Topic: President Obama's Pros and Cons
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 06/22/14 04:36 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 06/22/14 04:36 AM



racism isn't in this thread,,,so IM not sure the continued reference


nor has anyone implied that anyone disagreeing is racist...


Haters? You've labeled us all racists before as your basis in other arguments....er uh....debates.

Guess it's like changing "global warming" to "climate change". When you can't prove one, just generalize the topic


what?! a hater is someone who hates

I haven't mentioned or posted about racism in a while because IM hardly here anymore

lets stay on topic,,,,

I haven't generalized anything, its pretty clear

humans have strengths and weaknesses

people who cant acknowledge any strengths of another are best described as HATERS

people who cant aknowledge any weaknesses could probably be described as WORSHIPPERS


I worship no man, nor am I a hater. but certainly plenty of people hate on others as a full time hobby,,,



And you want me to stay on topic?

rofl


You're not a hater.... but you are quick to condemn..... NOW THAT'S FUNNY!

no photo
Sun 06/22/14 05:02 AM




racism isn't in this thread,,,so IM not sure the continued reference


nor has anyone implied that anyone disagreeing is racist...


Haters? You've labeled us all racists before as your basis in other arguments....er uh....debates.

Guess it's like changing "global warming" to "climate change". When you can't prove one, just generalize the topic


what?! a hater is someone who hates

I haven't mentioned or posted about racism in a while because IM hardly here anymore

lets stay on topic,,,,

I haven't generalized anything, its pretty clear

humans have strengths and weaknesses

people who cant acknowledge any strengths of another are best described as HATERS

people who cant aknowledge any weaknesses could probably be described as WORSHIPPERS


I worship no man, nor am I a hater. but certainly plenty of people hate on others as a full time hobby,,,



And you want me to stay on topic?

rofl


You're not a hater.... but you are quick to condemn..... NOW THAT'S FUNNY!


And in a rather quite righteous way, does she condemn :tongue:

If We ( I ) were talking about some joe schmoe average dude down the
street from me who wasn't keeping his lawn looking as well as I,
then I could find something nice to say and simply over look his
" faults & flaw " not some schmuck who willingly seek public office
to represent " WE THE PEOPLE " !!

It is like those hollyweird folks who complain about " being famous "
and all the photog's who follow them constantly !!


smokin


msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 08:57 AM




racism isn't in this thread,,,so IM not sure the continued reference


nor has anyone implied that anyone disagreeing is racist...


Haters? You've labeled us all racists before as your basis in other arguments....er uh....debates.

Guess it's like changing "global warming" to "climate change". When you can't prove one, just generalize the topic


what?! a hater is someone who hates

I haven't mentioned or posted about racism in a while because IM hardly here anymore

lets stay on topic,,,,

I haven't generalized anything, its pretty clear

humans have strengths and weaknesses

people who cant acknowledge any strengths of another are best described as HATERS

people who cant aknowledge any weaknesses could probably be described as WORSHIPPERS


I worship no man, nor am I a hater. but certainly plenty of people hate on others as a full time hobby,,,



And you want me to stay on topic?

rofl


You're not a hater.... but you are quick to condemn..... NOW THAT'S FUNNY!



whats funny is how the thread continues to prove my point


hater

A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.

Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a notch.

Susan: You know, Kevin from accounting is doing very well. He just bought a house in a very nice part of town.

Jane (hater): If he is doing so well why does he drive that '89 Taurus

laugh

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 09:00 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 06/22/14 09:03 AM





racism isn't in this thread,,,so IM not sure the continued reference


nor has anyone implied that anyone disagreeing is racist...


Haters? You've labeled us all racists before as your basis in other arguments....er uh....debates.

Guess it's like changing "global warming" to "climate change". When you can't prove one, just generalize the topic


what?! a hater is someone who hates

I haven't mentioned or posted about racism in a while because IM hardly here anymore

lets stay on topic,,,,

I haven't generalized anything, its pretty clear

humans have strengths and weaknesses

people who cant acknowledge any strengths of another are best described as HATERS

people who cant aknowledge any weaknesses could probably be described as WORSHIPPERS


I worship no man, nor am I a hater. but certainly plenty of people hate on others as a full time hobby,,,



And you want me to stay on topic?

rofl


You're not a hater.... but you are quick to condemn..... NOW THAT'S FUNNY!


And in a rather quite righteous way, does she condemn :tongue:

If We ( I ) were talking about some joe schmoe average dude down the
street from me who wasn't keeping his lawn looking as well as I,
then I could find something nice to say and simply over look his
" faults & flaw " not some schmuck who willingly seek public office
to represent " WE THE PEOPLE " !!

It is like those hollyweird folks who complain about " being famous "
and all the photog's who follow them constantly !!


smokin




lol, actually its not

I defined something pretty specific , a' hater'

by the mere fact that one cannot find even ONE positive thing to say about ANY human being, whatever their profession, it makes them a HATER

I haven't named names,, just defined the condition,, if the shoe doesn't fitflowerforyou don't wear it,, or be so defensive about it

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 06/22/14 09:54 AM





racism isn't in this thread,,,so IM not sure the continued reference


nor has anyone implied that anyone disagreeing is racist...


