Topic: Capital Punishment in the U.S.: Yes? No? How? | |
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Capital Punishment in the U.S.: Yes? No? How?
After the escape of two convicted murderers from a New York State prison, and the ~$Million $Dollar per $Day $manhunt they caused, there may be renewed attention on capital punishment. SCOTUS has wrestled with this and stumbled over functional fixedness. The infamous "3 drug (IV) cocktail" is a distraction. They're fadidilling over whether the executee feels a little pain (or whatever). How silly! We already KNOW that there are ways to die artificially that are so painless, the victim doesn't even know it. Carbon monoxide poisoning is classic example. Just drop a plastic bag over their head. Is that too tough? So what's really going on here? Are these guys really that stupid? Or is there some underlying issue; kickbacks to the pharmaceutical industry for example? note: This topic inspired by S2. |
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I dont know all the reasons everyone gives to approve or disapprove
certainly, concern for pain is in the list however, for me, Killing is killing, unless in immediate unprovoked self defense and I see anytime someone sets out a plan to end life,(with the possible exception of war where everyone involved has been made aware of the risks), they are in the wrong,,,and it is not their place ,,,just my opinion |
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SCOTUS has wrestled with this and stumbled
If the worry was pain, a 9mm round to the base of the skull should ease any concerns. One second the bad guy is alive, a cpl milliseconds later, he isnt.
over functional fixedness. The infamous "3 drug (IV) cocktail" is a distraction. They're fadidilling over whether the executee feels a little pain (or whatever). But the problem with the death penalty now is the endless (seemingly) appeals process...and the people cleared of wrong doing by DNA. Surely now, we can come up with a set of standards on which the guilty can be given a death sentence. DNA, multiple witnesses to the crime, etc....that could forego the numerous appeals. For those who think the death penalty, in any form, is inhumane, I ask what you think an appropriate punishment is in this case...... "" A mother is under arrest after allegedly allowing her boyfriend to rape her infant child, causing the child to die. Jessica Lynn Howell, 25, of St. Charles County, Missouri, was arrested in connection with the death of her four-month-old daughter, Ashlynn Lilith Peters. Ashlynn died December 3, 2012. Originally Howell was not charged as she claimed innocence in the attack, but prosecutors say text messages between Howell and her boyfriend Jordan Lafayette Prince are conclusive and damning. Prince has been in custody awaiting trial for the murder of Ashlynn Lilith Peters for several months, and has a past history of sexual abuse which Howell admits to knowing. In an apparent attempt to spice up their relationship, Howell offered to allow Prince the opportunity to sexually molest her daughter. According to the local reporting of fox2now.com St. Charles Prosecuting Attorney Tim Lohmar said: " In those text messages she suggested and encouraged some unspeakable things. It is very, very disturbing." While the text messages between the two suspects have not been released, the official police report tells a gruesome story about the condition little Ashlynn was found: " Ashlynn was sexually assaulted causing multiple tears to her anus, a massive laceration to her rectum with massive hematoma in the area of the pelvis. The injuries to the anus and rectum of Ashlynn were sufficient to eventually cause her death even without strangulation." Beyond the rape that caused Ashlynn to stop breathing, she was also beaten: " Ashlynn was also the victim of blunt force trauma to the left side of her head causing a laceration to her ear and a hemorrhage near her skull." http://www.examiner.com/article/infant-dies-after-being-raped-mother-encouraged-the-attack-and-watched |
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life imprisonment
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life imprisonment #ChildRapistAndKillersLivesMatter amirite?! Kidding! |
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life imprisonment #ChildRapistAndKillersLivesMatter amirite?! Kidding! lol no hashtag movement here,, but yeah, I do believe life matters,,even those of the most 'awful' people |
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SCOTUS has wrestled with this and stumbled over functional fixedness.
It kind of has to. I don't think SCOTUS has a say on what methods are used. Only in determining if the methods being used are legal. Only in determining if the methods being used represent "cruel and unusual punishment." I don't believe they're allowed to say "this is what we believe to be non cruel and unusual punishment death. Do it this way instead. You have to do it this way." So what's really going on here?
Are these guys really that stupid? No one is as stupid as you think they are. No one is as smart as they think they are. What's really going on here are a bunch of fallible people trying to do what they believe to be right, and their duty, while giving at least the appearance that they're following impartial rules. Or is there some underlying issue; kickbacks to the pharmaceutical industry for example?
I don't think SCOTUS would be getting those so much as prison wardens or state representatives that are maintaining the death penalty. |
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