^Idk.
Anyhow, dd, you brought up Tyrone Harris. He has been accused and charged with a gun related crime. There's a reason for being vague. At the time I was asking questions based on what little snippets of crap that was released on the news >as the story develops<. He's been charged.

Dylan Roof was also charged with a gun related crime. In Roof's case there was 1 gun, 1 shooter, 9 victims who died. Roof was apprehended without any shots exchanged even though a black officer was one of the arresting officers who knew who he was arresting. Roof didn't have any gunshot wounds or anything to suggest that he lost control of the gun before all 9 had been killed. If Roof was skilled or quick enough with his gun to kill 9 people inside a building in close proximity, he COULD very likely be even more dangerous given space to manuever. It was also broad daylight when Roof was captured making conditions for accurately targeting officers civilians cars etc, optimal. That is a serious threat that was handled calmly and properly. Perhaps not what many would have liked to happen to Dylan Roof at that time, BUT that is why everyone is not given the duty and responsibility that comes with the badge.

Harris's case is literally a lot messier. Not just with his blood either. Has ANYONE seen or heard anything about the FIRST shooter? I haven't. There were 3 separate shooting incidents reported that night, one seen on surveillance video, 0 body cams 0 dashcams of all the police that were literally camped out in lines in riot gear all over what is reportedly 2 different crime scenes and a possible 3rd since we knew there were 3 separate shooting incedents. If it is Harris seen in the video, which even having seen longer clips of it does squat for the picture quality, he didn't draw the gun from his waist until people were already hitting the deck and scrambling for cover meaning He Wasn't The First Shooter. He then leaves that crime scene and encountered four detectives inside an undercover van who all reportedly fired at Harris from inside that van after he is said to have fired on them first. No police were reported injured.

Anyone who has fired at moving target KNOWS that it is much less mechanically demanding to hit a stationary target. Let's cut the range from indefinite to 40 yards or less which is well within the effective range of modern pistols. There is an added degree of difficulty when the shooter is moving. At any rate, carrying a holstered weapon and having one in hand gives the advantage to the moving shooter with pistol in hand. There is also a degree of difficulty drawing a holstered weapon inside a van. Add to that there are 3 friendlies inside the SAME van. ALL 4 fired on a MOVING target from INSIDE the SAME van. It is highly unlikely that the detectives weapons were holstered.
When someone shoots at you and you draw, return fire, then take off running someone yelling at you WILL spike your adrenaline and invoke a fight or flight INSTINCT. Harris was running, perhaps out of ammo, perhaps a misfeed, a jam, something converted his commission of the act of returning fire (fight), to running (flight) away from where he or someone else at the scene was fired upon. After the encounter at the 2nd
scene with the 4 detectives, his immediate startle response, since it happened seconds later, would be to lift the gun or dive for cover. Im not denying there was any wrong done by Harris but there are at the very least 5 guns and 5 KNOWN shooters. Too much of what should be on video is missing, there's at the very least 1 shooter missing, and possibly another crime scene missing when police were literally lining the streets. I am sure more details will have to surface for a trial to even occur, but from what is actually seen or reported by police chiefs in charge of the protest, one actually being interviewed across the street from the first crime scene at the time of the shooting... There is GROSS NEGLIGENCE across the board by all enforcement agencies involved.

Roof and Harris are both criminals. Considering the FACT of a gubernatorial state of emergency being declared and the deployment of 3 or more enforcement agencies to PROTECT THE PUBLIC on the night in question there are far too many moving and MISSING pieces that the POLICE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. I'd say 3 law enforcement agencies strategically placed in riot gear during a protest that has national attention there should be at least a few seconds of bodycam footage from 1 officer somewhere before or after the shooting(s). And yes, we should hold our law enforcement to a higher standard than the criminals they release and recapture for sport. People do serve sentences for felonies don't they? People do have conditions to their releases and probations when they commit multiple felonies don't they? Why was Harris out again? Who was his judge, p.o.? How long ago was he arrested for these felonies?

I guess I didn't make myself clear... I thought I did.. but well...

You lost me with the above " dead sea scrolls" at "1st shooter". I told you a few times already.. I don't give a s**t about the first shooter. You seem to do.. But I don't. And since there is nothing on the web about it (including from his family), it appears no one else does either... So I stopped reading at that point. Sorry.

The first shooter turned a peaceful protest with
civil disobedience

a peaceful protest with
civil disobedience by WHITE and black citizens
into 2or three crime scenes

WHITE

You "don't give a **** about the FIRST
shooter". Didn't that person(people) break
more laws than Harris did?

be so kind as to tell us
why you are posting in this thread?

Those questions weren't for you dd. You don't give a f**k. Those questions are for those who do care that police go after all the shooters, which I have said many times before. Questions prove the COMPLETE FAILURE of law enforcement and the courts there.
Realisticly, what black teen walks out of two felony thefts a GUN and a CAR with just a slap on the wrist?
No house arrest, no parole. No sentence? These things do matter, legally speaking. This would be like someone walking into a bank during a riot and 4 people walking out carrying bags of money, only without the riot. Had he mistakenly shot a white child with a stray bullet that night I have a feeling many more people would care who the judge was what the outcome of the trial was and who his p.o. was amassing marching on Ferguson and the St Louis County courthouse calling for the judge's disbarrment and wanting the p.o.'s head on a stick. Every soccer mom in a 250 mile radius would be there.
That's what I'm saying. Black non gang members engaged in peaceful protest and a mixed race crowd mainly white black and hispanic engaged in civil disobedience TOGETHER. The latter is what caused the state of emergency because people were blocking roads and highways. Gang members one in particular that would have been in jail had the court done its job, had a shootout that just so happened to coincide with the peaceful protest. The 4 'detectives' haven't been identiftied so we don't know yet if any of them were white.

Were ANY police wearing an ACTIVE BODYCAMS?

If you don't give a f**k feel free to ignore the questions.

You just don't get it... do you


got it now?...its like talking to a wall. which I find to be a waste of time.. so, I'm done with that