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Topic: Stuffed ballots, rigged voting machines, and illegal immigra
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Thu 10/23/14 05:40 PM
Stuffed ballots, rigged voting machines, and illegal immigrants voting

With the election just under two weeks away, evidence of rampant Democrat voter fraud is already pouring in. First, it was surveillance cameras catching a liberal activist apparently stuffing hundreds of ballots at a polling place in Arizona (as I noted on Tuesday). According to Maricopa County Republican Party Chairman A.J. LaFaro, a liberal activist wearing a "Citizens for a Better Arizona" T-shirt walked in while poll workers were on an extended lunch and started shoving piles of ballots into the ballot box.

Then, it was Illinois state representative candidate Jim Moynihan voting early for himself and other Republicans only to notice vote-after-vote being switched to Democratic candidates by the machine. According to the web site Illinois Watchdog, Cook County Board of Elections representative Jim Scalzitti insists that every vote being switched to a Democratic candidate is a "calibration error."

And now, it is Obama's amnestied illegal immigrants registering to vote.
According to the Winston-Salem Journal of North Carolina, State Board of Elections (SBOE) officials recently uncovered 145 names on their voter rolls that belonged to illegal immigrants who were recently granted "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals" (DACA) status by Obama. These would be people who have no legal right whatsoever to vote in our elections, but who are now registered to vote.

Earlier this month, those same officials sampled 1,600 names from their overall list of 10,000 voters who were identified as "legally present" by the DMV (i.e., non-citizens who may or may not have become citizens and obtained voting rights since getting drivers' licenses). They cross-checked the names against a U.S. Department of Homeland Security database, known as SAVE, and found that 6% of the 1,600 registered voters they sampled are not eligible to vote.

The bottom line: There is a reason the party of ACORN hysterically smears any and every voter ID law as racist. Democrats simply cannot compete on a level playing field and must lie, cheat, and steal at every turn to win.

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Fri 10/24/14 07:30 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 10/24/14 07:35 AM

I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead

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Fri 10/24/14 01:13 PM


I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead


Yeah, nothing like picking the lesser of two evils and then thinking one actually had some sort of choice. But then, this is a republic and what does it matter?

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Fri 10/24/14 01:15 PM


I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead

Pardon my ignorance but does American only have the two parties.
We only ever hear of the 2 over here.

We have quite a few but you tend to only hear of the main 3. Conservative, Labour and Liberal.
However we now have another one who are making a bit of a noise, UKIP. United Kingdom independance party.

I just wondered that was all.

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Fri 10/24/14 01:37 PM



I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead


Yeah, nothing like picking the lesser of two evils and then thinking one actually had some sort of choice. But then, this is a republic and what does it matter?

and where does it say a Republic need only have two political Parties?

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Fri 10/24/14 01:58 PM
Edited by michelake on Fri 10/24/14 02:02 PM
I am not from the USA. But if i was then i will never bother to vote for any president in the future to come. It is a complete waste of
time. Before elections they promise you "heaven". Once they start
it is the same old song.. Rich get richer.( Because tax cuts for
the rich is the best way. Or they would leave the country.. right ?)
b.s scare tactics ) The middle class and poor get less privacy. Because
the politicians claim it is for their own good. In fighting crime
and terrorism. The gap between the poor and rich becomes bigger.
The 2 party system is a 1 party. Because of the lobbying and compromises they have to make. In prison there are convicts that work in call centers for the government. But they are not eligable to vote themselves. Since they got incarcerated. Sometimes even for not paying their parking tickets.

http://www.cio.com/article/2417888/outsourcing/prison-labor--outsourcing-s--best-kept-secret-.html

It used to be normal to have a steak at your plate and 2 cars in the
garage. Nowadays people have to get multiple jobs to get by.
And i honestly do not see any progress comming after Obama is out
of Office. Corporate spokesmen "rule" the USA. People can only watch
and see.


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Fri 10/24/14 02:02 PM

I am not from the USA. But if i was then i will never bother to vote for any president in the future to come. It is a complete waste of
time. Before elections they promise you "heaven". Once they start
it is the same old song.. Rich get richer.( Because tax cuts for
the rich is the best way. Or they would leave the country.. right ?)
b.s scare tactics ) The middle class and poor get less privacy. Because
the politicians claim it is for their own good. In fighting crime
and terrorism. The gap between the poor and rich becomes bigger.
The 2 party system is a 1 party. Because of the lobbying and compromises they have to make. In prison there are convicts that work in call centers for the government. But they are not eligable to vote themselves. Since they got incarcerated. Sometimes even for not paying their parking tickets.

http://www.cio.com/article/2417888/outsourcing/prison-labor--outsourcing-s--best-kept-secret-.html



yes one does tend to lose faith and it's hardly surprsing as they all pee in the same pot.
However I would never waste my vote. I just think that if brave men died in two wars for us, the least I can do is vote.
I know not everyone will agree with that but its just my feelings and my way of showing gratitude I suppose.

