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Topic: Huge Republic of Ireland vote for gay marriage
karmafury's photo
Sat 05/23/15 07:52 PM
The Republic of Ireland has voted overwhelmingly to legalise same-sex marriage in a historic referendum.

More than 62% voted in favour of amending the country's constitution to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry.

It is the first country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage through a popular vote.

Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny said it was a "small country with a big message for equality" around the world.

The referendum was held 22 years after homosexual acts were decriminalised in the Republic of Ireland.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32858501

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Sat 05/23/15 09:01 PM
That's great. Just keep it in their bedroom.frown

CallMeMB's photo
Sat 05/23/15 10:17 PM

That's great. Just keep it in their bedroom.frown


As long as everyone else does the same!!!

glasses

karmafury's photo
Sat 05/23/15 11:16 PM
For a nation that has always been very conservative this is very surprising though.

germanchoclate1981's photo
Sat 05/23/15 11:21 PM
A Modest Proposal is not in the least bit conservative, nor are the Irish. They are a very proud small island country whose nature and their neighbors have given them hell.

Fred7170's photo
Sun 05/24/15 01:04 AM
Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh

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Sun 05/24/15 01:21 AM

Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh

I wonder if you realize how pathetic your comment sounds.
Probably not because morons usually don't.

As for the vote, the people have had their say.
I can understand that some people won't agree but hurtful comments do no one any good.



Fred7170's photo
Sun 05/24/15 01:42 AM


Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh

I wonder if you realize how pathetic your comment sounds.
Probably not because morons usually don't.

As for the vote, the people have had their say.
I can understand that some people won't agree but hurtful comments do no one any good.





I and a few other people had a good laugh, that's what matters. To each their own, Freedom of Speech, baby. Go ahead and be at awe at some piece of paper that says what one can and cannot do but you can never ever take away the song in my heart.

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Sun 05/24/15 01:45 AM



Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh

I wonder if you realize how pathetic your comment sounds.
Probably not because morons usually don't.

As for the vote, the people have had their say.
I can understand that some people won't agree but hurtful comments do no one any good.





I and a few other people had a good laugh, that's what matters. To each their own, Freedom of Speech, baby. Go ahead and be at awe at some piece of paper that says what one can and cannot do but you can never ever take away the song in my heart.

Your profile says you're a consultant. You need to start acting like one.

Fred7170's photo
Sun 05/24/15 01:54 AM




Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh

I wonder if you realize how pathetic your comment sounds.
Probably not because morons usually don't.

As for the vote, the people have had their say.
I can understand that some people won't agree but hurtful comments do no one any good.





I and a few other people had a good laugh, that's what matters. To each their own, Freedom of Speech, baby. Go ahead and be at awe at some piece of paper that says what one can and cannot do but you can never ever take away the song in my heart.

Your profile says you're a consultant. You need to start acting like one.



offtopic :laughing: spock

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Sun 05/24/15 02:40 AM




Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh

I wonder if you realize how pathetic your comment sounds.
Probably not because morons usually don't.

As for the vote, the people have had their say.
I can understand that some people won't agree but hurtful comments do no one any good.





I and a few other people had a good laugh, that's what matters. To each their own, Freedom of Speech, baby. Go ahead and be at awe at some piece of paper that says what one can and cannot do but you can never ever take away the song in my heart.

Your profile says you're a consultant. You need to start acting like one.


There are those who can't show candor in their approach so they choose to castigate instead, for me it shows who is educated and who is not.

You young lady have a beautiful heart and soul and I'm glad you chose not to carry on in this topic.

Shine on you crazy diamond.





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Sun 05/24/15 02:45 AM

For a nation that has always been very conservative this is very surprising though.

Which is WHY I made a thread SIX hours, BEFORE yours... the 62.1% is shocking. * I'm trying to find out how it effects 2 Ireland's major groups. *

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Sun 05/24/15 02:52 AM


For a nation that has always been very conservative this is very surprising though.

Which is WHY I made a thread SIX hours, BEFORE yours... the 62.1% is shocking. * I'm trying to find out how it effects 2 Ireland's major groups. *

Shocking, not sure what you mean in this context.
Google what the bishop of Dublin said about the vote.
I tend to agree with him in that older people need to understand that society has changed.

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Sun 05/24/15 03:02 AM



For a nation that has always been very conservative this is very surprising though.

