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Topic: 9 killed, dozens hurt in Chicago holiday shootings
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Mon 07/07/14 10:48 AM
9 killed, dozens hurt in Chicago holiday shootings

CHICAGO (AP) — The Fourth of July weekend was a bloody one in Chicago, where at least nine people were shot to death and at least 60 others were wounded.

Two of the dead were shot by police. Officers shot a total of five people over the long holiday weekend, a tally that Larry Merritt of the Independent Police Review Authority called "not normal."

Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is scheduled to talk about violence on Monday and release the latest figures of the number of illegal gun seizures in Chicago.

Last week, the police department announced there had been more shootings, but fewer homicides, in the city in the first half of this year compared with the same period last year.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/07/14 10:53 AM
Isn't that the Home Of Guncontrol?noway


metalwing's photo
Mon 07/07/14 11:24 AM
There is a reason to the madness!


msharmony's photo
Mon 07/07/14 12:22 PM
thank goodness for improvement

it has evolved(devolved?) into a very 'violence is the answer' culture,,,but I have to believe the pendulum is swinging back,,,

lilott's photo
Mon 07/07/14 12:36 PM
Arm every responsible citizen then things like wouldn't happen.

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/07/14 12:37 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 07/07/14 12:38 PM
yes,, 'responsible' citizens

and who are they going to be?
lets make sure some of them are psychics, so they can tell which person in a crowd of armed individuals is actually the threat and initiator of the shooting,,,,



Dodo_David's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:42 PM

yes,, 'responsible' citizens

and who are they going to be?
lets make sure some of them are psychics, so they can tell which person in a crowd of armed individuals is actually the threat and initiator of the shooting,,,,


Are you suggesting that responsible people not be allowed to have the means to fight fire with fire?

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/07/14 01:50 PM


yes,, 'responsible' citizens

and who are they going to be?
lets make sure some of them are psychics, so they can tell which person in a crowd of armed individuals is actually the threat and initiator of the shooting,,,,


Are you suggesting that responsible people not be allowed to have the means to fight fire with fire?


no, Im not

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/07/14 02:37 PM

Isn't that the Home Of Guncontrol?noway




http://allenbwest.com/2014/07/11-dead-60-wounded-chicago-weekend-violence-wheres-outrage/

11 dead, 60 wounded in Chicago weekend violence. Where’s the outrage?



When it’s politically expedient, liberal progressives will use any gun violence to further their anti-gun agenda. However, when it’s in their backyard, the cradle of their gun control efforts, they are amazingly silent. Liberals talk about how all the illegal immigrants are escaping the violence of their countries, but is it possible to escape from the city of Chicago?

Based on what happened there this past weekend, people may sure want to.

According to the Chicago Sun-Times, by 7 a.m. Monday, 11 people had been killed and at least 60 others wounded in holiday weekend shootings across the city since Thursday night. Two more were shot dead by police.

Nearly all of those killed were black or Hispanic men age 35 or younger. Two —Shaquille Ross, 18, and Kezon Lamb, 19 — were teenagers. One was a woman.

“According to ABC News station WLS-TV in Chicago there were also three police-involved shootings on July 4th alone. They city has been actively combating gang and shooting violence in recent years after a bloody year in 2012, when it was the only city in the nation to record more than 500 homicides.”

Yes, Chicago, the home of Saul Alinsky, Barack Hussein Obama, Bill Ayers, Tony Reszko, Valerie Jarrett, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson Sr., Hillary Clinton, David Axelrod, David Plouffe, and Mayor Rahm Emanuel. So why no statement of condemnation from these illustrious progressive socialists? Perhaps they just don’t care — after all this is occurring in the black neighborhoods — the hapless playground of liberal progressives.

ABC News says, “to bring down the high murder rate, police have been dispatched by the hundreds in dangerous neighborhoods, and government officials have worked with community leaders to try to combat violence.”