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Fri 10/24/14 02:09 PM
Edited by michelake on Fri 10/24/14 02:13 PM
offtopic But... Funkyfranky.. have you seen this ?

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/13/world/la-fg-britain-health-care-20110613

It brings me great concerns.

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Fri 10/24/14 02:23 PM




I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead


Yeah, nothing like picking the lesser of two evils and then thinking one actually had some sort of choice. But then, this is a republic and what does it matter?

and where does it say a Republic need only have two political Parties?


Why no where of course so what is your point? Are you confused about the meaning and implications of a republic?

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Fri 10/24/14 02:25 PM

offtopic But... Funkyfranky.. have you seen this ?

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/13/world/la-fg-britain-health-care-20110613

It brings me great concerns.

Interesting. The NHS was once the pride of this nation but now it's becoming a shambles.
If you work here you actually do pay what is basically medical insurance. We call it national Insurance and it covers medical and pension.
A lot of foreign people in University ask me if hospital treatment is free, it makes me smile. For some reason they think school is free too.
Do you know, I pay more to my University to study there than all the foreign students do. How does that work, I'm british and I pay more to learn in my own Country.
Rant over:smile:

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Fri 10/24/14 02:25 PM





I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead


Yeah, nothing like picking the lesser of two evils and then thinking one actually had some sort of choice. But then, this is a republic and what does it matter?

and where does it say a Republic need only have two political Parties?


Why no where of course so what is your point? Are you confused about the meaning and implications of a republic?
laugh laugh laugh
I live in one!:laughing: slaphead

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Fri 10/24/14 02:42 PM



I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead

Pardon my ignorance but does American only have the two parties.
We only ever hear of the 2 over here.

We have quite a few but you tend to only hear of the main 3. Conservative, Labour and Liberal.
However we now have another one who are making a bit of a noise, UKIP. United Kingdom independance party.

I just wondered that was all.


No, America has many parties especially around college campuses. We have many political parties also.

Besides the Repulseacon and Dumbocrats, we have Independents which are normally really Dumbocrats in disguise. Then there is the Socialist party (Odumbo is also a member of this one), the Communist party, the Marxist party, the Green party, the Libertarian Party (this one is growing fast but still only 5 to 10 percent of the votes) and probably a few other off the wall parties here and there.

And of course let's not forget the Tea Party, the most confused party of all. They are totally disillusioned Repulseacons that somehow believe that the Leopard will change their spots or is it the Tigers will change their stripes, on well anyway, neither is going to happen even though this year the main Repulseacons have taken up some of their conservative values to take advantage of the weakness of the Dumbocrats because of the Supreme Leaders, Odumbo, total screw ups.

But the Repulsecons and Dumbocrats have nothing to worry about. Their total corruption is in control of all the money and the populace in general is just too ignorant to have anything really change.

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Fri 10/24/14 02:43 PM

I am not from the USA. But if i was then i will never bother to vote for any president in the future to come. It is a complete waste of
time. Before elections they promise you "heaven". Once they start
it is the same old song.. Rich get richer.( Because tax cuts for
the rich is the best way. Or they would leave the country.. right ?)
b.s scare tactics ) The middle class and poor get less privacy. Because
the politicians claim it is for their own good. In fighting crime
and terrorism. The gap between the poor and rich becomes bigger.
The 2 party system is a 1 party. Because of the lobbying and compromises they have to make. In prison there are convicts that work in call centers for the government. But they are not eligable to vote themselves. Since they got incarcerated. Sometimes even for not paying their parking tickets.

http://www.cio.com/article/2417888/outsourcing/prison-labor--outsourcing-s--best-kept-secret-.html

It used to be normal to have a steak at your plate and 2 cars in the
garage. Nowadays people have to get multiple jobs to get by.
And i honestly do not see any progress comming after Obama is out
of Office. Corporate spokesmen "rule" the USA. People can only watch
and see.




