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Topic: Half of blacks say police have treated them unfairly
germanchoclate1981's photo
Wed 08/05/15 06:02 PM

Just looking at the title of the article, I have to ask:

Who said life was fair? Because guess what, it isn't.

It's not fairnessless. It's lawlessness. Nobody cares who gets picked last to play whiffle ball. Having a car crash and asking for help is not home invasion. Being seen walking unarmed and losing a one sided game of tazer tag when you're already in shock from a horrific crash is NEVER a reason for someone to be gunned down DEAD. That is amateur vigilanteism at best. This is proving to be policy that skips Miranda Law altogether when the suspect is black. It's not happening to Asians, its not happening to eastern Indians.

What would you do if a black man ran towards your car with a gun drawn and reached for your door to pull you out? You're not armed, you're driving slowly through your neighborhood. The guy pulls you out of the car and you struggle with him over the gun that goes off in the struggle. He never identiftied himself as an undercover Policeman. Would you fear for your life? What if it happened to your son or your brother? Do you think they would fear for their lives in that situation? Would you be upset if you survived it and had charges filed against you or them?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/05/15 06:10 PM


Just looking at the title of the article, I have to ask:

Who said life was fair? Because guess what, it isn't.

It's not fairnessless. It's lawlessness. Nobody cares who gets picked last to play whiffle ball. Having a car crash and asking for help is not home invasion. Being seen walking unarmed and losing a one sided game of tazer tag when you're already in shock from a horrific crash is NEVER a reason for someone to be gunned down DEAD. That is amateur vigilanteism at best. This is proving to be policy that skips Miranda Law altogether when the suspect is black. It's not happening to Asians, its not happening to eastern Indians.

What would you do if a black man ran towards your car with a gun drawn and reached for your door to pull you out? You're not armed, you're driving slowly through your neighborhood. The guy pulls you out of the car and you struggle with him over the gun that goes off in the struggle. He never identiftied himself as an undercover Policeman. Would you fear for your life? What if it happened to your son or your brother? Do you think they would fear for their lives in that situation? Would you be upset if you survived it and had charges filed against you or them?


why would you expect that to happen? obviously there was a reason the cop was going for him, whether we know it or not... and how do you know the cop didn't identify himself? are the Asians or Indians causing problems? are they killing each other right and left? are they standing on the corners selling drugs? cops follow the crimes, period. if you live in a high crime area, then you should expect to be hassled by the police, who have a job to do STOPPING CRIME, in case you forget... where are the most crimes being committed? in the Asian or Indian communities or in the black communities?

so why should the cops be hassling the Asians or Indians?

2469nascar's photo
Wed 08/05/15 06:41 PM
read in US TODAY i think, 86% of white ppl have delt with revers racisem from blacks,I see it all the time,but iam sure thats ok sence there great great great grand parents were slaves right?

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/05/15 06:48 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 08/05/15 06:49 PM

read in US TODAY i think, 86% of white ppl have delt with revers racisem from blacks,I see it all the time,but iam sure thats ok sence there great great great grand parents were slaves right?


there is a difference from individual prejudice and institutional racism

there is a difference when my white neighbor doesnt like me and doesnt invite me to tea

or the white clerk doesnt serve me politey

vs

when a white officer(a person with authority over ones life) decides my son is a 'threat' and therefore expendable

or a white teacher thinks my quiet child is not participating enough and my outgoing child has an 'attitude'

there are personal hangups from strangers with no real power, and theres the built in racism from those in authority with all the power,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/05/15 07:08 PM
the good and the bad

the way its been since the founding,,,,(the bad)

each obstacle teaches and makes us stronger ,,,(the good)

germanchoclate1981's photo
Wed 08/05/15 08:58 PM

read in US TODAY i think, 86% of white ppl have delt with revers racisem from blacks,I see it all the time,but iam sure thats ok sence there great great great grand parents were slaves right?

Racism is not ok. I know we don't live in a perfect world and not everyone has noble thoughts or actions. One thing that I can say for sure is that racism hurts EVERYONE. Every race and creed has experienced racism. Every race and creed is effected by racism. This includes whites. Whites make up the majority of the U.S. population and there was a time when racism against non whites was encouraged. Abuse of non whites was encouraged. Our world has changed since the civil rights movements began but nobody waved a magic wand and 'fixed' everything. Racism is still very much alive and active, if not in policy by a State or the US, very much so in communities groups and the internet. So to experience reverse racism, which I also think�is wrong, is going to happen. Asian Americans have a bone to pick, Jews have a bone to pick, native-americans have a huge bone to pick, Latino-Americans have a bone to pick, black and African Americans have a huge bone to pick, their grievances would be misplaced if they were directed at their Pakistani neighbors. That would be stupid unless that neighbor did something to to all of those groups mentioned above with all the other minority American CITIZENS. That would be extremely rare. Many of my white friends throughout my life have treated me with respect along with their parents in most cases. I treat all people with respect until they disrespect me.

