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Canadian researchers may have developed a vaccine against Ebola.
Ebola Vaccine Still needs testing but looks very promising so far. |
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Oddly, the Canadian vaccine is being tested on Americans.
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Oddly, the Canadian vaccine is being tested on Americans. An American company owns the license for it. Canadians only did the actual research. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Never let a crisis go to waste Big Pharma lobbyists will see EVERYONE gets a dose, just like the insurance companies handled our healthcare problems and the war machine (CIA) makes sure we have plenty of enemies that need killing We have the best politicians money can buy and a TV watching, programmed public to keep them in office! |
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Yes.. let's see how long it takes them to get the vaccine.. to the people that need it...hmm... and I hate saying..this..
but people are living longer... we are having more children than people are dying.... do the math.... X. amount of resources... will only feed X amount pof people.... and the powers that be..... consider your resources !!!..their resources... |
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Never let a crisis go to waste Big Pharma lobbyists will see EVERYONE gets a dose, just like the insurance companies handled our healthcare problems and the war machine (CIA) makes sure we have plenty of enemies that need killing We have the best politicians money can buy and a TV watching, programmed public to keep them in office! |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,,
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Never let a crisis go to waste Big Pharma lobbyists will see EVERYONE gets a dose, just like the insurance companies handled our healthcare problems and the war machine (CIA) makes sure we have plenty of enemies that need killing We have the best politicians money can buy and a TV watching, programmed public to keep them in office! Gonna build me one of those! See if you can hack in my Brain then! |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,, Oops, Msharmony, you let the secret out, that too on a public forum. The Force will be calling on you shortly! |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,, that Virus,and similar ones have been around for ages,regardless of what you hear spouting out of the CTs! |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,, Oops, Msharmony, you let the secret out, that too on a public forum. The Force will be calling on you shortly! lol,, those in the medical field for decades keep a abreast of these things I happen to be in close connection with a doctor and scholar,,,,worked in HIV for years and now about to work in Ebola(not me,, the scholar),.,,, I trust that person and their knowledge,,,,,,,, |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,, we created the virus? |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,, No, we didn't create the virus, and we don't have the vaccine. However, potential vaccines are now being tested. Seriously, your "source" of information leaves much to be desired. |
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michelake
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Thu 10/16/14 07:44 AM
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Russia is testing an experimental vaccine. Called "Triazaverine"
And they are very positive about it. They say it is 70-90% efficient. Monsanto wants a piece of the pie also off course.. Maybe the whole cake if they could a patent on that too. It would also not surprise me as been said before by msharmony. That there is already a cure for Ebola. I think when this turns into a pandemic. Then the cure will be brought "miraculously" on the market. Then it will be a question of who can afford the vaccine. But off course that is my speculation. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 10/16/14 08:22 AM
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Ebola is not like aids, it mutates, and has done so many times. At each outbreak former vaccines have only shown to slow the new mutation. I saw a special at a friends house, on one of the science or discovery channels, saying that once it reaches the animal kingdom vaccines become useless due to mutation, and Africa is hardest hit because of their dependance on feral foods and shared water sources. It also said that Ebola was created and/or tested at Ft Dietrich, along with AIDS, after WW2, and tested on prisoners, twins, brothers and sisters, to test the effects. The Japanese had been working with chemical agents for decades and after the war their scientists were brought to Dietrich to continue testing for the USA, just as German scientists where.... the creators of our rocket program. Timothy Leary didn't create LSD. He was a subject of tests also performed there under the MK Ultra mind control program. One of the scientists was given the drug, unknown to him, by an associate of the program, becoming extremely paranoid and had to be committed the remainder of his life. They found younger people, like Leary and McArthur (two young science majors from Berkley), enjoyed the conscience/mind altering effects. Leary obviously did A false belief that our govt would never do such a thing to it's citizens, or other nations, has been disproven in unsealed govt documents so many times, that anyone believing that myth is the real CTer! |