That pretty much sums it up in a nutshell as the old wise tell says.

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Fri 10/24/14 03:02 PM

In this system it doesn't matter who wins (both parties are bought and paid for) with the bankers and corporations controlling both parties and calling the shots.

The media will of course never give equal time, and often never mention but in passing, a third party. They too are paid too well

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Fri 10/24/14 03:05 PM


I am not from the USA. But if i was then i will never bother to vote for any president in the future to come. It is a complete waste of
time. Before elections they promise you "heaven". Once they start
it is the same old song.. Rich get richer.( Because tax cuts for
the rich is the best way. Or they would leave the country.. right ?)
b.s scare tactics ) The middle class and poor get less privacy. Because
the politicians claim it is for their own good. In fighting crime
and terrorism. The gap between the poor and rich becomes bigger.
The 2 party system is a 1 party. Because of the lobbying and compromises they have to make. In prison there are convicts that work in call centers for the government. But they are not eligable to vote themselves. Since they got incarcerated. Sometimes even for not paying their parking tickets.

http://www.cio.com/article/2417888/outsourcing/prison-labor--outsourcing-s--best-kept-secret-.html



yes one does tend to lose faith and it's hardly surprsing as they all pee in the same pot.
However I would never waste my vote. I just think that if brave men died in two wars for us, the least I can do is vote.
I know not everyone will agree with that but its just my feelings and my way of showing gratitude I suppose.



What brave men, are you speaking of the enablers? Are you speaking of those that think they are defending home and country but are really just keeping the world imprisoned?

Now, I don't blame our young men for thinking they are doing their patriotic duty, that is how the propaganda works. But it is time we woke up. Just take a moment and look at the devastation just the US has caused in this world:

Why do we ignore the civilians killed in American wars?

Korea - estimated 3 million deaths with over half civilians;
Vietnam - between 1.5 to 3.8 million deaths;
Cambodia - between 600,000 to 800,000 deaths;
Laos - over 1 million dead;
Iraq - 2006 scientific calculations are from 400,000 to 650,000 dead;
Afghanistan - 100,000 deaths.


And then there is the matter of our sons and now our daughters. So many young lives snuffed out, for what? Did any of these people really do anything against us?

Oh, that's right, Bin Laden, our ally that we trained and screwed. Living in a cave in Afghanistan and somehow he got a group of Saudi's to steal and fly planes into buildings?

What if they gave a war and no one showed up?

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Fri 10/24/14 03:15 PM



I am not from the USA. But if i was then i will never bother to vote for any president in the future to come. It is a complete waste of
time. Before elections they promise you "heaven". Once they start
it is the same old song.. Rich get richer.( Because tax cuts for
the rich is the best way. Or they would leave the country.. right ?)
b.s scare tactics ) The middle class and poor get less privacy. Because
the politicians claim it is for their own good. In fighting crime
and terrorism. The gap between the poor and rich becomes bigger.
The 2 party system is a 1 party. Because of the lobbying and compromises they have to make. In prison there are convicts that work in call centers for the government. But they are not eligable to vote themselves. Since they got incarcerated. Sometimes even for not paying their parking tickets.

http://www.cio.com/article/2417888/outsourcing/prison-labor--outsourcing-s--best-kept-secret-.html



yes one does tend to lose faith and it's hardly surprsing as they all pee in the same pot.
However I would never waste my vote. I just think that if brave men died in two wars for us, the least I can do is vote.
I know not everyone will agree with that but its just my feelings and my way of showing gratitude I suppose.



What brave men, are you speaking of the enablers? Are you speaking of those that think they are defending home and country but are really just keeping the world imprisoned?

Now, I don't blame our young men for thinking they are doing their patriotic duty, that is how the propaganda works. But it is time we woke up. Just take a moment and look at the devastation just the US has caused in this world:

Why do we ignore the civilians killed in American wars?

Korea - estimated 3 million deaths with over half civilians;
Vietnam - between 1.5 to 3.8 million deaths;
Cambodia - between 600,000 to 800,000 deaths;
Laos - over 1 million dead;
Iraq - 2006 scientific calculations are from 400,000 to 650,000 dead;
Afghanistan - 100,000 deaths.


And then there is the matter of our sons and now our daughters. So many young lives snuffed out, for what? Did any of these people really do anything against us?

Oh, that's right, Bin Laden, our ally that we trained and screwed. Living in a cave in Afghanistan and somehow he got a group of Saudi's to steal and fly planes into buildings?

