Topic: Fuhrer Ruins Couples Dream Wedding, So He Could Play Golf
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Thu 01/01/15 09:56 AM

Seriously, Folks, President Obama (who is the President of all citizens of the USA) didn't know what was happening until after it happened. Once he found out what happened, he called the newlyweds to apologize.

Apparently, people with hate-filled hearts simply want an excuse to rant against President Obama.


Seriously, Odumbo is only president of the easily duped and never of all. I would suggest you try to comprehend the constitution but that will never happen in reality, a place you seem to like to avoid.

And the key to that psychopathic idiot was once he found out, what did he do, confirmed his right as an elite being above the wishes of his masters, yes his masters, he is the servant, thankfully not mine as I have no need of a servant of his disillusion talents.

And it is not the heart that I use to make decisions, after all it is but a muscle controlled by a higher organ and that is what I use to make decisions, period. Only an idiot would even contemplate that a heart could somehow think (hint: that is really the limbic brain that functions on emotions, a sign of a lower order animal).

Boy am I glad I was born in a free country based on the Aristotelianism philosophy of reason that has been under attack by those wishing to instill the Platonism so popular with society that allowed the rise of Hitler. And now we have our little Hitler, Odumbo.

So you follow and pretend he is yours, even as you finally learn the lesson of Auschwitz. I prefer to learn from history, Odumbo, like Hitler is something I oppose, not follow.

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Thu 01/01/15 10:01 AM

The newlyweds are satisfied with a phone call from President Obama. So, that should be the end of the story.


That would be your story, but not based in reality as usual. What makes you think they were satisfied, an emotional reaction based on some media story?

And you are definitely not a little dictator, so it's not the end of the story, obviously. Again, reason will distill this, emotion never will.

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Thu 01/01/15 10:03 AM
I suppose their expressions BEFORE the media are to be ignored too,,

http://www.today.com/news/military-couple-who-relocated-wedding-obamas-golf-game-call-it-1D80396325

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Thu 01/01/15 10:08 AM


At least if you gonna use (inappropriate) titles, get the spelling right ..
And why you ppl need to knock Obama and call him by a title that is related to an inhuman monster is beyond me.
The man called the couple to apologize, made their day! Some would say it's ridiculous that the so called most powerful man in the world would have to apologize for something he prolly didn't even have knowledge of.


I agree with this. It's easy to criticize from a distance but I bet he had no clue that he was intruding on their big day. I also bet he was mortified when he found out about it, as anyone would be.
Give the guy a break.


Really, like Odumbo gave a good crap because if he had, he would have changed his plans but did he, absolutely not. Much the same as other event and vacations where people are inconvenienced so the "royal" family can have their fun, no matter how many others get ruined.

But I will agree that it is so easy to criticize from afar on matters of which one has no clue but many choose to do so anyway.

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Thu 01/01/15 10:10 AM

I suppose their expressions BEFORE the media are to be ignored too,,

http://www.today.com/news/military-couple-who-relocated-wedding-obamas-golf-game-call-it-1D80396325


Absolutely, but then not by those that will find any reason to believe anything that meets their exceptions of what to believe. To those persons, to remain ignorant of reality would be pure bliss, isn't it?

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Thu 01/01/15 10:13 AM
not sure, seems to me as many wish to remain miserable via ignorance as do those who attempt to be blissful in it,,

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Thu 01/01/15 10:18 AM


laugh

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Thu 01/01/15 10:22 AM

franky, giving the guy a break would be the decent thing to do, but some people have too much hatred in their hearts, which prevents them from doing it.


Ah, so again with the emotional analogy based on what? It is those that desire to remain ignorant that actually prevents them from having to face reality. To them, reality is an delusional realm where beliefs are that which fits there narrow expectations. Theirs is never to question, but to accept. This delusion is where hate resides as reason cannot be based on hate, that would be a conflict of terms.


"People set us down as enemies of the intelligence," declared Hitler. "We are. But in a much deeper sense than those conceited dolts of bourgeois scientists ever dreamed of."


Well it seems that our little "Hitler" has a population of idiots much the same as the original Hitler had in twentieth century Germany.

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Thu 01/01/15 10:22 AM
those things are surprisingly cozy and warm, lucky dog,,,laugh

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Thu 01/01/15 10:27 AM

not sure, seems to me as many wish to remain miserable via ignorance as do those who attempt to be blissful in it,,


Ignorance is a choice, one many accept so readily. But your first two words say it all and the rest is purely gibberish.

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Thu 01/01/15 10:30 AM
lol,,,,thanks for making my point laugh

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Thu 01/01/15 11:47 AM

lol,,,,thanks for making my point laugh


But you had no point other that your declaration of "not sure" and if making that clear makes you happy, then you are welcome.

But any other statement made based on the emotion of defending Odumbo at all costs, those are not points but the clarification of the point actually made, "not sure". And that is a point so readily made so often by yourself.