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Wed 08/05/15 09:56 PM

germanchoclate1981's photo
Sat 08/08/15 12:36 AM
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read in US TODAY i think, 86% of white ppl have delt with revers racisem from blacks,I see it all the time,but iam sure thats ok sence there great great great grand parents were slaves right?

There's your problem. /\

germanchoclate1981's photo
Thu 08/13/15 11:42 PM

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read in US TODAY i think, 86% of white ppl have delt with revers racisem from blacks,I see it all the time,but iam sure thats ok sence there great great great grand parents were slaves right?

There's your problem. /\


Back to you Nascar, did you see the news about the unarmed black high school football player that was killed at the car dealership in Texas? The white cop was a rookie but there were several other officers present that were setting up a perimeter to box him in ( like they were trained to do, good police work) but the cop just went in alone a shot the kid killing him.

To stop any whining.... Yes the kid had vandalized cars but if you look at the footage shown you could tell that he was high on something. I don't know the circumstances around him driving his jeep into the showroom (pre/ post shooting?) but he could have been tazed or pepper sprayed. As high as he was on (not synthetic mj) shrooms, pcp, LSD, or what is being passed of as synthetic mj these days since they outlawed the safe 'Clemson U' stuff I have seen some people jumping out of windows after 1 puff in YouTube vids that made the news. There aren't too many substances that have those effects but the kids learn that synthetic doesn't show up on drug tests it's legal to buy (maybe) and sometimes cheaper and definitely more accessible than mj. The parents don't know they think ' oh when I was his age....' that kids are just experimenting with mj or alcohol the way some of our parents did. I turned out ok so he/she'll be fine. They're not though.

The Cheif of police there immediately suspended the officer and asked the FBI to oversee the investigation. Again no bodycam footage. They fired the cop yesterday.

What the kid did was stupid but we forget that they are kids. This one had no idea what was going on and I hope they source whatever drug he was on and take out the supplier.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 08/14/15 12:22 AM

black people don't listen and are rude to police


You can say that again, and they are loud and obnoxious when they are caught and it's everyone else's fault. I have dealt with that a few times over the years. You followed me and stopped me because I'm black....... Nope I stopped you because you stole something..... Idiots.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/14/15 11:00 AM
white people are also rude and dont listen to the police

thats not the point

the point is, the different reaction to rudeness and/or disobedience

not to mention the issue with the mentality that police cant be wrong and have the right to enslave you to their commands regardless of your rights,,,

honest254237's photo
Fri 08/14/15 11:23 AM
When you travel and meet all kinds of people you realize there is nothing like race in this world. Everywhere there is mad people of all kinds.

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/15/15 01:57 PM

When you travel and meet all kinds of people you realize there is nothing like race in this world. Everywhere there is mad people of all kinds.



I can agree with this, race is UNIVERSAL Tracking of ancestry,, but people all around the world share similar ancestry while having completely different cultures

this is another reason I use the term 'african american' when speaking racially

it refers to my african ancestry, while narrowing it down to my AMERICAN culture/history



germanchoclate1981's photo
Sat 08/15/15 09:25 PM



Just looking at the title of the article, I have to ask:

Who said life was fair? Because guess what, it isn't.

It's not fairnessless. It's lawlessness. Nobody cares who gets picked last to play whiffle ball. Having a car crash and asking for help is not home invasion. Being seen walking unarmed and losing a one sided game of tazer tag when you're already in shock from a horrific crash is NEVER a reason for someone to be gunned down DEAD. That is amateur vigilanteism at best. This is proving to be policy that skips Miranda Law altogether when the suspect is black. It's not happening to Asians, its not happening to eastern Indians.

What would you do if a black man ran towards your car with a gun drawn and reached for your door to pull you out? You're not armed, you're driving slowly through your neighborhood. The guy pulls you out of the car and you struggle with him over the gun that goes off in the struggle. He never identiftied himself as an undercover Policeman. Would you fear for your life? What if it happened to your son or your brother? Do you think they would fear for their lives in that situation? Would you be upset if you survived it and had charges filed against you or them?


why would you expect that to happen? obviously there was a reason the cop was going for him, whether we know it or not... and how do you know the cop didn't identify himself? are the Asians or Indians causing problems? are they killing each other right and left? are they standing on the corners selling drugs? cops follow the crimes, period. if you live in a high crime area, then you should expect to be hassled by the police, who have a job to do STOPPING CRIME, in case you forget... where are the most crimes being committed? in the Asian or Indian communities or in the black communities?

so why should the cops be hassling the Asians or Indians?


Crimes happen in all communities. All communities aren't segregated either, it's just the level of force that's increased based on many reasons #1 being when the suspect is black or assumed to be black.
You're mixing up the 2 cases. The case you're referring to where the former FAMU football player was in the car crash and walking towards police is in trial here now, a year later. The officer who killed the VICTIM who HADN'T COMMITTED ANY CRIME was shot 10 times after being spotted walking injured inthe area of the crash. The officer posted $50,000 bail after the indictment and his lawyer pretty much vindicated him with his statement at the time. The Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police didn't share that sentiment. Read and watch for yourselves.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/05/us/charlotte-randall-kerrick-shooting-famu-jonathan-ferrell-trial/

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