What if they gave a war and no one showed up?


I was talking about the 1st and 2nd world wars.

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Fri 10/24/14 03:17 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 10/24/14 03:30 PM


In this system it doesn't matter who wins (both parties are bought and paid for) with the bankers and corporations controlling both parties and calling the shots.

The media will of course never give equal time, and often never mention but in passing, a third party. They too are paid too well


Conspiracy theories like the illuminati are a distraction welcomed to those who can't face the truth. The culprit in human despair isn't the Illuminati, or the Bilderbergs, or the Rothschilds, or the Freemasons, or the Zionists, or the Satanists, or the Jesuits, or The Banksters,anything resembling those. It's easy to believe it's one of those, because in your subconscious you are thinking, "Well if the _______ is revealed as the controllers of the world and if we depose them, the world will go back to being sunshine and rainbows and perfection!"
The reality is that it is never going to happen like that. Conspiracy theories, like voting, only show that people still place blind faith in the "right" person in authority instead if the "wrong" person. Either way, people who believe this refuse to see that it is and has always been the State that oppresses people. It is the nature of government itself to oppress.


Daniel Hawkins (High-Schooler)


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Fri 10/24/14 03:50 PM




I am not from the USA. But if i was then i will never bother to vote for any president in the future to come. It is a complete waste of
time. Before elections they promise you "heaven". Once they start
it is the same old song.. Rich get richer.( Because tax cuts for
the rich is the best way. Or they would leave the country.. right ?)
b.s scare tactics ) The middle class and poor get less privacy. Because
the politicians claim it is for their own good. In fighting crime
and terrorism. The gap between the poor and rich becomes bigger.
The 2 party system is a 1 party. Because of the lobbying and compromises they have to make. In prison there are convicts that work in call centers for the government. But they are not eligable to vote themselves. Since they got incarcerated. Sometimes even for not paying their parking tickets.

http://www.cio.com/article/2417888/outsourcing/prison-labor--outsourcing-s--best-kept-secret-.html



yes one does tend to lose faith and it's hardly surprsing as they all pee in the same pot.
However I would never waste my vote. I just think that if brave men died in two wars for us, the least I can do is vote.
I know not everyone will agree with that but its just my feelings and my way of showing gratitude I suppose.



What brave men, are you speaking of the enablers? Are you speaking of those that think they are defending home and country but are really just keeping the world imprisoned?

Now, I don't blame our young men for thinking they are doing their patriotic duty, that is how the propaganda works. But it is time we woke up. Just take a moment and look at the devastation just the US has caused in this world:

Why do we ignore the civilians killed in American wars?

Korea - estimated 3 million deaths with over half civilians;
Vietnam - between 1.5 to 3.8 million deaths;
Cambodia - between 600,000 to 800,000 deaths;
Laos - over 1 million dead;
Iraq - 2006 scientific calculations are from 400,000 to 650,000 dead;
Afghanistan - 100,000 deaths.


And then there is the matter of our sons and now our daughters. So many young lives snuffed out, for what? Did any of these people really do anything against us?

Oh, that's right, Bin Laden, our ally that we trained and screwed. Living in a cave in Afghanistan and somehow he got a group of Saudi's to steal and fly planes into buildings?

What if they gave a war and no one showed up?


I was talking about the 1st and 2nd world wars.


Yes those too. From the US standpoint, the people were against involvement in that war. But thanks to Woodrow Wilson, you know the guy that gave us the Federal Reserve and the IRS found a way to violate that desire and do yet another harm to the people of this country.

Same for WWII, were the people of these united States did not want to be involved. But of course the military industrial complex could not accept that and again found a way to get the US involved.

And oh yeah, the bankers financed both sides of both wars. And they know that all you need to do is to stage some tragedy and the public will come running with their patriotism on their sleeves.

So WWI, 9 million combatants and 7 million civilians die so that the bankers can enslave the world. And WWII, over 60 million dead, over 2.5% of the world population.

So where is the glory? What do the brave souls that return home smashed and disillusioned get?

I don't know about the UK, but here in the US that are so many foundations on TV begging for donations to care for the mangled vets and their families. Now that the military industrial complex has finished with them, all they get is a totally dysfunctional Veterans Administration that is willing to let them rot in the hallways much less address the needs of the families.