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Found this looking for a link to the program I watched.... It's a long article so I'm not going to attempt to clean up all the punctuations and added BS markings I usually do to make it easier to read *********************************** Google "5676977" and check it out. I wonder why even the possibility of this discovery hasn't made major news around the world..... the article below may help to explain it.... The AIDS virus: Made in the USA? Jerry Mazza | October 27 2005 You mean AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) didn’t come from a green monkey that bit a black African on the ***? Are you lying to us again, Uncle Sam? I think so. In fact, on July 29, 1969, only days after the Department of Defense (DOD) asked for $10 million from Congress to fund the development of a “synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired . . ." on that day, the chairman of the Republican Task Force on Earth Resources and Population, the Honorable George H. W. Bush, U.S. Representative from Texas, 7th District (1967–71), stressed the pressing need for population control activities to fend off “a growing Third World crisis.” Imagine. Here is the linked text of the Dept. of Defense request for Appropriation for 1970, HB 15090, from page 129. Quoted is Dr. MacArthur from said Pentagon, speaking to Robert L.F. Sikes, Florida, about the need for the above mentioned “synthetic biological agent” [italics mine]. There are two things about the biological agent field I would like to mention. One is the possibility of technological surprise. Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and eminent biologists believe that within a period of 5 to 10 years it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. Mr. Sikes. Are we doing any work in that field? Dr. MacArthur. We are not. Mr. Sikes.. Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest? Dr. MacArthur. Certainly not lack of interest. Mr. Sikes. Would you provide for our records information on what would be required, what the advantages of such a program would be. the time and the cost involved? Dr. MacArthur. We will be very happy to. The information follows: The dramatic progress being made in the field of molecular biology led us to investigate the relevance of this field of science to biological warfare. A small group of experts considered this matter and provided the following observations: All biological agents up to the present time are representatives of naturally occurring disease. and are thus known by scientists throughout the world. They are easily available to qualified scientists for research. either for offensive or defensive purposes. Within the next 5 to 10 years. it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately 5 years at the total cost of $10 million. It would be very difficult to establish such a program. Molecular biology is a relatively new science. There are not many highly competent scientists in the field. Almost all are in university laboratories. And they are generally adequately supported from sources other than DOD. However, it was considered possible to initiate an adequate program through the National Academy of Sciences - National Research Council (NAS—NRC). The matter was discussed with the NAS-NRC. and tentative plans were made to initiate the program. However. decreasing funds in CB [chemical-biowarfare]. growing criticism of the CB. program, and our reluctance to involve the NAS NRC in such a controversial endeavor have led us to postpone it for the past 2 years. It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such research should not be undertaken lest it lead to yet another method of massive killing of large populations. On the other hand, without the sure scientific knowledge that such a weapon is possible. and an understanding of the ways it could be done, there is little that can be done to devise defensive measures. Should an enemy develop it there is little doubt that this is an important area of potential military technological inferiority in which there is no adequate . . . And so on. And thus spake Dr MacArthur. And the $10 million appropriation was granted. And it worked, perhaps the beginning of the end. Enter Dr. Robert Strecker Flash forward to 1983. Dr. Robert Strecker of Los Angeles, a practicing gastroenterologist with a Ph.D. in pharmacology, is hired as a consultant to work on a health care proposal for an HMO of the Security Pacific Bank, concerning coverage costs in the event any of 30,000 employees came down with AIDS. Along with the help of his brother, Theodore, a lawyer, the two compiled extensive research of the epidemic which ultimately became The Strecker Memorandum. In it, Dr. Strecker indicated that the AIDS virus was in fact developed by the National Cancer Institute, in cooperation with the World Health Organization (WHO), in a laboratory at Ft. Dietrick in Maryland. From 1970–74, this laboratory facility was part of the U.S. Army’s germ warfare unit, known as the Army Infectious Disease Unit, or Special Operations Division, also referred to as the Army’s Chemical Biological Warfare Laboratory. Post 1974, the facility was renamed the National Cancer Institute (NCI). According to researcher William Cooper (former Navy Intelligence), noted in Larry Jamison’s article Is The AIDS Virus Man Made?, this work was supervised by the CIA under a project called MK-NAOMI. [To get to this site click link, then “All News,” then “Next page”] Dr. Strecker has also traced