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Topic: NBC -To Air 2-Part 'Transgender Kids'
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Thu 04/23/15 07:18 PM

Children are sexualied the moment they are born (sometimes earlier with ultrasound imaging) It is the first thing we ask...is it a boy or a girl?? As if this is the most important thing about this new person. Then we proceed to dress them differently, talk to them differently and treat them differently.
I read a story about a family who did not divulge the sex of their child when it was born and gave it an ambiguous name. They wanted to see how the child developed without pressure to behave one way or another. Not sure how successful they were as I haven't seen any follow up stories.
Of course males and females are different and think differently with a wide spectrum of behaviors. But I wonder what the world would be like, if we focused more on people as individuals first and obsessed less with their sex. Perhaps people would be able to unfold their resulting sexuality without pressure to perform a certain way and have more freedom to express themselves (in so many areas of their life).
It also might allow those who are born intersexed (happens more than you think)and their families live a less pressured life and make unfortunate decisions.
Just a thought...flowerforyou


" It also may allow those who are born intersected ( happens more than you think) ..... "

Intersex is EXTREMELY rare (& physically & physiologicaly BOTH sexes). Do you mean another terminology?


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Thu 04/23/15 07:26 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Thu 04/23/15 07:34 PM
I had to look this up also; shocked that this does happen more in births then I had even thought imaginable...WOW.

How common is intersex?

To answer this question in an uncontroversial way, you'd have to first get everyone to agree on what counts as intersex ��and also to agree on what should count as strictly male or strictly female. That'��s hard to do. How small does a penis have to be before it counts as intersex? Do you count ��sex chromosome�� anomalies as intersex if there's no apparent external sexual ambiguity? 1 (Alice Dreger explores this question in greater depth in her book Hermaphrodites and the Medical Invention of Sex.)

Here'��s what we do know: If you ask experts at medical centers how often a child is born so noticeably atypical in terms of genitalia that a specialist in sex differentiation is called in,the number comes out to about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births. But a lot more people than that are born with subtler forms of sex anatomy variations, some of which won'��t show up until later in life.

Below we provide a summary of statistics drawn from an article by Brown University researcher Anne Fausto-Sterling. 2 The basis for that article was an extensive review of the medical literature from 1955 to 1998 aimed at producing numeric estimates for the frequency of sex variations. Note that the frequency of some of these conditions, such as congenital adrenal hyperplasia, differs for different populations. These statistics are approximations.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births

Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births

Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births

Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births

Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births

Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals

Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births

Ovotestes one in 83,000 births

Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births

Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin
administered to pregnant mother) no estimate

5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate

Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate

Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births

Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births

Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births

Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births

Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births

http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency



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Thu 04/23/15 07:49 PM
Edited by SassyEuro on Thu 04/23/15 07:50 PM

I had to look this up also; shocked that this does happen more in births then I had even thought imaginable...WOW.

How common is intersex?

To answer this question in an uncontroversial way, you'd have to first get everyone to agree on what counts as intersex ��and also to agree on what should count as strictly male or strictly female. That'��s hard to do. How small does a penis have to be before it counts as intersex? Do you count ��sex chromosome�� anomalies as intersex if there's no apparent external sexual ambiguity? 1 (Alice Dreger explores this question in greater depth in her book Hermaphrodites and the Medical Invention of Sex.)

Here'��s what we do know: If you ask experts at medical centers how often a child is born so noticeably atypical in terms of genitalia that a specialist in sex differentiation is called in,the number comes out to about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births. But a lot more people than that are born with subtler forms of sex anatomy variations, some of which won'��t show up until later in life.

Below we provide a summary of statistics drawn from an article by Brown University researcher Anne Fausto-Sterling. 2 The basis for that article was an extensive review of the medical literature from 1955 to 1998 aimed at producing numeric estimates for the frequency of sex variations. Note that the frequency of some of these conditions, such as congenital adrenal hyperplasia, differs for different populations. These statistics are approximations.

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births

Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births

Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births

Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births

Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births

Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals

Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births

Ovotestes one in 83,000 births

Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births

Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin
administered to pregnant mother) no estimate

5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate

Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate

Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births

Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births

Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births

Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births

Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births

http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency





I'm utterly amazed. No wonder the term 'intersex' is now used.
I NEVER would have included males born with testicles that formed inside. Or a small urethra on a male as female as ' intersex' spock



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