Topic: Veterans Today say they can prove 911 was an inside job
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Sat 01/03/15 11:01 PM









Think the whole World realises now that America did that to their own people? The whole illuminati thing stinks!


Well, one would think so by now...buuut as you can see here, i guess not.
This information will be released soon enough.

By clutching at straws, and laying the blame on anything other than senseless violence, the very hallmark of al Qaeda's crusade, you are trying to make no one except yourself feel better.
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I agree it is senseless violence, and it doesn't make me feel good at all. I lay the blame on the my county's corrupt government.
It matters not to me how you feel about it all.


Well I'm British and I'm looking at it from a neutral point of view without the emotion.
You posted the topic so don't be surprised when people give opinions.



Oh, I'm never surprised by the opinions here. It's here for those who wanna listen. Those who don't can drop their opinions. It really just doesn't matter to me.

I've listened, I didn't hear anything except more conspiracy.



Well, at least your open minded enough to listen. I guess we'll have to see how it all unfolds.

I believe the American Government may have had some intelligence to say something was about to happen. I believe they 'MAY' have ignored it either out of stupidity or they may have wanted an excuse to go to war.
I believe they had no idea whatsoever that it would be so big and that so many would die. That, I will never believe. I will never believe either that they organised it themselves.
If my suspicions are right, I hope the warnings were ignored out of stupidity and not some other sinister reason.
Is George Bush guilty, I think he's guilty of being ignorant and stupid.


I believe they needed an excuse to invade Iraq. They needed the approval of the American public to do so. The people don't want war unless there is a good reason. The propaganda gave George Bush a 98% approval rating and the backing of the people to go to Iraq.
I agree...George Bush is a buffoon.

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Sun 01/04/15 07:17 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 01/04/15 07:54 AM

The 28 pages of the 9/11 commission report that indicts the House of Saud as the financiers of the attacks, and scapegoats the CIAL Qaeda to bring unrest to the ME, and give the war-monging Bush admin the New Pearl Harbor they needed to implement their agenda to do so, pass and impose the laws necessary for the power over the people, and take out one of the biggest thorns in their side (Saddam) in the process. (He was threatening to sell oil for gold or currencies other than US dollars....like Gaddafi..... now Putin)

Bush didn't do it, his daddy's family friends did to implement a money and power agenda long in the making. Cheney was daddy's babysitter for Dubya.

Who was the head of the CIA when Al Qaeda was formed and later became President? Who ran Haliburton? What about Brenton Woods? The attack on the USS Liberty by Israel? The Gulf of Tonkin false flag? All fit into the agenda!

Don't be fooled by smoke and mirrors. Read "The New American Century" by Paul Wolfowitz (I think) and the think tank he ran for the former Bush Admin to bring about the changes they desired for America...... that we are living in today. (You'll find it ties to the Rockerfeller speech mention below.)

There was also another CFR member and Presidential advisor Henry Kissmyassinger right in the middle of all of this!

Remember the Eisenhauer warning of the Military Industrial complex?

Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html

Then there was the assassination of Kennedy who was trying to take the power away from them and give it back to the American people along with sound money (basicaly putting an end to the Federal Reserve and fiat currency, the control of the banks and corporations in America)?

President Kennedy, the Federal Reserve and Executive Order 11110

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHyFUXvGAk

At that point LBJ was made President by ascention, the Vietnam War got bigger, along with the national debt, the power of the banks, and the rise of the industrials that profit from war...... and Wall Street.

This agenda had been long in the making.... since the days of Andrew Jackson's Presidency who fought the banks and won, and after the bankers meeting at Jekyl Island which gave us the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, ending the bankers future need to lobby for limited charters and giving this private banking cartel the power over our currency.

Read "The Creature From Jekyl Island" by G Edward Griffin

http://archive.org/details/CreatureFromJekyllIslandByG.Edward-G.EdwardGriffin

Then of course there was the Rockerfeller speech that broke it all down, but the American people were too caught up with easy money, distraction, and the Industrial Revolution to pay attention....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpw-n4TFf_M

It's a puzzle that takes research because of the amounts of time between events (the nations people had to be conditioned slowly to swallow it) but is easy to put together as a history


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Sun 01/04/15 07:57 AM
OMFG here we go again!rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 01/04/15 07:59 AM
just can't beat a dead horse enough, huh...

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Sun 01/04/15 07:59 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUS1ubhalhk#t=314

Veterans Today Radio says they can prove Dirty Dick Cheney designed 911. They talk about the Illuminati, secret societies, Satanic agenda and conspiracy theories.

