The statistics on education indicate that the US has now fallen behind many poorer nations while spending more money per child than almost anyone. Many blame the teacher's unions for preventing the firing of incompetent teachers. Some blame the parents for raising students who have no urge to learn and do not know the meaning of "discipline". Some blame the government for passing laws preventing spankings and putting emphasis on "teaching to the lowest common denominator" instead of upholding high learning standards. Some blame the mystical "society" who have trained children to "text endlessly" and ignore the future because there won't be one for them.

What should be done?

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some schools can be over crowded...
some school have been shut down becouse they blame the teacher for the scores the children get to keep it open ...
some schools have gotten stricter since 911...
they started charter schools ...
some school have started trying to get the children ready for collage or a career...while their young ...
but then some want to take courses... where there is no job skills for them ... becouse the jobs in that field have been dropped...
some want are children not to learn any higher skills ...
some say illegal immigration...
some say the SAT and other standers tests are to high becouse not used in the real world of employment...

what should be done ...
only think right now I can see that can be done are those schools that are trying to get these kids into collage or training school make sure their telling them what they will be able to get a job with ...after their educations ...

most school are underfunded ...thats why it is harder to... as you say ...what can be done ...

This Answer Question?

From what I have read, Common Core is one part standardized curriculum and one part propaganda. It is dangerous to have the facts taught come from only one source.

Simple answer......

"What's wrong with our schools?"......govt got involved in education

Bingo!!!!

That, of course, is a big part of it but how much of it is due to the teacher's unions?

parents are the ones who hold power over school boards. they are the ones who elect superintendent and other school board officials. much of the school policies can't be effected until they have a certain percentage approval vote by parents.
many parents complain about everything that is wrong with schools but have a great apathy when it comes to effecting change. the parents who complain most are often the ones who never attend any meetings.
additionally, many parents are so overprotective of their children that instead of it being a help it does a great disservice to their child because they don't learn to function in the real world.

whats wrong with our schools...

the fight of religion versus science...

of science versus religion...

the illusion of morality versus unmorality...

nothing that is gonna change until the "fighters" destroy each other.

I can say I'm not the brightest crayon in the box,...what I can't understand....is why back in the days of the "little red school house"...the outcome was planes, trains, automobiles, amazing things with science,...boys and girls that were determined and driven enough to bring us where we are today...and now most can't even add without a machine or much less write in cursive...hmmmm

everything becomes a product of it's environment, unless it is stronger within than it's environment outside of self.

and nothing can be stronger than it's environmental influences unless it is taught to worship the happiness of all life, not just of some lives, most their own.

and in today's environment, filled with billions of pictures of violence as tuff and cool, most young brains, and even old brains, won't stand a chance of not becoming what they them self worship so defend in their environment, and so within them self.

for humans no doubt become what they them self worship and think is cool as good, so validate, within them self.

I don't know about the States but here in Canada; the biggest problem is overcrowding and the teacher can't possibly teach properly. Our teachers here used to have a break in between classes but they took that away and now they have to call another teacher in just to take a pee break. My friend is a music teacher; yet she is teaching English which is a waste of her talents and although she can teach English; its not her strong point. I have noticed though that kids that are home schooled seem to be smarter, more active, more disciplined/well behaved, and even more social than kids in public school. I have several cadets that are home schooled and they excel way beyond those in public schools. Maybe more kids need to be home schooled.

Hey Joe :)...How much?...Plenty!...Teachers unions are the most powerful influence in education today for two reasons...They are extremely well organized and they are hugely funded...They have the financial power needed to affect political elections and control decision making in every single school district...Unions do contribute in positive ways, but by putting the focus on teacher security at the expense of student educational needs they do more harm than good...Administrators can't properly evaluate teachers and bad teachers cannot be fired!..IMO, the first thing that needs to go is tenure....

they are too busy thieving and politicking!

http://laborpains.org/2014/11/20/new-york-teachers-union-boss-booked-for-alleged-200000-theft/

http://laborpains.org/2014/10/07/kids-left-behind-as-randis-minions-walk-out-in-waukegan/

http://laborpains.org/2014/09/09/so-much-for-solidarity-teachers-union-provokes-fellow-union-rank-and-file-members/


http://laborpains.org/category/center-for-union-facts/

I read each article...Hope those with school age children take the time to read them too...

My next door neighbor and my niece teach. They claim the amount of time left in the classroom to actually teach is minimal after all the time wasted by discipline problems, etc. Oddly, you can't discipline the students who need discipline!

Sure hope so!

I have been amazed at what our children AREN'T taught. I think the expectations have gotten so low as to generate poorly educated graduates. It makes me wonder if the goal isn't really to produce stupid voters?!!!

I don't know about stupid voters...
but perhaps uneducated cheap work labor... so when places like China..
. and Mexico.. become the next superpower.. the next leaders in the world market... they can ship all there manufacturing jobs back to us...



.. did you call them schools...
.. we call them... daycare for our children... without them somebody would have to stay home to watch the children.... and education is a relatively new concept..... in the 1800.

.. one out of eight people has an education...... I think I'm not sure about that number... damn my education.. or lack of education..lol

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A general State education is a mere contrivance for moulding people to be exactly like one another; and as the mould in which it casts them is that which pleases the dominant power in the government, whether this be a monarch, an aristocracy, or a majority of the existing generation; in proportion as it is efficient and successful, it establishes a despotism over the mind, leading by a natural tendency to one over the body." - John Stuart Mill, "On Liberty"

"Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed." - Joseph Stalin

"It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion." - Joseph Goebbels


However, the problem of compulsory education has an entirely different significance in those extensive areas in which peoples speaking different languages live together side by side and intermingled in polyglot confusion. Here the question of which language is to be made the basis of instruction assumes crucial importance. A decision one way or the other can, over the years, determine the nation...ality of a whole area. The school can alienate children from the nationality to which their parents belong and can be used as a means of oppressing whole nationalities. Whoever controls the schools has the power to injure other nationalities and to benefit his own....In all areas of mixed nationality, the school is a political prize of the highest importance.

--Ludwig von Mises. Liberalism: The Classical Tradition


Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire" William Butler Yeats (?)

"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled.

Plutarch