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Topic: THE SKY ROCKETING PRICE OF EGGS...
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Wed 06/10/15 06:54 PM
The alternative is to not produce the meat/eggs to feed the 370 million people in this country. But Moe may be right. Nothing like a little commodity market manipulation to dramatically raise prices and profits.

By the way, and I should be wearing my tinfoil hat and sending this to each of you individually encrypted, but 6 tbsps of boiled lentils has the same amount of protein as one egg...and a one pound bag costs about .60 to 1.50 depending on what store you like.

Just an alternative...AND it has zero cholesterol, fat, sodium (unless you add some salt) and nearly 4 times the potassium.

See, I ain't just all jokes and antics. bigsmile

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Wed 06/10/15 06:57 PM
My once a month 18-pack has went from $1.98 two months ago to $2.49 now at the Wally World Fresh Market. I usually cut back in thehotter months though...and eat more fruit for breakfast

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Thu 06/11/15 08:32 AM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Thu 06/11/15 08:33 AM

For Bakers And Restaurants, Egg Supply Is Getting Ugly
June 10, 2015 5:01 AM ET

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/06/10/413206232/for-bakers-and-restaurants-egg-supply-is-getting-ugly?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150610

Tony Lordi sighs as he reaches into the pocket of his white uniform pants and pulls out his iPhone.

These days, Lordi, the production manager at Judy's Bakery in Kansas City, Mo., checks with his supplier every day. He needs to know the price of what's become liquid gold for commercial bakers: "liquid egg."

"The market's like gas prices at this point," he says.

Rarely heard of outside the food industry, liquid egg is used for dozens of things, from cakes and cookies to mayonnaise and lots of breakfast dishes. On this day, Lordi learns that the price of a 30-pound bucket of liquid egg is $79.24 – more than double what it was in May.

Lordi sighs again – he reads out loud the latest text from his supplier: "He says, 'Very ugly situation headed our way. We ordered 900 buckets of eggs and got 70. They're telling us as of July first, we get zero.' So when my guy that I buy all my eggs from tells me that, what do I do?"

Commercial bakers and restaurants have been hard hit by the shortage of liquid egg, made scarce because of the largest outbreak of avian influenza to ever hit the U.S.

"I think the product is out there. You're just going to have to pay for it," says Brian Moscogiuri, an egg industry analyst with Urner Barry. "That's the bottom line. That's supply and demand."

Liquid egg prices have shot up 240 percent since early May, when the outbreak began spreading quickly across the Midwest, Moscogiuri says. The center of the lethal bird flu outbreak was in Iowa, the country's largest egg-producing state. Most of the 47 million birds killed so far because of the outbreak were part of "breaker" operations, an on-farm process in which chickens lay the eggs, which are then broken, liquefied, frozen or dried.

The outbreak is affecting grocery store shell eggs, too. In some part of the country the price has tripled, with a carton of a dozen peaking at $3. One Texas grocery chain is rationing eggs.

The price spikes come even as agriculture officials believe the outbreak is slowing. On Tuesday, the first turkey farm that was infected got back online in Minnesota. But on Monday, the first case of bird flu was reported in Michigan, with a Canada goose testing positive for the disease.

The outbreak of highly pathogenic H5N2 flu has now spread to 21 states, infecting 298 sites. Scientists watching the spread are surprised at how quickly the virus has moved, especially since it's historically known to be more contagious in the fall.

The outbreak comes at an unfortunate time for the egg industry, which has enjoyed record per capita consumption during the last few years, Moscogiuri says, thanks to popular protein diets.

"Eggs were really becoming the good guy in the protein industry," he says.

Fast-food chains are also taking a hit, just as some are adding or extending breakfast hours. Yet most companies haven't increased prices to compensate, because they have fixed-price menus, says Todd Kuethe, an agricultural economist at the University of Illinois.

"The price of your Egg McMuffin is not going to change, but McDonald's input change on that has gone up considerably in the past month," he says.

Prices for wholesale eggs doubled in May, while prices for shell eggs in grocery stores have also risen.

A quarter of McDonald's revenue comes from that first meal of the day — business so good that the global chain is testing an all-day breakfast menu. But the outbreak has not affected McDonald's supplies, says company spokeswoman Lisa McComb. She says McDonald's is using its regular suppliers, and its contingency plans are always in place.

"Our ability to provide our customers eggs is not impacted," McComb wrote in an email. "McDonald's is not finding new sources for eggs, nor are we making changes to how we source eggs."

Kuethe and others are optimistic that the worst of the outbreak is over, because the number of bird flu cases has slowed in the last few weeks. Egg prices will likely go down – but not for months, as the flocks are being rebuilt. The infected farms have to sit idle for six weeks after the birds are destroyed, and young hens – called pullets – don't begin laying eggs until they're about five months old.

Supplies are also supposed to grow somewhat from new imports from the Netherlands, which the U.S. Department of Agriculture approved last week. The only other country that imports eggs to the U.S. is Canada, but officials have said they may open up trade to other countries if supplies continue to remain tight.


Rebuilding their flocks; from chick to layer takes 5 months of just care & feeding...the loss of so many egg layers is going to take time! But if you find good prices now buy those eggs and treat them as 'Liquid Eggs: crack and whip {scramble} they can be frozen like this in ice cube trays {2 cubes = 1 egg for recipes} or freeze the scrambled liquid in freezer zipper bags and mark the outside - 6 eggs/12 dozen

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Thu 06/11/15 08:49 AM
This thread opens up a whole new question for science.

What came first, the chicken or the brown egg or the white egg.

ohwell frustrated

Sorry 2old.