Interesting listen

Yep,VeteransToday!laugh

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Sun 01/04/15 08:37 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUS1ubhalhk#t=314

Veterans Today Radio says they can prove Dirty Dick Cheney designed 911. They talk about the Illuminati, secret societies, Satanic agenda and conspiracy theories.

Interesting listen

Yep,VeteransToday!laugh


Nothing to do with Vets Today, religion, or the usual suspects. All about the power, agenda, and the Benjamins!

BTW.... my quotes were from actual events and speeches... other than the Kennedy video... and while the statements and actions taken by the President were true, the video was an opinion based on historical events that have been proven to have happened in the past.

The majority of Presidential assassinations or attempts in this country have happened after actions taken by them to subvert the power of the banking cartel.

Read the history!

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 01/04/15 08:49 AM

just can't beat a dead horse enough, huh...

hey Fellow,good to see you!:thumbsup:

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Sun 01/04/15 08:57 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 01/04/15 09:02 AM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUS1ubhalhk#t=314

Veterans Today Radio says they can prove Dirty Dick Cheney designed 911. They talk about the Illuminati, secret societies, Satanic agenda and conspiracy theories.

Interesting listen

Yep,VeteransToday!laugh


Nothing to do with Vets Today, religion, or the usual suspects. All about the power, agenda, and the Benjamins!

BTW.... my quotes were from actual events and speeches... other than the Kennedy video... and while the statements and actions taken by the President were true, the video was an opinion based on historical events that have been proven to have happened in the past.

The majority of Presidential assassinations or attempts in this country have happened after actions taken by them to subvert the power of the banking cartel.

Read the history!

yep,seems another one bites the Dust!
Jim Marrs is an Idiot!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/j-bradley-jansen/jfk-not-killed-in-fed-con_b_4287519.html


To conserve on the silver needs of the Treasury, President Kennedy requested legislation needed to bring the issuance of Silver Certificates to an end and to authorize the Fed to issue small denomination notes (which it could not at that time). The Fed began issuing small denomination notes almost immediately after the legislation was passed. And in October 1964, the Treasury ceased issuing Silver Certificates altogether. If anything, E.O. 11110 enhanced Federal Reserve power and did not in any way reduce it [emphasis added].

G. Edward Griffin, author of the Creature from Jekyll Island, wrote about this non-issue back in 2000:

If you look at a copy of EO 11110 you will find that it does not order the issuance of Silver Certificates. It orders an amendment to EO 10289 . . . Those functions did not include the power to issue Silver Certificates. The purpose of EO 11110 was to add that power to the list . . . EO 11110 did not order the printing of Silver Certificates. It ordered the amendment of a previous executive order so that the United States Code would authorize or "empower" the Secretary of the Treasury to issue Silver Certificates if the occasion should arise . . .

Let's put this issue into perspective. The proponents of the JFK Myth assert that Kennedy was assassinated because he was about to issue Silver Certificates, thereby denying the bankers their customary interest payments on the nation's currency. However, the reality was just the opposite. Previously, the President could have issued Silver Certificates on his own authority; but, with the signing of EO 11110, he delegated that authority to the Secretary of the Treasury. At that time, the Secretary of the Treasury was Douglas Dillon from a well-known and powerful banking family. That means Kennedy surrendered the power to issue Silver Certificates and gave it to a member of the banking fraternity who could do with it as he pleased "without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President." Dillon, of course, would have strong motive to preserve the dominance of Federal Reserve Notes. The theory that Kennedy was getting ready to issue Silver Certificates is without evidence or logic.Griffin takes the CCLI to task for making up additional baseless bs, "The Christian Common Law Institute has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superseded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid." To which he replies:

This is not supported by the facts. The power granted to the Secretary of Treasury to issue Silver Certificates was rescinded on September 9, 1987, by Executive Order 12608, signed by President Reagan. The official purpose of the Order was stated as "Elimination of unnecessary Executive orders and technical amendments to others." It did not affect EO 11110 directly but did affect the parent EO 10289 - along with 62 other executive orders. That is how paragraph (j) was amended to remove the power in question. This Order can be found in its entirety in the Federal Register 52 FR 34617.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

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Sun 01/04/15 10:00 AM

OMFG here we go again!rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


Bring out the rolling heads!laugh

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Sun 01/04/15 10:01 AM

just can't beat a dead horse enough, huh...


Mightymoe, where u been?

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Sun 01/04/15 10:44 AM


just can't beat a dead horse enough, huh...

hey Fellow,good to see you!:thumbsup:


thanks, been a while.. how you been? i see they can't get off the bush/Cheney hate yet..lol

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Sun 01/04/15 10:45 AM


just can't beat a dead horse enough, huh...


