Men and women in competition for jobs..both out to proove how smart,educated and motivated they are. Hyphenated names,seperate bank accounts and each one voicing loudly how important they are,how under appreciated they feel and pointing finger blame at each other

Maybe this is the root of my "dating" problems - my old parents had the audacity to remain married for over 50 continuous years with mom staying home and caring for the family and house as well as holding a united front in discipline, assignment of work details, and expectations of deportment.

We might have visited a fast food restaurant once or twice A YEAR!

No wonder I cain't get along with an ol gal what ain't no account at cookin up some fried taters, beans and biscuits!

I got sister in law who announced to her husband one day that she was no longer going to do the cooking..or the laundry and that my brother needed to work more hours or ask for raise so they could hire a maid. They lived in middle class home with four kids in school. She was.stay at home mother. I asked her once what she did all day long since it was obvious to me it was not the dishes or grocery shopping since my brother stopped for fast food on way home every night to feed his kids.
she talked to people on phone and sat around pool and went shopping

Oh and yes I defintely think that concept of a lady still exists, but what is nice about current times is that ladies can act goofy if they want to, we can throw on some jeans and throw down in the sandlot if we want to....and then lady up later :)

But on the inside a lady does not change much even when she throws down :)

It's also possible to be accepted and successful if one does not meet the old fashioned definition of a lady. So as women we have that freedom. I cringe at the same things you do sometimes T, but our freedoms I value.....smile :)

excellent post IMO fellar. I remember the looks I'd get as a stay at home mom....and then when I did try to work all of the HR departments I encountered treated me as if I had done "nothing: for 17 years

yes it does exist. And there is nothing more sexier they a lady. And yes, gentlemen do exist. They do open the doors for woman of any color.. and age,Give up their seat on a bus, help them upstairs with groceries or offer to fix their lawn mower, change a flat tire or check their fuse box when the lights go out.

Yes, they do most certainly exist.

Born and raised in Michigan but we moved out to Nebraska in 95 and lived there for four years in small town. People were nice and stop and talk to you on way by or call if your dog got loose or plow your driveway if they were out doing theirs. Maybe because it was small town and mid west. Up here? Dog eat dog mentality most time..everybody so busy minding their own bizness and taking care of their own they don't even know who their neighbors are and certainly would not go out their way to help

RF my grandparents on both sides made it til death do us part but for some reason when the 70's came along most my aunts/uncles and my parents got divorced..must of been the 'in' thing

Well years ago everyone had big family's. Certainly here in the UK anyway.
It was a common joke amongst people that the reason for the huge family's was because there was no TV back then.
Could the emergence of TV,s have anything to do with it.

A long shot I know, but then so was an apple falling on Newtons head.

You think shrinkage of nuclear family due to tv? Hmmmm well I have heard it due to changes from rural out in farm to urban and since so many kids were not needed to run farm anymore people stopped having thirteen of them better medical care meant we were not losing them in infancy. since 1950's home have gotten larger but average amount of kids has gotten smaller
Annual income averages increase,length marriage decrease

Of course we also saw onset sexual revolution and increase in divorce rates and as it became more common place it lost its taboo rating. what used to be 'normal' for many of us growing up now seems to be the exception and no longer the rule

which brings me full circle back to this notion of being lady/gentleman and manners and common decency in this fast food/fast times world

I don't know to be honest. Probably a number of things.
One thing that is noticeable is how kids spend more time in their rooms playing video games etc.

I wonder if modern technology is making people, including spouses, drift apart. Or some at least.

Interesting topic
Myself I don't think in terms of "Ladies " or " Gentleman" . I have a multi faceted personality * technicaly we all do * So I see everyone that way.
The ONLY time it occurs to me, is if I perceive a total lack of it," ladylike/ gentleman like " to the point
of passing judgement * and I'm trying to control it *
There are MANY famous people, actresses, politicians that I would never refer to as 'ladies & gentlemen'. Because I find their past or present behavior so appalling that I view them as ' criminal' & probably beyond redemption.
Needless to say... the endless apologies & excuses in the media mean, absolutely nothing to me.
People should give each other 'basic' respect, until WE decide they lost it or deserve more. IMO.
So to me- Gender, money,class, age, power, title, religion, culture etc., means nothing as far as respect... Either they are a good person or not. Either they treat people or me with respect or not.
So obviously I see it as black & white with little room for gray.
But life has taught me to trust my instincts & my 1st, 2nd & 3rd impressions of people, & NOT the opinions of others.
Ten people or a million could say someone is a gentleman or a lady or a good person... but if I don't see it, I don't see it.
IMO, it is a matter of perception & judgment. And we all have our own values & moral code.

Could have been the growth of two car garage and more mobility. could very well have been a tv in every home and tv dinners and tv stands and no more "how was your day" conversations around dinner table

This is pretty much what I was trying to say.

I've never been much good at making myself clear lmao.
Which is probably part of the problem too

Technology is to blame!

I'm not being facetious, either.

Look at it - in a twist of irony, social media has allowed us to turn into the most antisocial, narcissistic, beings we can be.

Sorry I wasn't listening I was busy posting a selfie on facebook and telling all my fans what time I woke up and what I ate for breakfast cause its all about me...duh later on I plan on going out to eat cause lawdy knows I deserve it and then be rude to my server and spend entire meal staring at my phone

I think we lost of lot of the "Ladies, and Gentlemen" aspect of life when we decided to battle for supremacy of genders. I have never figured the why's of it. I didn't sign up for that battle and I refuse to engage in it.

Sure the list as I see it should never have been battled. Here is just a couple of them.

equal work equal pay
Sharing of chores when one wasn't able to perform them
I.E. if hubby gone move the lawn,wife sick cook a meal...

I raised my boys to be a gentlemen not push over's but to cherish their ladies, I raised my girls to be ladies but not a hot house flower, get your hands dirty no shame in it.

To me, call me old fashion I enjoy being a woman in all aspects, I enjoy a man being a man in all aspects.. No stereotyping just being who we are...


My grandparents were southerners. I mean old genteel type of people they were married 75 years and well I have to say I have always modeled my life after them. Some of my greatest joys growing up was the way they treated each other. The love, respect, friendship, helping one another, and the kindness they always showed to each other was my guide in how I interacted with all people.
My parents they taught me what I didn't want out of life. They taught me I had no desire to jump on the band wagon of " I am woman hear me roar", in saying that I know I am self sufficient, I don't have to shout it.

To quote our youth who are representative of the future - "True Dat!"