“The strategy appeared to be working, with the number of homicides falling to 415 in 2013 from more than 500 the year before. However the murder rate was still higher than many other U.S. cities. By comparison New York City, which is more than triple the size in population recorded less than 350 murders in 2013.”

But shootings overall are on the rise, with the total in Chicago this year up to 1,129 so far. According to the Chicago Tribune, there were 2,185 shooting victims in the city last year.

So where are the speeches from Obama, a Chicago native, about gang related gun violence? I guess it is just not as important as flooding the country with illegal immigrants.

Where is his pen and phone on this subject? This clearly isn’t about gun control because criminals sure seem capable of getting guns — to the danger of honest, law-abiding citizens.

I can tell you for certain, if I were president and there was an outbreak of gang-related gun violence in my hometown of Atlanta, you can bet I’d be there – and not talking about more government funding or blaming others. I’d go into those affected neighborhoods and stand eye-to-eye with gang leaders and let them know in no uncertain terms I will do everything to crush them.

Then I’d work with church, community, and business leaders to restore the communities to afford better opportunities. That has nothing to do with being a black president – it has to do with being a leader.

Which we certainly don’t have right now.

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/07/14 02:51 PM
actually, there are far too many communities for any President to spend the time 'standing eye to eye' in some pissing match with them

however, the power of the pen is at least as mighty as any staredown/pissing contest

and this president has indeed used it for many such programs with communities that are underserved,,,,

dont believe that if the media hasnt reported it EN MASSE, it has therefore not happened,,,,



adj4u's photo
Tue 07/08/14 08:30 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 07/08/14 08:37 AM









msharmony's photo
Tue 07/08/14 01:37 PM
is there evidence mass shooters are reading signs that are posted when planning the crimes?....lol


yeah' trained personel' are a good idea

gund in every john and jill does hands is not,,,,

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/08/14 05:52 PM

is there evidence mass shooters are reading signs that are posted when planning the crimes?....lol


yeah' trained personel' are a good idea

gund in every john and jill does hands is not,,,,


i dont know how many places that were mass shootings are known no
weapon areas

schools are for one
some shopping malls are
some movie theaters are
military bases are

do not recall any in area where it is known you can to carry

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/08/14 06:03 PM
I doubt shooters CARE whether others can carry guns, the majority dont plan to live through it one way or another, many kill themselves, many shoot until they are killed.

That someone might shoot them, is maybe not the deterrent gun advocates like to imagine it is.

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/08/14 06:08 PM

I doubt shooters CARE whether others can carry guns, the majority dont plan to live through it one way or another, many kill themselves, many shoot until they are killed.

That someone might shoot them, is maybe not the deterrent gun advocates like to imagine it is.


well i dont hear about any police stations getting shot up

or any gun shops getting shot up

or any gun clubs

or target ranges

so yes it is more of a deterrent than gun controllers want to admit

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/08/14 06:15 PM
really? here ya go

police stations:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/23/michigan.shooting/

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20438718/shots-fired-inside-gloucester-township-police-station




yes, and I dont hear about nurseries being shot up,, so maybe that means everyone should carry a baby,,,,lol



adj4u's photo
Tue 07/08/14 06:23 PM

really? here ya go

police stations:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/23/michigan.shooting/

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20438718/shots-fired-inside-gloucester-township-police-station




yes, and I dont hear about nurseries being shot up,, so maybe that means everyone should carry a baby,,,,lol





dont you watch law n order criminal intent baby wont help lol


drinker

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/08/14 06:25 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 07/08/14 06:26 PM
yeah, I love that show (the donofrio version, not the goldblum),,,lol

still havent heard of a nursery full of babies being shot up

may have something to do with how most shootings have a personal nature and people probably dont often feel wronged by babies


but they do by fellow students, or employers, etc,,,,,

mental illness and guns dont mix

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/08/14 06:27 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 07/08/14 06:29 PM


me to for l.o.c.i.


mental illness and guns dont mix




that law is already on the books

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/08/14 06:29 PM
than it needs to be better enforced


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