Mightymoe, where u been?


here and there, took a break

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Sun 01/04/15 11:17 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUS1ubhalhk#t=314

Veterans Today Radio says they can prove Dirty Dick Cheney designed 911. They talk about the Illuminati, secret societies, Satanic agenda and conspiracy theories.

Interesting listen


What a crock, nothing more than a rant. No proof, no links, just a two second mention.

And then when links from VT today site are followed, more dead ends. Of course little dickie did it, but this crap doesn't prove anything and what does it matter, Odumbo pardoned him.

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Sun 01/04/15 11:54 AM
Edited by limelight66 on Sun 01/04/15 11:56 AM
1993...The first World Trade Center bombing
1995...Attempted crashing of plane on White House
1995...Oklahoma City bombing
1996...Khobar Towers bombing – Saudi Arabia
1998...�U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000...�USS Cole Bombing - Yemen


Funny that we don't hear the conspiracy theorists harping about these attacks that occurred while Bill Clinton was president.

Heck, I'll throw in the Branch Dividian in Waco, TX too!

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Mon 01/05/15 01:50 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 01/05/15 01:56 PM


Some members of Congress are ramping up their call for the public release of 28 classified pages from the government'€™s 9/11 report. The top-secret pages reportedly reveal Saudi funding of the terrorist attack.

On Wednesday, Reps. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C., and Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., will join former Democratic Sen. Bob Graham of Florida for a Capitol Hill press conference on House Resolution 428, demanding that President Obama declassify the 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 2001.

The 28 pages were initially classified by President George W. Bush and have remained under seal.

http://www.examiner.com/article/lawmakers-seek-saudi-9-11-smoking-gun

The U.S. House Intelligence Committee has denied a Florida congressman’s request for access to 28 classified pages from the 2002 report of Congress’ Joint Inquiry into the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Orlando, told BrowardBulldog.org he made his request at the suggestion of House colleagues who have read them as they consider whether to support a proposed resolution urging President Obama to open those long-censored pages to the public.

“Why was I denied? I have been instrumental in publicizing the Snowden revelations regarding pervasive domestic spying by the government and this is a petty means for the spying industrial complex to lash back,” Grayson said last week, referring to National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article5114082.html

Jan. 3 (LPAC)-Former U.S. Senator Bob Graham, and 9/11 Families spokesperson Terry Strada, appeared on CNN today in a hard-hitting spot highlighting the Saudi role in financing the 9/11 attacks, and hitting the Obama Administration for protecting the Saudis instead of protecting the American people.

The story has now spread widely on internet publications.

The transcript of the interiews, broadcast on the Michael Smerconish Show this morning and again this evening, is as follows:

KAITLYN STRADA, FATHER KILLED IN 9/11 TERRORIST ATTACK: Mr. President, please declassify the 28 pages that hold truths regarding who was behind my father's murder, for me and for the other 3,000 children who lost a parent on 9/11. As a father, wouldn't you want your children to not have to live with unanswered questions without ever knowing the truth?

A congressional committee conducted an investigation. Today, buried in a filing cabinet beneath the U.S. Capitol are 28 pages from that investigation that were first classified by President George W. Bush. Reportedly those 28 pages have interesting details about possible Saudi involvement in a planning and funding of the attack.

President Obama has promised 9/11 victim family members that he will release them. But he hasn't. He should.

Mr. President, please release the 28 pages as you promised. We can handle the truth.

One person who has read those documents and wants all Americans to have the same access is former U.S. senator and Florida Governor Bob Graham. He was chair of the Senate Intel Committee when the 9/11 report was finished back in 2002. He's in Boston.

And Terry Strada, we heard from her daughter, her husband Tom lost his life at ground zero. Terry is co-chair of 9/11 Families United to Bankrupt Terrorism. She's part of a lawsuit looking for civil damages from the people behind the attacks.

Welcome to you both.

Terry, what still don't we know 13 year removed?

TERRY STRADA, HUSBAND KILLED ON 9/11: What the 9/11 families know is that Saudi Arabia played a major role in financing 9/11 but the American people are not aware of this fact.

SMERCONISH: You believe we'll know if we get the access to the 28 pages.

Senator Graham, you read those 28 pages. What's in them?

BOB GRAHAM, FORMER U.S. SENATOR & GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA (D): Well, I can't give details because they are classified, Michael. But you correctly state they primarily deal with who financed 9/11, and they point a strong finger at Saudi Arabia.

SMERCONISH: Senator Graham, we're talking about the work that was done by the Intel Committee distinct and different from the 9/11 Commission. How did the 9/11 Commission handle this issue when they conducted their investigation?