A point is based on reason, not by the emotions. Epistemology identifies the proper means of acquiring knowledge and to which mental processes to employ as methods of cognition and which to reject as invalid or deceptive.

There are two basic philosophies in this world, one as total antithesis to the other, Aristotelianism and Platonism. It is the acceptance of the Platonism philosophy that gave us such greats as Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao Tse-tung, Kim Il-sung, Fidel Castro and so many others including....... Odumbo. The point here is not so much the degree as the philosophical environment that manifests the results.

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Thu 01/01/15 11:51 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 01/01/15 11:53 AM
ah but the nonsense is in insisting on disagreeing even AFTER one agrees..lol


if this is true: Ignorance is a choice

than why is this 'nonsense'? : many wish to remain miserable via ignorance as do those who attempt to be blissful in it,,


or does the concept of 'choice' have an exception to it?...whoa

my posts were nothing to do with emotionalism, as they were BACKED with the direct reasoning (the couples own words, their photos, the planners words)


but, like I said, some choose to ignore to keep drama going,,,

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Thu 01/01/15 12:06 PM

ah but the nonsense is in insisting on disagreeing even AFTER one agrees..lol


if this is true: Ignorance is a choice

than why is this 'nonsense'? : many wish to remain miserable via ignorance as do those who attempt to be blissful in it,,


or does the concept of 'choice' have an exception to it?...whoa

my posts were nothing to do with emotionalism, as they were BACKED with the direct reasoning (the couples own words, their photos, the planners words)


but, like I said, some choose to ignore to keep drama going,,,


Got to agree, your post does seem to contain more than the usual nonsense and Ignorance is always a choice, one chosen by the masses on a continual basis.

Ignorance
From the Latin verb ignorare: "to not know even though necessary information is present, because that information has been willfully refused or disregarded.

And all your posts are based not only on emotion but result in perceptions based on those emotions as so readily expressed by Travis Walton:

"I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

And so true, some do depend on the drama, another emotional endeavor, to keep denying the existence of reality which is so clearly (at least to logic) expressed by the use of others emotions as some justification that reason was used when that is impossible in an emotional environment, there are no emotions in reason.

You may continue to deny all you desire but just who are you trying to convince, yourself?



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Thu 01/01/15 12:42 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 01/01/15 12:42 PM
no,, just looking for a place of common ground

that all this stuff ,, has emotion as a root, and perception too

even by those who seek to feel like the teachers who need to deliver the message,,,,and by those who point out that 'reality' in everyone but themselves,,:wink:

btw,, very rarely are 'all' and 'every' statements based on much but EMOTIONAL Bias,,,


might want to keep an eye on that,,

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Thu 01/01/15 03:02 PM
msharmony, it looks to me like you have stumbled into Monty Python's Argument Clinic. laugh


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Thu 01/01/15 04:21 PM

no,, just looking for a place of common ground

that all this stuff ,, has emotion as a root, and perception too

even by those who seek to feel like the teachers who need to deliver the message,,,,and by those who point out that 'reality' in everyone but themselves,,:wink:

btw,, very rarely are 'all' and 'every' statements based on much but EMOTIONAL Bias,,,


might want to keep an eye on that,,


A place of common ground, and just where would that place be? First off, there is no way I would ever cross over to a concept of less than full freedom and no way you could ever understand the concept, much less determine the common ground.

But all this stuff, as you put it, has differences, not commonality. Perception is based on emotions but reason by its very nature cannot be reason if based on emotion as it would then just be another dogmatic belief.

For one to teach, they must first be of the mind there is another that can learn. Believe me when I state I have never been under such an illusion in this forum. To those that could learn don't need me and to those that do, are not capable of the task. But as I have stated on so many occasions in the past, I am here for my own benefit and none other.

As to reality, the concept of faith, it's antithesis, does not pertain to the content of a man's ideas, but to the method by which they are to be accepted. Reality, in it's true character, is based on reason not on the blind acceptance of ideational content, acceptance induced by feeling in the absence of evidence or proof, faith.

In regards to your conclusion, just another faith based, emotional declaration or would I be mistaken and you have the evidence otherwise?

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Thu 01/01/15 04:26 PM

msharmony, it looks to me like you have stumbled into Monty Python's Argument Clinic. laugh




What argument? Do you somehow have proof of an argument or would you be reading things that are not there?

Then again, maybe that is how it is seen in the fantasy world as opposed to having to come back to this universe.

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Thu 01/01/15 04:59 PM
msharmony, I forgot to tell you that some of the people working in Monty Python's Argument Clinic also work in Monty Python's Abuse Clinic. So, sometimes you will get two for the price of one.

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Thu 01/01/15 06:14 PM
Edited by alnewman on Thu 01/01/15 06:16 PM

msharmony, I forgot to tell you that some of the people working in Monty Python's Argument Clinic also work in Monty Python's Abuse Clinic. So, sometimes you will get two for the price of one.


That would be true, so just stop.