I do believe THIS is the very reason he was so hostile! He was embarrassed and hasn't learned to laugh at himself!

This might also be the reason he resigned - the rest of the guys would never have let him live this down!

HAHAHAHA funny i was thinking the same thing. "maybe he was so agitated cuz he just busted his @$$ in front of everyone"

i know i would have been embarrassed hahaha

"Social media" is always running crazy.
"Social media" is just a bunch of chickens squawking.
The 21st century equivalent to old ladies gossiping over the clothesline.

Just adding videos and pictures to gossip still makes it gossip, not truth.

"Social media" looks for reasons to get incensed and will listen to any one that confirms their bias, all for a false sense of power and importance, especially when they get to go forth and play inside knowledge man and tell people what's "really" going on.

Anytime you come up on or behind a Law Enforcement Officer handcuffing someone your asking for trouble. I don't care if you are 15 or 50, let alone running up on one.

Once they backed off he holstered his weapon. I don't see the problem here.

I know if my partner or I are handcuffing someone and someone comes running up behind one of us, it is a REALLY bad day for that person.

I know that when my call was to clear a crowd, I cleared a crowd. I didn't incite people by scream expletives and shoving them around.

Care to guess the result? People left the area. Did some of them "talk shite" while they left the area? Yes - so what?

Anybody that ran up BESIDE me then backed away when I looked at them didn't stop me from what I was doing to walk over and menace them with my firearm until they ran away.

Furthermore, why didn't he draw his weapon on the two girls who actually grabbed hold of his arm (they were obstructing and assaulting a LEO) PRIOR to the two boys, who never touched him, entering the frame?

BTW - he was not handcuffing her, he was manhandling her. One of the other officers who returned from chasing down and busting the mouth of one of the menaced boys did.



No, that is not true. He drew his weapon AFTER they backed off and did not holster it until well after they fled out of sight and after his fellow officers gave chase.

Being said, if he did in fact think they posed a threat to his life and possessed a weapon, didn't they just take priority over the sassy girl he returned to sit on when they ran off?

Wasn't their "threat to society" greater than that of a girl who had merely been trespassing?

RIDICULOUS

Interesting reading all these opinions about a scenario that 'NONE' of us were actual witness to---but a limited scope of events by a bystander's phone recording!

And with the prior knowledge of 2 members: Lpdon & Regularfellow having had experience in this line of work...even then there's a wide range of opinions on the method that this officer used!

But here's my question: do either of you think that the number of years between your employment and now --- hasn't there been a upsurge in lack of respect in our youth of America?

1. they were told that the number of 'allowed' humans in the pool area had already been met; didn't stop a select few that argued/jumped the fence and disregarded the directive

2. there were more than 1-2 officers arriving on scene; there were some fighting in progress - there had been several phone calls into 911 --- Why would any of those teenagers rush towards officers instead of backing off & away as they had been instructed to do and previously by some adult residents too?

Lack of respect for our elders {IMHO} seems to be pervasive and a problem especially in crowd control issues!

there are two issues


1, kids have been fed a new narrative about elders needing to 'earn' their respect,,and therefore aren't so quick to just give it


2. people , with the advent of cell phone cameras,, have seen with their own eyes that police accounts arent always what they claim they are and that police can be bullies and thugs too


so,,,people, including kids, are quicker to step in in situations with cops who appear to be overstepping their bounds or stepping on the rights of others



they may be risking their own, or they may be saving others,,, its never easy to tell,,,,

True...there's always a fine line of what is right and what is legal within the written letter of our laws! We see this dilemma far too often now that everyone has access to a phone/recording device! Is this video method making us better humans?
I'm conflicted about that.

2OLD aka OL' 2PAC,

There has been a huge upswing in the lack of respect for the humanity of others by people of ALL ages.

Believe it or not, ALL people are becoming increasingly psychopathic sociopaths.

Doubt me? Take a drive down any highway during rush hour. Write a check at the grocery check out. State your opinion in a forum thread.

People do not respect LEOs as they did when we were kids, often for good reason. LEOs do not respect people as they once did, often for NO good reason. Just because gang bangers in South Central Los Angeles are violent doesn't translate to the need for police in Podunk, Iowa (sorry Iowans) to armor up and verbally/physically abuse juveniles for running through old man Johnson's corn field.

You don't command respect by demanding respect.

You don't command respect by abusing your authority.

You don't command respect by screaming like banshees and shouting expletives.

You don't command respect by physically assaulting others.

You don't command respect by insulting Iowans.

All these things do conjure are resentment and fear. And a scared man (or woman) has a greater potential to be dangerous.

The young have youthful minds. They saw their friend being assaulted and wanted to intervene. Understandable. But reason overpowered their instinct. Good. They left the area. That WAS the objective. Why chase them down and bring one back bleeding? I can't fathom a good reason for that.

When it is your job to protect others and maintain order, you assume risk to your personal safety. It doesn't make your life and well being any more valuable than anyone else's. It certainly doesn't grant you privilege to inflame a situation and incite a crowd. If it did, that would be......

RIDICULOUS.

I think the cops over re-acted. The kids were dis-respectful. Bad combo.

DING DING DING!

Give this man a prize!

Not sure what that "aka ol' 2PAC" means but I'll take it as a 'NON-INSULT'

Back to the thread...yes, we seem to get fed daily some instance where our local police/SWAT teams have gone astray from any common sense >>>
http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=90119&siteSection=ndn&videoId=29195310
and what they did to this mans home in Colorado - while in the search for a 'SHOP LIFTER' goes beyond the whelm of reality! IMHO

IMHO - this seems to have increased with the date/time line for the 'War On Drugs'; our law enforcement became a 'Military Armed' work force with a 'Military Mindset'...but someone neglected to warn the public!

It was no insult...just giving you "props" as an "OG" (original gangster) veteran of life.

Excuse me while I give myself a and a

2 PAC...as in the rapper dude; sorry, I thought it was an acronym for something else

Excuse me.........while I kiss the sky!

You are right on every count here, but the harm to our society is much greater than a bunch of old ladies gossiping over the clothesline.

A large group of ignorant people spreading lies that confirm their insane biases not only harms our entire democracy on levels no seen before the internet, it also leads to people getting hurt and even killed.

The rule of a mob mentality is becoming more commonplace.

Exactly. This particular police officer, in this particular situation, had every reason to believe there was a threat to his safety. He holstered his weapon _immediately_ after that threat was removed.

The other commenters are changing the topic: Racists are fanning flames of hatred, fueling it with lies. He did NOT pull his gun on the girl, not in the least.

Said the person with an obvious bias....


And even old Monty Python movies will confirm that sthe reason for this is that mob mentality is being provoked by hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society.

And furthermore, supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. ***


***disregard the word aquatic.

Someone please, pretty please, explain to me how the bikini girl was more important than a young man who posed such a significant threat as to cause this officer to leave the girl, approach the two youths, draw his weapon, watch them flee, holster his weapon and turn around and kneel on her back.

He brandished that weapon for the sole purpose of menacing those two young men. Whether he is a racist or not doesn't matter. But we ALL know, including this officer, there is nothing more frightening to a young black man than a cop pointing a gun at him.

If the "threat" was so "credible" why did his compatriots NOT bring their arms to bear?

And you have yet to explain why he did not point his gun at the two girls that actually grabbed and pulled his arm, a criminal act, prior to these young men arriving in the frame.

I don't mind haggling perceptions of truth but don't ignore half of the information at your disposal.

What is my bias?