What physical evidence, if any, proves to you there is a Creator, a great spirit, ect?
Yesterday i was harvesting marigold seeds. The way the seeds are stacked in the pod, perfectly parralell... , compressed, dont know of any manufacturing process that could do that.., and of course the fact that i cant build a seed in a university laboratory..., cant be done.

the existence of god cannot be proven you must make a leap of faith as the theory of evolution is offered as a tentative explanation that is empirically defined....

we are still young , ask me again in a 20,000 years i might have an answer for you

well if we haven't killed are self's by then

OFF TOPIC.

Actually it is very on topic. A good example would be Einstein's theory that gravity could bend light. It was denied or taken on faith, just like the belief in God, until it was ultimately proven. One can have faith in God or faith in the Sun rising every morning and not know why.

One only has to look at the theory of evolution and say "That's how God did it." to make it work.

Let's see if I remember it:

1. This statement is a lie- is a paradox
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2. This statement is unprovable- is true

If someone can more appropriately summarize Godel's Theorem of Incompleteness in response to Russell's Barber Paradox, please do so

It has often been noted that a proof of God would be fatal to religion: a God susceptible of proof would have to be finite and limited; He would be one entity among others within the universe, not a mystic omnipotence transcending science and reality. What nourishes the spirit of religion is not proof, but faith, i.e., the undercutting of man's mind.



Leonard Peikoff, Maybe You're Wrong
The Objectivist Forum, April 1981,


BTW,ever had a look at the packaging of a late Model CPU?

Physical evidence of a Creator?

Matter exists and some of it seemingly exists in random chaos without any real order. Some matter is seemingly arranged in incredibly elaborate order, like your Marigold seeds.

If we are a by-product of mere chance...? Why aren't we and everything else just some sort of 'mush' made-up of a universal glob of elements?

Formless and void...

"I think, therefore I am," must be dumb-luck too?

"Our bodies are given form from the midst of nothingness. Existing where there is nothing is the meaning of the phrase "Form is emptiness." That all things are provided for by nothingness is the meaning of the phrase, "Emptiness is form." One should not think that these are two separate."-- the Hagakure

Things dont INVENT themselves in nature, rather things tend to deteriorate... are not over 90 percent of all life that ever existed here extinct??

The fact that most life is extinct is proof of the five mass extinctions.

From the BBC

"Although the Cretaceous-Tertiary (or K-T) extinction event is the most well-known because it wiped out the dinosaurs, a series of other mass extinction events has occurred throughout the history of the Earth, some even more devastating than K-T. Mass extinctions are periods in Earth's history when abnormally large numbers of species die out simultaneously or within a limited time frame. The most severe occurred at the end of the Permian period when 96% of all species perished. This along with K-T are two of the Big Five mass extinctions, each of which wiped out at least half of all species. Many smaller scale mass extinctions have occurred, indeed the disappearance of many animals and plants at the hands of man in prehistoric, historic and modern times will eventually show up in the fossil record as mass extinctions. Discover more about Earth's major extinction events below."

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-20498356

My mama once told me when we get married, we cannot know n advance what will happen..however, we can identify certain traits n a prospective mate that indicates marriage s a reasonable act of faith..similarly, the honest searcher can reach a point where he has seen enough evidence about God to make a faith commitment to him.as we turn to this evidence we must realize we will b working n the area of probabilities not n the area of mathematical proof...the point of all this s that we can b rational without being radically rationalistic..

well all I know... is everything I have. I have ..
. for a reason...
. therefore!! there must be thought reasoning behind it all....
.. not happenstance....
.. Engineering...or.. a divine... deity..
... either way... it is not for me to ask why... but only to bow my head!!.. in thanks...

need proof of God ?

i dont, i'm patient....everybody will have proof or not, within a 100 years, give or take a few, of the day you were born....so, i'll just wait patiently....

When ever i think of god..are
.trying to meet him! before my time.
i often think! what makes me So special...out of all the billions, of people that have died !..before me
they did not get to, meet him before their time...so what makes me so special !!what makes you!! so special.??

why would he reveal himself ,to anyone generation...i do not believe you will meet him well you are still alive ...it is only when you pass!! into the other realm , then he ,or she, or it ,..becomes visible..to you..

maybe all the wars , famines , terror in the name of him .... are a good evidence that he is still learning how to be a god !

When we look around us, we can see a lot if people wanst able to have a good haircut..does it mean that this s also a good evidence that barbers are still learning how to b a barber?

yes !

Sort of, sort of not. In your example, you're insinuating God has made a mistake somewhere, weather it's his fault or not, you're still insinuating he made a mistake. Wars, Famine, Terror, Robbery, Murder, and all the rest are not God's doing, it's called free will. PEOPLE rob, PEOPLE murder, PEOPLE cause wars, PEOPLE allow other's to go hungry. Again, God gave us free will and this world works off of cause and effect. No matter how small of an action, whatever you do today, effects the world tomorrow.

I agree cowboy...bible starts wth the fact that God built free choice into human race at the beginning..some have tried to argue that God should have created people with freedom who would always choose to do good..but this s just like saying that God should have created a square triangle..lol.. ?