Which is WHY I made a thread SIX hours, BEFORE yours... the 62.1% is shocking. * I'm trying to find out how it effects 2 Ireland's major groups. *

Shocking, not sure what you mean in this context.
Google what the bishop of Dublin said about the vote.
I tend to agree with him in that older people need to understand that society has changed.

I know you don't, & that's okay but thanks for trying anyway. flowers

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/24/15 07:13 AM

Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh


bad comparison,, pets cant consent

this is about the 'right' of all adults to be able to marry

so, its more likely the next agenda will be adult incest,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 05/24/15 07:20 AM


Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh


bad comparison,, pets cant consent

this is about the 'right' of all adults to be able to marry

so, its more likely the next agenda will be adult incest,,,,

yep,like Tobacco is the Gateway-Drug to smoking Pot?laugh

metalwing's photo
Sun 05/24/15 07:27 AM
A good friend of mine is lesbian and married. She and I were having a conversation about gay marriage recently (I am straight). I expressed the view that gay marriage (maybe marriage in general) isn't something which the politicians at the federal level should be concerning themselves. She agreed.

The problem isn't whether they should allow gay marriage but whether they should have any say-so into that level of our personal lives.

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/24/15 07:33 AM



Next on the agenda:

Bestiality rights, because if you really love your pet you should marry it. laugh


bad comparison,, pets cant consent

this is about the 'right' of all adults to be able to marry

so, its more likely the next agenda will be adult incest,,,,

yep,like Tobacco is the Gateway-Drug to smoking Pot?laugh



no, not like that at all

one is an assumption about the physical body

the other is an observation about the LEGAL system and the flow of an legal precedent once it is set


msharmony's photo
Sun 05/24/15 07:35 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/24/15 07:38 AM

A good friend of mine is lesbian and married. She and I were having a conversation about gay marriage recently (I am straight). I expressed the view that gay marriage (maybe marriage in general) isn't something which the politicians at the federal level should be concerning themselves. She agreed.

The problem isn't whether they should allow gay marriage but whether they should have any say-so into that level of our personal lives.


the moment it becomes a political issue/agenda,, there is no more question about whether the 'feds' should get involved

its kind of like DEMANDING that they do

not get involved is what they were doing before the fight to pass a new law/definition of marriage


this is saying 'hey feds, time to force people to accept and accomodate our lifestyle'



so, if we must remove all 'special privileges' from those who have been traditionally married and make everything 'equal'

I still believe we should create civil unions,, which take no consideration of ones physical lusts and desires and only considers the wish of any two adults in ANY TYPE of relationship to share certain legal rights and responsibilities


then feds can only be involved with the truly civil right side, overlook those contracts/unions with no regard to sexual lifestyle

and everyone can be sexually with whomever they please without it needed to be forced upon or the concern of anyone else,,,

metalwing's photo
Sun 05/24/15 07:51 AM


A good friend of mine is lesbian and married. She and I were having a conversation about gay marriage recently (I am straight). I expressed the view that gay marriage (maybe marriage in general) isn't something which the politicians at the federal level should be concerning themselves. She agreed.

The problem isn't whether they should allow gay marriage but whether they should have any say-so into that level of our personal lives.


the moment it becomes a political issue/agenda,, there is no more question about whether the 'feds' should get involved

its kind of like DEMANDING that they do

not get involved is what they were doing before the fight to pass a new law/definition of marriage


this is saying 'hey feds, time to force people to accept and accomodate our lifestyle'



so, if we must remove all 'special privileges' from those who have been traditionally married and make everything 'equal'

I still believe we should create civil unions,, which take no consideration of ones physical lusts and desires and only considers the wish of any two adults in ANY TYPE of relationship to share certain legal rights and responsibilities


then feds can only be involved with the truly civil right side, overlook those contracts/unions with no regard to sexual lifestyle

and everyone can be sexually with whomever they please without it needed to be forced upon or the concern of anyone else,,,


No, all countries are different. Ours, the US, is a constitutional limited government. The tenth amendment regulates non-federal matters to the the States or to the People.

If the Federal government sticks it's nose into something that is none of it's business, it is the Supreme Court's duty to remove it from Federal review and return the matter to State or personal control.

"The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] It expresses the principle of federalism, which undergirds the entire plan of the original Constitution, by stating that the federal government possesses only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution. All remaining powers are reserved for the states or the people. In drafting this amendment, its framers had two purposes in mind: first, as a necessary rule of construction; and second, as a reaffirmation of the nature of the federal system."

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