some of the research and researchers at Ft. Dietrick/NCI to a group of Japanese scientists captured at WW II’s end and given amnesty in exchange for information on racial and ethnic bio-weaponry, their research dating back to 1930. What’s more, expatriated Russian scientists were brought in to help as well. Dr. Strecker, one of the original and foremost authorities on the AIDS virus, found that the virus creation was conducted under the leadership of Dr. Robert Gallo, who later claimed to discover the virus. Dr. Gallo and his team created the AIDS virus by combining the bovine (cattle) leukemia virus and visna (sheep) virus, and injecting them into human tissue cultures. They discovered, as Strecker did, that bovine leukemia virus is lethal to cattle, but not to humans. And the visna virus is deadly to sheep, but not to man. However, when combined, they produce a retro-virus that can change the genetic composition of the cells they enter. In fact, as Larry Jamison points out, early field tests on prison convicts led to sickness then death, which inspired Gallo and friends to bigger and more terrible things, including injecting brothers and sisters with the tainted vaccine to see who died first. This was done to study HLA (human leukocyte antigen processing), to see how related people reacted. Frighteningly, whole families got sick at once! And there was worse to come. The AIDS retro-virus works, as Dr. Strecker states, by causing the destruction of the immune system, fundamentally the body's white blood or T-cells essential to the effectiveness of the immune system particularly against opportunistic infections diseases. The B-cells deal with more benign, bacterial infections. AZT, the drug which is a kind of junk food that starves the AIDS virus, often kills the patient as well. It provides dubious consolation. Predictably, when Robert and Theodore tried to share their findings with national, state and local authorities, they received only two responses. On August 11, 1988, Ted Strecker, was found shot to death in his home in Springfield, Missouri. The death was ruled a suicide, in spite of the fact that Dr. Robert Strecker had spoken to his brother on the phone the night before, and Ted was both healthy and in good spirits. On September 12, 1988, the lone political official who had responded to the Streckers’ findings, Illinois State Representative Douglas Huff of Chicago, was found dead in his home. The autopsy claimed he died of a stroke as a result of an overdose of cocaine and heroin. Huff had been an outspoken supporter of Dr. Strecker’s work to publicize what was in essence an AIDS cover-up. Dr. Strecker himself is said to have “gone underground” about five years ago. Yet copies of his Strecker Memorandum are available on DVD and VHS. His passion and massive knowledge have not faded since 1988 when the piece was produced. See it if you can. The common disinformation on AIDS that Strecker fought was the claim that AIDS origin came from a green monkey biting a black man’s backside in Africa. Strecker and a number of virologists pointed out that the AIDS virus doesn’t appear naturally in any animal. Plus, it would have been impossible to reach the point of millions infected from a single episode. More likely, they said, if the virus had come from green monkeys, it would have surfaced with the Pygmies, who are closer to them, and use them as a food source. Ironically, Pygmies contracted AIDS later on when they had intercourse with prostitutes in cities, where the AIDS virus first appeared, not in the jungle. Also, concerning green monkeys, Dr. William Campbell Douglass, MD, writes in 1987 in W.H.O. Murdered Africa : “This is the origin of the green monkey theory. The polio vaccine was grown on green monkey kidney cells and the geniuses who brought us polio vaccine said: ‘We got away with it once so let's use it again.’ But they didn't get away with it and in spite of the fact that polio was rapidly disappearing without any medical intervention, 64 million Americans were vaccinated with SV-40 contaminated vaccine in the 60s. An increase in cancer of the brain, possibly multiple sclerosis and God only knows what else is the tragic result. The delay between vaccination and the onset of cancer with this virus is as long as 20–30 years. Ninteen sixty-five plus 20 equals 1985. Get the picture?” Why, Where and When the AIDS Epidemic First Reared its Head In 1972, under the auspices of the World Health Organization (WHO), there was a massive vaccination program for smallpox, literally for millions of Africans. Strecker and others believe that the smallpox vaccine laced with the HIV/AIDS virus was given the population, which was mostly black, poor, and part of that startlingly growing African population that GHW Bush, among many elites, the Rockefeller family, the Club of Rome crowd and Bilderbegers, had been concerned with in 1969, and back to 1965, when “the Club” was formed. The intent was to achieve their awful goal—of reducing the world’s population by 75 percent—as mentioned in The Modern History Project. This is the main reason the AIDS pandemic occurred almost simultaneously in Haiti, Brazil, Japan, and the United States, as well as Central Africa. As Jamison tells us, “There was a book in 1968 titled The Population Bomb, by Dr. Paul Ehrlich that had a very telling paragraph on page 17 that probably tells us the key thinking that was behind the decision. Dr. Ehrlich says ‘in summary, the world’s population will continue to grow as long as the birth rate exceeds the death rate; it’s