Haters? You've labeled us all racists before as your basis in other arguments....er uh....debates.

Guess it's like changing "global warming" to "climate change". When you can't prove one, just generalize the topic


what?! a hater is someone who hates

I haven't mentioned or posted about racism in a while because IM hardly here anymore

lets stay on topic,,,,

I haven't generalized anything, its pretty clear

humans have strengths and weaknesses

people who cant acknowledge any strengths of another are best described as HATERS

people who cant aknowledge any weaknesses could probably be described as WORSHIPPERS


I worship no man, nor am I a hater. but certainly plenty of people hate on others as a full time hobby,,,



And you want me to stay on topic?

rofl


You're not a hater.... but you are quick to condemn..... NOW THAT'S FUNNY!



whats funny is how the thread continues to prove my point


hater

A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.

Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a notch.

Susan: You know, Kevin from accounting is doing very well. He just bought a house in a very nice part of town.

Jane (hater): If he is doing so well why does he drive that '89 Taurus

laugh

and what does that have to do with Obama's sleaziness,and underhandedness?slaphead

metalwing's photo
Sun 06/22/14 10:18 AM
MH would lead one to believe that everyone who notices the failures in Obama's character and administration is a "hater" or a "racist". Yet she claims to not make generalizations.

The polls would indicate that an increasing percentage of the population of the US (now a large majority) are seeing the same traits first noticed by the Conservatives. Many Democratic politicians are running for office by denouncing Obama's policies. 'Nuf said.

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 10:31 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 06/22/14 10:32 AM

MH would lead one to believe that everyone who notices the failures in Obama's character and administration is a "hater" or a "racist". Yet she claims to not make generalizations.

The polls would indicate that an increasing percentage of the population of the US (now a large majority) are seeing the same traits first noticed by the Conservatives. Many Democratic politicians are running for office by denouncing Obama's policies. 'Nuf said.


wow

unbelievable

MH has said nothing in this thread even remotely similar to the above

MH has said when a person can find NOTHING positive to say about another they are a HATER

similar to how when a person can find NOTHING negative about a person they are a 'sheep' or 'follower'

Dodo put forth a challenge, from my perception , to prove we are neither haters nor worshippers
by asking those who are normally negative to say something positive and t hose who are usually positive to say something negative

the definition of hater is not a generalization, it is what it is,,,

polls don't have any indication of whether the population is incapable of finding either one positive or one negative about the potus

disagreeing with some of his policies is quite different than not being able to acknowledge ANYTHING positive ,, vastly different

DODO himself regularly posts how he disagrees with his policies, but I would bet the bank that he is still able to at least ACKNOWLEDGE something positive about him as well,,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 10:33 AM






racism isn't in this thread,,,so IM not sure the continued reference


nor has anyone implied that anyone disagreeing is racist...


Haters? You've labeled us all racists before as your basis in other arguments....er uh....debates.

Guess it's like changing "global warming" to "climate change". When you can't prove one, just generalize the topic


what?! a hater is someone who hates

I haven't mentioned or posted about racism in a while because IM hardly here anymore

lets stay on topic,,,,

I haven't generalized anything, its pretty clear

humans have strengths and weaknesses

people who cant acknowledge any strengths of another are best described as HATERS

people who cant aknowledge any weaknesses could probably be described as WORSHIPPERS


I worship no man, nor am I a hater. but certainly plenty of people hate on others as a full time hobby,,,



And you want me to stay on topic?

rofl


You're not a hater.... but you are quick to condemn..... NOW THAT'S FUNNY!



whats funny is how the thread continues to prove my point


hater

A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.

Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a notch.

Susan: You know, Kevin from accounting is doing very well. He just bought a house in a very nice part of town.

Jane (hater): If he is doing so well why does he drive that '89 Taurus

laugh

and what does that have to do with Obama's sleaziness,and underhandedness?slaphead


it has to do with whether humans can acknowledge strengths and weaknesses in others,,,,which is the topic of the thread



Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/22/14 11:57 AM





racism isn't in this thread,,,so IM not sure the continued reference


nor has anyone implied that anyone disagreeing is racist...


Haters? You've labeled us all racists before as your basis in other arguments....er uh....debates.

Guess it's like changing "global warming" to "climate change". When you can't prove one, just generalize the topic


what?! a hater is someone who hates

I haven't mentioned or posted about racism in a while because IM hardly here anymore

lets stay on topic,,,,

I haven't generalized anything, its pretty clear

humans have strengths and weaknesses

people who cant acknowledge any strengths of another are best described as HATERS

people who cant aknowledge any weaknesses could probably be described as WORSHIPPERS


I worship no man, nor am I a hater. but certainly plenty of people hate on others as a full time hobby,,,



And you want me to stay on topic?

rofl


You're not a hater.... but you are quick to condemn..... NOW THAT'S FUNNY!



whats funny is how the thread continues to prove my point


hater

A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.

Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a notch.

Susan: You know, Kevin from accounting is doing very well. He just bought a house in a very nice part of town.

Jane (hater): If he is doing so well why does he drive that '89 Taurus

laugh


If there was ANY success during his Presidency I would be happy, but he has been one COLOSSAL F-up as a President.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/22/14 11:57 AM

MH would lead one to believe that everyone who notices the failures in Obama's character and administration is a "hater" or a "racist". Yet she claims to not make generalizations.

The polls would indicate that an increasing percentage of the population of the US (now a large majority) are seeing the same traits first noticed by the Conservatives. Many Democratic politicians are running for office by denouncing Obama's policies. 'Nuf said.


:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 12:45 PM
homosexuals who can now marry and serve openly would probably find something positive

previously uninsured due to preexisting ocnditions would probably find something positive

military families who have their loved ones back from Iraq would probably find something positive

people no longer seeing their credit cards rip them off with interest rates would probably find something positive

people who have seen their taxes cut probably would find something positive

people concerned with the environment and our dependence upon foreign oil may find something positive



only haters and worshippers with tunnelvision believe there is eight years of only good, or eight years of only bad policy,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 06/22/14 03:27 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 06/22/14 03:28 PM

homosexuals who can now marry and serve openly would probably find something positive

previously uninsured due to preexisting ocnditions would probably find something positive

military families who have their loved ones back from Iraq would probably find something positive

people no longer seeing their credit cards rip them off with interest rates would probably find something positive

people who have seen their taxes cut probably would find something positive

people concerned with the environment and our dependence upon foreign oil may find something positive



only haters and worshippers with tunnelvision believe there is eight years of only good, or eight years of only bad policy,,,


Sure! Anyone who believes in denouncing the principals our nation was founded on, supports amnesty for illegals (rewarding lawbreakers), considers our Constitution a worthless rag and our rights under it subjective instead of guaranteed..... of course they would support this lawless admin and the evil clown at the head of it

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 06/22/14 07:06 PM

DODO himself regularly posts how he disagrees with his policies, but I would bet the bank that he is still able to at least ACKNOWLEDGE something positive about him as well,,,,


Me say something positive about Obama's tenure as POTUS?





















Let me get back to you on that. :tongue:

J/K

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 07:19 PM


homosexuals who can now marry and serve openly would probably find something positive

previously uninsured due to preexisting ocnditions would probably find something positive

military families who have their loved ones back from Iraq would probably find something positive

people no longer seeing their credit cards rip them off with interest rates would probably find something positive

people who have seen their taxes cut probably would find something positive

people concerned with the environment and our dependence upon foreign oil may find something positive



only haters and worshippers with tunnelvision believe there is eight years of only good, or eight years of only bad policy,,,


Sure! Anyone who believes in denouncing the principals our nation was founded on, supports amnesty for illegals (rewarding lawbreakers), considers our Constitution a worthless rag and our rights under it subjective instead of guaranteed..... of course they would support this lawless admin and the evil clown at the head of it


the question posed had nothing to do with whether someone supports someone or not, it was whether someone had the BALANCE to aknowledge both good and bad about someone,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 06/22/14 07:38 PM
OK, here is one positive thing that Obama has done while POTUS ...

One day during his first term, he decided to take a break from the Oval Office and go see his elder daughter play in a game of soccer.

Being POTUS is a short-term job. Being a daddy is forever.

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 07:43 PM
He does seem to be a good father. Not easy to do in his position. I think his daughters are blessed to have the parents they do.

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 07:46 PM
that's right, as a 'supporter' of the POTUS, my challenge was saying things that are 'negative'


so,, I have contributed one answer for the challenge,, here is another

I do not like that he allowed himself to be cornered into the Rev Wright Scandal,,

I don't know why Presidents don't seem to believe 'no comment' or 'that's personal' are reasonable responses,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 06/22/14 08:00 PM
Here is another thing that is positive about Obama's tenure as POTUS ...

It ends in January of 2017. :tongue:

J/K

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/22/14 08:01 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 06/22/14 08:04 PM
u got jokes, but then again, I no longer will have to look at constant griping about him and his family can go back to being permitted to be imperfect human beings,,,,

so , that part will be very good,,,


someone else can be the target of obsession and hating,,,flowerforyou

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 06/22/14 08:52 PM

u got jokes, but then again, I no longer will have to look at constant griping about him and his family can go back to being permitted to be imperfect human beings,,,,

so , that part will be very good,,,


someone else can be the target of obsession and hating,,,flowerforyou


Yeah, like the next Republican POTUS. indifferent

In case you missed it, there was an epidemic of Bush Derangement Syndrome while GWB occupied the Oval Office.

Anyway, here is something else positive about Obama's tenure as POTUS ...

From Forbes.com: "Streamlined the Social Security disability approval process."