in Hebrew or as HE is called in French or as HE is called in any other language, JESUS CHRIST is one and the same...yesterday, today and forever. HE is the way, the truth, and the life! He died for the sins of the world and lives to save. The power to save souls is in HIS hands.


Yahowsha.

His Hebrew name is his only name. I'm harping on this same point over and over again because it's a common misconception and it's a lie.

If I went out with you and we were holding hands while walking down the street and then I said "hey, I love you" and then proceeded to call you by the name of another woman wouldn't you feel immensely disrespected?

Reference Exodus 20:4-7 from any translation.

I know this isn't a very intellectually stimulating conversation. If anybody wants to hi-jack the thread and maybe steer this in a different direction please feel free to do so.


just not time yet. best to remember to save your pearls. I am sure u know what will happen to them in the open

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Fri 08/21/15 12:09 PM
What comes to mind when you see big letters in a court that says "In god we trust" or when people swear by the bible like they do in tv-shows.
You have to obey and keep obeying this great hypothetical camera in the sky and let it control you. Doesn't that make you wonder if you're really into this because you're afraid of what might happen if you don't openly announce your conviction or do you really think it to be true?
Do you really think we matter that much?

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Fri 08/21/15 02:53 PM
After all the discussion on here I make one point. If I'm wrong about eternity then we lose nothing but if I'm right think what you will lose and I will gain. end of argument.

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Fri 08/21/15 03:36 PM

After all the discussion on here I make one point. If I'm wrong about eternity then we lose nothing but if I'm right think what you will lose and I will gain. end of argument.


End of entirely illogical argument. You're rephrasing the infamous "Wager of Pascal."

It fails utterly. The reason it fails utterly is built into it, though everyone who pats themselves on the back for repeating it, refuses to think enough to notice it.

In order for anyone who DOESN'T already believe as you do, to make good on your religion, they have to trick your God into thinking that they do believe.

They have to lie, and your God has to be fooled. Since all religions these days, claim that their God can't be fooled, and that TRYING to fool the god will instantly land the culprit in hell, your idea is nothing more than you rather nastily crowing about how you've purchased Heaven. In most forms of Christianity, that's blasphemy as well, or at least sinfully trying to speak for god.



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Sat 08/22/15 12:16 PM
Warriorlord48, The fact that see choosing your religion as the difference between going to heaven or hell, thus securing your afterlife whilst watching everyone else who didn't make the right choice go to hell, is a pretty horrible thought.
Certainly not something a loving Christian would think no?
Not that I would know.

Amazing post btw, IgorFrankensteen

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Sat 08/22/15 01:31 PM
I love God with all my heart...but I just have faith...can't call myself a Christian...all I ever see them do is talk how great they are and feel they are gifted with the ability to judge others...if they really believed you would think they would know that judgement is Gods...and I think a lot of " Christians " are going to be surprised at what God thinks of them..it's not the bad people that are going to be upset in the end...it's the "good" people that will be...those of us that are suffering and considered bad by other "good" humans are not going to be surprised if God slams the door in our face...happens all the time by the Christians on earth...it's the
"good" people that are in for a rude awakening...drinker flowerforyou

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Sat 08/22/15 01:52 PM
There's nothing wrong with Christianity, just the way some interpret it.

The Pope himself is more understanding than some of the loony tune comments I've read from time to time in the forums.

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Sat 08/22/15 05:04 PM

I love God with all my heart...but I just have faith...can't call myself a Christian...all I ever see them do is talk how great they are and feel they are gifted with the ability to judge others...if they really believed you would think they would know that judgement is Gods...and I think a lot of " Christians " are going to be surprised at what God thinks of them..it's not the bad people that are going to be upset in the end...it's the "good" people that will be...those of us that are suffering and considered bad by other "good" humans are not going to be surprised if God slams the door in our face...happens all the time by the Christians on earth...it's the
"good" people that are in for a rude awakening...drinker flowerforyou
...lol...geez..my apologies for generalizing...it's not just Christians that judge everyone...lol..and my response was a tad off topic..offtopic ...guess if Christianity isn't a bunch of nonsense we are in for it...flowerforyou

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Sat 08/22/15 06:41 PM


I love God with all my heart...but I just have faith...can't call myself a Christian...all I ever see them do is talk how great they are and feel they are gifted with the ability to judge others...if they really believed you would think they would know that judgement is Gods...and I think a lot of " Christians " are going to be surprised at what God thinks of them..it's not the bad people that are going to be upset in the end...it's the "good" people that will be...those of us that are suffering and considered bad by other "good" humans are not going to be surprised if God slams the door in our face...happens all the time by the Christians on earth...it's the
"good" people that are in for a rude awakening...drinker flowerforyou
...lol...geez..my apologies for generalizing...it's not just Christians that judge everyone...lol..and my response was a tad off topic..offtopic ...guess if Christianity isn't a bunch of nonsense we are in for it...flowerforyou


If god is anything like the bible describes him, I think I'd rather be "in for it" than not. Especially if it's the old testament god.

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Mon 08/24/15 06:42 AM

"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." - 1 Corinthians 1:18 (NIV)


I cherish this wisdom and knowledge
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Mon 08/24/15 06:47 AM

I've tried to read it many times over the years but now it's really starting to try my patience. What's all this seven candles sticks and seven stars stuff? He goes on to explain the candle sticks represent churches and the stars angels. Well that helps!


The seven candle sticks and seven stars is the divine revelation given to John.
The seven churches and seven stars representing the angels is the interpretion of the divine revelation given to John.