as simple as that. When it stops growing or starts to shrink, it will mean that either the birth rate has gone down or the death rate has gone up or a combination of the two. Basically, then there are only two kinds of solutions to the population problem. One is a birth rate solution (remember the ZPG—Zero Population Growth—movement?) The other is a death rate solution in which ways to raise the death rate—war, famine, pestilence—find us. The problem could have been avoided by population control, in which mankind consciously adjusted the birth rate so that a ‘death rate solution’ did not have to occur.’" How thoughtful of them all. Jamison goes on to say: “The late William Cooper, in his excellent book Behold A Pale Horse notes that Dr. Ehrlich’s wife, Anne, is a member of the Club Of Rome, a think tank group that produced a computer model called Global 2000 which not only outlined the recommendations for AIDS, including a special prophylactic for the ruling elite, and a cure at the very same time which is to be released to the survivors when it is decided enough people have died. According to Cooper, the Global 2000 plan was developed at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and then presented to President Carter. Cooper’s research determined that the order to proceed with the plan ‘was given by the policy committee of the Bilderberg Group in Switzerland.’” He adds, “The Bilderbergers . . . are a powerful alliance of elite world political leaders and international financiers. . . . In his book, Cooper also mentions the ‘Haig-Kissinger depopulation policy which has taken over various levels of government and in fact is determining U.S. Policy. The planning organization operates outside the White House and directs its entire efforts to reduce the world’s population by 2 billion people through war, famine and any other means necessary.’ Active policies of our State Department go beyond the implementation of AIDS, because Cooper mentions the existence of the office of Population Affairs whose Latin American case officer Thomas Ferguson actually made the statement that ‘There is a single theme behind all of our work: we must reduce population levels. Either they do it our way through nice clean methods or they will get the kind of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut.'" That ‘messy and clean’ language has a familiar ring to it. And in fact, on May 11, 1987, as The Modern History Project, Jamison, and others point out, no less than the London Times broke the story “Smallpox Vaccine ‘Triggered AIDS Virus.’” It was written by Science Editor Pearce Wright, who, challenged by independent investigators' research, went on to tie the World Health Organization’s mass vaccination program to the AIDS outbreak. Since Central (Sub-Saharan) Africa was the locus of the program, it has tragically become the most hard-hit area of the world. The London Times article, which spread like wildfire over Europe, never touched the shores of America. The story was buried like the first AIDS victim. The irony is that AIDS is considered a heterosexual disease in Africa, while in America it has been stigmatized as a ‘gay’ disease. The dark heart of that matter begins in 1969, with a Dr. W. Schmugner, a Polish physician educated in Russia, who came to America where he became head of the New York City Blood Bank. He established guidelines for a Hepatitis B vaccine study, in which only “promiscuous males,” ages 20 to 40 were included in the study, managing to somehow single out only gays. In 1978, more than a thousand “promiscuous homosexual” males were the victims of this “experimental” Hepatitis B vaccination, sponsored by the National Institute of Health (NIH) and Centers for Disease Control (CDC). Since the vaccine was not produced from human tissue culture, it’s impossible to have an accidental contamination. In plain language, the AIDS virus was intentionally laced into the Hep B vaccine. By 1981, the CDC claimed that only 6 percent of the Hep B vaccine recipients were infected with AIDS. In 1984, the truth was outed: the number was 64 percent. That’s right, 64 percent. Not surprisingly, these Hep B vaccines studies are now under lock and key at the No Justice Department in Washington, DC. And no one can see them. No, no, no, not you, not you, not you. Helping to Further Spread the Disease To help the disease really dig into the population, vital information was additionally covered-up. Emphasis was put on the prime cause of AIDS infection as the exchange of body fluid through sexual activity and intravenous drug use. This gave birth to a campaign for using clean unused needles as well as condoms. Lovely. The fact is condom use is not a guarantee against contracting the disease. One AIDS virion (a virus particle with outer coat intact) is 500 times smaller than the smallest sperm and 10 times smaller than the smallest hole in a condom and therefore can pierce it. Failure rates of 30–50 percent have been noted, and condom quality itself is under scrutiny. Nevertheless, this is not, I repeat, not a recommendation to anyone not to use a condom. What’s more, the risk of casual contact has been understated. I don’t mean to anger anyone here or bail on the afflicted, but AIDS is highly contagious. There is hard evidence, which Strecker mentioned, that the AIDS virus can survive on a dry petri dish for 7 days, and up to 15 days in a wet environment. Incubation in a host can last for 10 to 15 years before there is noticeable sign of illness. This means a carrier could unknowingly