GRAHAM: Well, they did not pursue some of the leads that we had left them with. Our joint inquiry lasted during the year of 2002, the citizens commission was established shortly thereafter. Many of the lines of investigation that we had begun to unearth, particularly in the fall of 2002, in my opinion have not been adequately pursued.

SMERCONISH: Lawrence Wright has written on this and he notes that the Prince Bandar himself has requested that the 28 pages be released. In other words, that there is an argument for the Saudis, they think they are being besmirched by the lack of release. Can you tell me anything else, Senator, about their position in this regard?

GRAHAM: Well, I personally take that with a very jaundice view. To me, it sounds like there was an understanding between the White House and the Kingdom that they would concoct this idea of asking the White House to release, the White House refused, in fact, they actually issued their refusal while representatives of Saudi Arabia were in the air flying to Washington. They got there, heard that their request had been rejected, got back on the plane and flew back to Saudi Arabia.

I think it was a very transparent contrived way to try to find an excuse for Saudi Arabia.

SMERCONISH: Terry, this controversy has been going on for a while. In 2003, 44 members of the U.S. Senate signed a letter and said we want this information released. Those signatories included Secretary Clinton, then Senator Clinton, and Senator Kerry, now Secretary Kerry.

STRADA: Yes.

SMERCONISH: Have they fallen silent since taking on their new responsibilities or are they still championing this cause?

STRADA: They are silent on the issue. We have not heard from them. Also, Vice President Biden signed the letter as well. We've heard nothing from anybody.

SMERCONISH: So, what's going on here? What do you think is driving this?

STRADA: They are protecting the Saudi regime over protecting the American people. And that is the travesty and that's what we're trying to bring to the attention of the American people that they can get involved in this. There is a Web site, 28pages.org, they can go to this Web site, they can read the letters that we have written to the president, read the letter written in 2003, and they can take action. They can call their representatives and they can get involved and they can ask them please read the pages and support this.

SMERCONISH: I hope you get resolution before the 2016 cycle begins. But if you don't, this ought to be an issue for the presidential campaign where in a debate forum, they are asked, will you release those 28 pages? I hope it happens now on President Obama's watch.

Senator Graham, I don't want to get too far in the weeds on this though I have read up on the subject. Is this all about a deal that was made between the Wahhabi extremists and the Saudi family to buy peace in that country? Is that the origin as far as you can tell of this issue?

GRAHAM: Yes. And I think that has real implications for the United States because Saudi Arabia has been the principle supporter financially and otherwise of these extremist movements. Al Qaeda, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, al Shabaab, the al Qaeda franchise in Somalia and now is are all the products of Saudi's desire and commitment to its clerical leadership to extend this extreme form of Islam.

And our failure to call the Saudis to account I think has contributed to their feeling of impunity, that we can do whatever we want to do because the Americans even under the most severe provocation are not going to respond.

SMERCONISH: I know this week you are all going to stand up with members of Congress. I wish you Godspeed in that regard. It's hard to look at your daughter, beautiful by the way, and not say release the 28 pages.

STRADA: Thank you. Thank you very much. Yes, exactly. We hope that we'll be successful this time around.

SMERCONISH: So do I. Thank you.

Thank you, Senator Graham as always. Appreciate your time.

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Mon 01/05/15 02:17 PM



just can't beat a dead horse enough, huh...

hey Fellow,good to see you!:thumbsup:


thanks, been a while.. how you been? i see they can't get off the bush/Cheney hate yet..lol


And here I thought they got over their love for bush/cheny by now. lol

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Mon 01/05/15 03:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUS1ubhalhk#t=314

Veterans Today Radio says they can prove Dirty Dick Cheney designed 911. They talk about the Illuminati, secret societies, Satanic agenda and conspiracy theories.

Interesting listen





I was aware it was an inside job 10 years ago and George Bush is deeply involved too ofcourse amongst many others

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Mon 01/05/15 03:08 PM
Imagine how this planning session between Bush, Rummy and Cheney must have gone:



BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Don, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers al-Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Don. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs, and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed, and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of nowhere somewhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of ****ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, okay.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do, and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork, and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world, and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington DC fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI-5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? ****, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!


The Idiocy Behind the '9/11 Truth' Movement
Why the "9/11 Truth" movement makes the Left Behind series read like Shakespeare.

http://www.alternet.org/story/42181?page=3

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Mon 01/05/15 03:14 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Tue 01/06/15 07:00 PM
It's been months since we had a 9-11 was an inside job thread.. I was going into withdrawal.