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Fri 10/24/14 03:57 PM





I am not from the USA. But if i was then i will never bother to vote for any president in the future to come. It is a complete waste of
time. Before elections they promise you "heaven". Once they start
it is the same old song.. Rich get richer.( Because tax cuts for
the rich is the best way. Or they would leave the country.. right ?)
b.s scare tactics ) The middle class and poor get less privacy. Because
the politicians claim it is for their own good. In fighting crime
and terrorism. The gap between the poor and rich becomes bigger.
The 2 party system is a 1 party. Because of the lobbying and compromises they have to make. In prison there are convicts that work in call centers for the government. But they are not eligable to vote themselves. Since they got incarcerated. Sometimes even for not paying their parking tickets.

http://www.cio.com/article/2417888/outsourcing/prison-labor--outsourcing-s--best-kept-secret-.html



yes one does tend to lose faith and it's hardly surprsing as they all pee in the same pot.
However I would never waste my vote. I just think that if brave men died in two wars for us, the least I can do is vote.
I know not everyone will agree with that but its just my feelings and my way of showing gratitude I suppose.



What brave men, are you speaking of the enablers? Are you speaking of those that think they are defending home and country but are really just keeping the world imprisoned?

Now, I don't blame our young men for thinking they are doing their patriotic duty, that is how the propaganda works. But it is time we woke up. Just take a moment and look at the devastation just the US has caused in this world:

Why do we ignore the civilians killed in American wars?

Korea - estimated 3 million deaths with over half civilians;
Vietnam - between 1.5 to 3.8 million deaths;
Cambodia - between 600,000 to 800,000 deaths;
Laos - over 1 million dead;
Iraq - 2006 scientific calculations are from 400,000 to 650,000 dead;
Afghanistan - 100,000 deaths.


And then there is the matter of our sons and now our daughters. So many young lives snuffed out, for what? Did any of these people really do anything against us?

Oh, that's right, Bin Laden, our ally that we trained and screwed. Living in a cave in Afghanistan and somehow he got a group of Saudi's to steal and fly planes into buildings?

What if they gave a war and no one showed up?


I was talking about the 1st and 2nd world wars.


Yes those too. From the US standpoint, the people were against involvement in that war. But thanks to Woodrow Wilson, you know the guy that gave us the Federal Reserve and the IRS found a way to violate that desire and do yet another harm to the people of this country.

Same for WWII, were the people of these united States did not want to be involved. But of course the military industrial complex could not accept that and again found a way to get the US involved.

And oh yeah, the bankers financed both sides of both wars. And they know that all you need to do is to stage some tragedy and the public will come running with their patriotism on their sleeves.

So WWI, 9 million combatants and 7 million civilians die so that the bankers can enslave the world. And WWII, over 60 million dead, over 2.5% of the world population.

So where is the glory? What do the brave souls that return home smashed and disillusioned get?

I don't know about the UK, but here in the US that are so many foundations on TV begging for donations to care for the mangled vets and their families. Now that the military industrial complex has finished with them, all they get is a totally dysfunctional Veterans Administration that is willing to let them rot in the hallways much less address the needs of the families.

I admire your passion although I don't agree with some of your views.
However I do agree with the injured soldiers who return home and how they and their families are treated, its pretty much the same here.
Its shameful.

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Fri 10/24/14 04:09 PM






I'm hoping we see a swing away from either party, but for that to happen we would have to have an election process that wasn't rigged from the gate

In other words, it'll never happen

A 7% approval rating for congress and people just keep voting the same 2 headed serpent of corruption and idiocy expecting something to change slaphead


Yeah, nothing like picking the lesser of two evils and then thinking one actually had some sort of choice. But then, this is a republic and what does it matter?

and where does it say a Republic need only have two political Parties?


Why no where of course so what is your point? Are you confused about the meaning and implications of a republic?
laugh laugh laugh
I live in one!:laughing: slaphead


So you are confused as to the meaning of a republic. Switzerland is not a republic but a democracy, in fact the "closest state in the world to direct democracy".

And there are huge differences in a republic and a democracy. Of course the US is mistakenly deemed by most (especially the government) as a "democratic" republic. Again, it is either one or the other, not both.

Or as the old saying goes, a democracy is two wolves and a sheep determining what is for dinner and a republic is a well armed sheep.

An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic


These two forms of government: Democracy and Republic, are not only dissimilar but antithetical, reflecting the sharp contrast between (a) The Majority Unlimited, in a Democracy, lacking any legal safeguard of the rights of The Individual and The Minority, and (b) The Majority Limited, in a Republic under a written Constitution safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority; as we shall now see.

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