pass on the disease in that time. It’s a painful proposition all around, including the caution of Professor William Haseltine of Harvard Medical School: “Anyone who tells you categorically that AIDS is not contracted by saliva is not telling you the truth. AIDS may in fact be transmissible by tears, saliva, bodily fluids, and mosquito bites.” Whether you agree with the above or not, the larger context is that this pox, this abomination, was created and spread consciously by the United States government against black heterosexual populations and then gay white populations, and then spread to populations at large around the world. This mass-murder has already dwarfed the holocaust, in which six million people were murdered with industrial technology. The evil geniuses behind this virus have bio-engineered an organism that multiples 100 times faster than influenza. There are more than 180 different AIDS viruses and 300 strains, which makes blood testing meaningless. Strecker’s number for possible AIDS viruses was 9,000 (base pairs on the genome) to the fourth power. In Conclusion for Now The notion of a single vaccine to deal with all the permutations is impossible, according to Strecker, Dr. Campbell Douglass, and other doctors. What’s more, UN statistics, to the extent that they can be trusted, approximate that: People living with HIV number 39.4 million . . . New HIV infections in 2004 were 4.9 million . . . Deaths due to AIDS in 2004 were 3.1 million . . . Avert.Org puts the total number of people living with AIDS at 39.4 million. Concerning total AIDS deaths, Dr. Campbell Douglass writes: “Dr. Strecker points out that even if the African green monkey could transmit AIDS to humans, the present known amount of infection in Africa makes it statistically impossible for a single episode, such as a monkey biting someone on the butt, to have brought this epidemic to this point [1987]. The doubling time of the number of people infected, about every 14 months, when correlated with the first known case and the present known number of cases, prove beyond a doubt that a large number of people had to have been infected at the same time. Starting in 1972 with the first case from our mythical monkey and doubling the number infected from the single source you get only a few thousand cases. From 1972 to 1987 is 15 years or 180 months. If it takes 14 months to double the number of cases then there would have been 13 doublings, one then 2, then 4, then 8, etc. In 15 years, from a single source of infection there would be about 8,000 cases in Africa, not 75 million. [That’s his bottom line then for Africa alone] We are approaching World War II mortality statistics here—without a shot being fired.” Thus, we are faced with a species-killer, a global war on humanity, silently out-pacing anything but all-out nuclear conflagration. To those of us in North America, to those of us who are healthy (we hope), these figures, this plague, seem distant often, happening to others, a subject already talked to death. Unless light can continue to be shed on AIDS soon, even from some dark figure among those who perpetuated it, where is the future and how do we take life today for granted tomorrow? In the haze of a television culture, of endless ballgames, “reality” shows, sitcoms, apocalypse movies, and romantic comedies, where is the light? AIDS was man made in the USA, and is not God’s wrath on gays, Africans, Latinos, or women, as various crackpots would have us believe. AIDS is about all of us and our generations surviving the crass dementia of some ruling class. Like the virus, the enemy is within the social body, feasting on it. It’s time, one way or the other, to turn this dark light and its ops out. |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,, No, we didn't create the virus, and we don't have the vaccine. However, potential vaccines are now being tested. Seriously, your "source" of information leaves much to be desired. I agree with you Dodo. These people are just so paranoid it's unbelievable. I find it absolutely incredible. |
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we created the virus, we have the vaccine,,, Oops, Msharmony, you let the secret out, that too on a public forum. The Force will be calling on you shortly! lol,, those in the medical field for decades keep a abreast of these things I happen to be in close connection with a doctor and scholar,,,,worked in HIV for years and now about to work in Ebola(not me,, the scholar),.,,, I trust that person and their knowledge,,,,,,,, True whistle blowers cite their sources and stand up for truth that is credibly proven.... |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 10/16/14 09:19 AM
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A plain clothes man standing near hazmat suited workers transferring the second Dallas health care worker diagnosed with Ebola to a plane at Dallas Love Field had everyone asking, "Why?" Their answer.......Does this make sense to you "His role is to oversee the process of transport including on the tarmac," Randy Davis, vice president at Phoenix Air, told NBC News. "Part of our protocol is to have 1 person NOT in a bio-Hazard suit. " http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/Plain-Clothes-Man-Perplexes-Viewers-279357962.html If he is "safe" why is everyone else in hazmat gear? And then he even boards the plane? |
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^^^^NBC Today show makes me want to puke sometimes too.
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