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Thu 06/18/15 07:01 PM

My once a month 18-pack has went from $1.98 two months ago to $2.49 now at the Wally World Fresh Market. I usually cut back in thehotter months though...and eat more fruit for breakfast
Just got back with my 18-pack and it went up to $4.98. A dozen was $3.19.

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Thu 06/18/15 07:09 PM
frown OUCH!!! I've been getting phone calls about my eggs; word has spread and 2 restaurants have been begging me 2 sell only to them:wink:

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Fri 06/19/15 08:33 AM
Note:
I bought a few 18 packs just before price-hikes.

But it turns out, raw eggs keep under refrigeration about five times as long as hard-boiled eggs.

Though it may be less energy efficient, it may be best to only hard-boil them about a week in advance.

If hard-boiled too far in advance, the whites go gooey.

PS
When hard-boiling eggs, does the yoke end up with a dark outside, not healthy yellow like the inside?

PBS America's Test Kitchen says, that's from over-cooking; a formation of sulfur compounds reacting between yoke and white; and the way to avoid it is to not overcook them.

Under-cooking them is a bad idea.
But cooking them so the yokes are fully cooked, but only yellow may be the more aesthetic presentation.

And hard-boiled eggs still warm from cooking are nearly as tasty as soft-boiled eggs.

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Fri 06/19/15 08:42 AM
LTme posted >>>
Note:
I bought a few 18 packs just before price-hikes.

But it turns out, raw eggs keep under refrigeration about five times as long as hard-boiled eggs.

Though it may be less energy efficient, it may be best to only hard-boil them about a week in advance.

If hard-boiled too far in advance, the whites go gooey.

PS
When hard-boiling eggs, does the yoke end up with a dark outside, not healthy yellow like the inside?

PBS America's Test Kitchen says, that's from over-cooking; a formation of sulfur compounds reacting between yoke and white; and the way to avoid it is to not overcook them.

Under-cooking them is a bad idea.
But cooking them so the yokes are fully cooked, but only yellow may be the more aesthetic presentation.

And hard-boiled eggs still warm from cooking are nearly as tasty as soft-boiled eggs.


Why aren't you just scrambling them and freezing that 'liquid' egg mixture in ice cube trays? 2 cubes = 1 egg for any recipe.
"LIQUIDFIED" eggs is what most restaurants/food service places order the most quantity in...they use very little 'CRACK EGG' per order.

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Fri 06/19/15 09:17 AM
"Why aren't you just scrambling them and freezing that 'liquid' egg mixture in ice cube trays? 2 cubes = 1 egg for any recipe.
"LIQUIDFIED" eggs is what most restaurants/food service places order the most quantity in...they use very little 'CRACK EGG' per order." 2A

Thanks 2A.

I like your style.
"The neurotic has suspicions, the psychotic has convictions. psychiatrist Thomas Szasz

Thank you for asking, instead of assuming.

To answer, several reasons.

a) I live alone, in a tower, in the forest, ~70 miles round-trip from shopping.
My refrigerator is small, and the freezer unreliable; it shuts down in Winter, so I use it only for bottles of H2O. When the commercial power fails, I move the ice into the refrigerator, so I don't have to fire up the generator (for the first few hours).

b) We get commercial power failures here. We had two yesterday, the latter lasing hours. So frozen food here risks peril, particularly in my tiny freezer, that non-frozen refrigerated food does not.

c) Some of my neighbors live off the grid. And one of them told me eggs don't need refrigeration, and that she kept them out of direct sunlight, under the kitchen sink, without spoilage problem.
I don't remember how long she said they last that way, but she seems to think it's adequate.

d) While I like eggs prepared in a skillet, my kitchen isn't well suited to it. It's easier to boil them, and just grab a few hard-boiled ones when I need a snack.

e) While viable, I suspect me implementing your suggestion would result in a net increase in man-hours per egg.
I like simplicity, and durability. My way, no need to wash ice cube trays, do all the prep work, etc.
And my way is less mess. No liquids exposed, except the water they boil in.
I just boil them, and put them in the fridge. The next step is eating them.
mmmm yummy !

PS
If some of that still doesn't make sense, I used to do some efficiency work (Sir Fredrick Winslow Taylor type stuff) for a Fortune 500.
I like efficiency.

My previous two "cars" were trucks.
But I prefer my simple, comfortable, economical car.



It's a wonderful car for two, for a day trip, or whatever.

I could ride a Harley. But my Yamaha is a 250cc.
It's a wonderful machine, and I've gotten over 90 MPG with it.

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Fri 06/19/15 09:25 AM
NP...I have a couple of dear friends {off the grid rural AK} and they were unaware about freezing eggs. They have found a location for the powdered type for emergency back up too.

Living with faulty/fluctuation power sources is tricky.drinker

Several friends were well paid nannies/tutors over seas --- Saudi Arabia was a trial & error place to learn how to schedule a meal plan around their set time for power! LOL

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Fri 06/19/15 09:42 AM
Yes 2A,
I probably mislead.

My commercial power provider used to be called "Niagara - Mohawk", named for the hydro-electric assets that served them.

It was bought out several year ago (ironically by an international entity) by National Grid.

Since the acquisition, commercial power failures here are both less frequent, and of shorter duration.

I've equipped my home with an "uninterruptible power supply" (UPS). So even when the commercial power fails, my lights stay on.

I don't like to waste food. So much of what I eat either doesn't require refrigeration (pasta, canned chicken or canned vegetables) or is purchased in small enough quantities to limit risk.

But I enjoy potato salad, so risk it sometimes:



Mmmmmm yummy !!

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