Topic: I would recommend this book
CowboyGH's photo
Thu 05/29/14 07:04 AM

I was answering Miles question, as he is obsessed with seeing "where is it written"


:)

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 05/29/14 11:51 AM










Just study Malachi ask your pastor if this has come to pass


lol you say that like I go to church Miles. I would possibly go if I had a car lol >.<. But just for the sake of a "discussion" that's not how it works. You don't just claim something shows something but doesn't explain what it's suppose to be showing. If you're going to post something, I ask that you explain the relation please.


That's because I can show more proof than you would want. years ago I flooded things with proof then was asked not to , to just explain it. so I changed and that's what I did. But from our experience Cowboy it does not matter what proof I show u.. U r stuck on Tradition. In a day and age where the bible references where no bias is concerned just what the Hebrew and greek says anyone can find out what the bible says and come to their own conclusions.

I do not want or wish anyone to believe what I say. I hope people will start to look at what the languages of the day really said before the KJV that is so Holy. it is so messed up. but today as Daniel said we would have a Knowledge explosion . a time where only now almost anyone can search the Hebrew and the greek and make up their own minds. Study to shew yourself approves we r told.

I waist my time when no matter what u will keep to Christmas, easter jc, j-hovah. now their is a name u should really study and u will fall over backwards when u see who is being called upon. But no one cares. its a Free for All. Believe whatever you want to. yet still call upon jc all the time. u will find out when you throw out those names the Spirit will open to you. you can not be partakers of evil and whats Holy.

Study. the bible tells me to stop telling you things when u reject it. so I am not going to do the work for you then you just say. that was all done away. you say you r a Christian. what does that mean? to be Christ Like right? But what do you do that is Christ Like?

Did Christ keep the Law? so wouldn't being Christ Like would be to keep the same Law also? He was our example. but we throw it away with one word. Fulfilled. read the rest of the story.

Did Yahshua ever Sacrafice? no he did not. nowhere is it recorded he did a sacrafise other than his lips and himself as we are told to do. By the way it says that same thing in the Psalms . That Yahweh never desired the fat and the blood of heifers and goats. Study to shew yourself approved. You have to answer for yourself not me.



Think you may have taken this "discussion" way to far Miles. lol

You ask I'm assuming a hypothetical question "Did Yahshua ever sacrifice?" Lol who would he be sacrificing to and for what reason? lol. When people in the days when they made sacrifices, were making the sacrifices to HIM lol. So who would he necessarily make the sacrifice to? The sacrifices were not pleasing to him for he wanted us to do right in the first place and not have to sacrifice something. That's why he didn't necessarily "approve" of the sacrifices.

Also you asked


Did Christ keep the Law? so wouldn't being Christ Like would be to keep the same Law also? He was our example. but we throw it away with one word. Fulfilled. read the rest of the story.


He kept every bit of it, he never had one fault, not one sin. It was your sins, his sins, her sins, and of course my sins Jesus took the punishment for. Nothing he did, for he was pure.


Sacraficing he did not do is an example. He did not pray to himself. He is Not Yahweh. It is written every temptation known to man he went through and did not sin. He was not Elohim on earth. He was a man or what did he really do since the pain and suffering he could endure as Elohim with no problem. He said he was not good only his father in Heaven was good. this is a problem thinking he is Yahweh. He is not


How is not sacrificing an example? Of course he did not pray to himself, what would be the point in that? How would that even be possible? No he's not Yahweh, he's Yahshua.

Yahshua is Hebrew for what we term "Joshua" which means Jehovah is Salvation.

Yahweh . The closest we have is the consonants YHWH, or YaHWeH. They did not use vowels in that language, so the closest translation of the "letters" is YHWH.

El is the word for God

Elohim is the plural--not "gods" but God in the mystic threefold unity.

Source of the name meanings- https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0SO81CViIZT.EsAvj1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzc2o1YTgyBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDEzMV8x?qid=1005122602291


Yes isn't it funny how Joshua the son of Nun and Yahshua had the same name yet Joshua they made it sound close as in Heb 4 8 you can see between the KJV and the NKJV one says JC the other Joshua. Joshua is correct. yet thoughout the NT they use JC. Why would they do that?

Elohim is plural it is many things. It can be a judge , it is the spirit world as in Angels when Used as Yahweh Elohim it is then Refering to the creator as Yahshua did all things as he was told by his father. Keep searching u will find many things about the languages that does not mean what we see it as meaning. Blessings Cowboy

Ps. what I mean by not sacrafising an example because Yahshua was our example as their was no reason for him to be baptized yet he did as an example. so he was showing Yahweh never desired sacrifice.

Ps 51:17
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit,
A broken and a contrite heart —
These, O God, You will not despise.
NKJV

Is this not what Yahweh desires today? to humble yourself and become a new person?



In Hebrew and in several other languages where one might find such names, there are no vowels written. Sometimes they put little "points" on or near a letter to indicate a vowel so as to clear up any ambiguities. So Jesus and Joshua would look nearly identical. The name is Jesus in English because of transliterations into Greek and into Latin. And anyway, so he had a similar name as another, who doesn't? Probably others in the area and at those times had the same name.

And yes Elohim is plural. But it's plural in the same sense "jury" would be plural.


Yahshua was born of Hebrew parents given a Hebrew name just as Joshua/Yahshua son of Nun was. The Hebrew I was referring to was the Book of Hebrews verse 4 8 kjv and nkjv say different names. one reason we know is Yahshua did give them rest Joshua did not.

jc is a greek, latin mixure,. Transliteration is done on all names. the sound never changes. if u r cowboy in America u would here the same sound in the Russian or any language. the sound of the name never changes. the difference between translating a language and transliteration


lol the sounds never changes? You are incorrect lol. My name is Gregory and in Spanish it is Gregorio. Yes Jesus Christ is not Hebrew, done discussed that.

And Joshua literally means "Yah is salvation"

Yehoshua is hebrew
Yeshua is Aramaic

So you're saying Yehoshua and Yeshua is pronounced the same in their translations? And or Gregory and Gregorio sounds the same?



no u r not correct. if you were born Spanish then that may be how your name is said. but your name is your name. when preachers go around the world with a translator you will here JC when he says that from the translator. when Obama's name is said in another country it has the same sound

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 05/29/14 11:54 AM

I was answering Miles question, as he is obsessed with seeing "where is it written"


If using " it is written" makes me wrong. I am glad to be wrong because I am in good company. your sources u use are commentaries which Yahshua came to abolish because they were not using the written word they were using a Rabbi's interpretation. That is why when the Holy Spirit came and we became the Temple with the Spirit of Yahweh living in us we can know with desire for the word the Holy Spirit from Yahweh will show you/guide you to all truth

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 05/30/14 01:16 AM











Just study Malachi ask your pastor if this has come to pass


lol you say that like I go to church Miles. I would possibly go if I had a car lol >.<. But just for the sake of a "discussion" that's not how it works. You don't just claim something shows something but doesn't explain what it's suppose to be showing. If you're going to post something, I ask that you explain the relation please.


That's because I can show more proof than you would want. years ago I flooded things with proof then was asked not to , to just explain it. so I changed and that's what I did. But from our experience Cowboy it does not matter what proof I show u.. U r stuck on Tradition. In a day and age where the bible references where no bias is concerned just what the Hebrew and greek says anyone can find out what the bible says and come to their own conclusions.

I do not want or wish anyone to believe what I say. I hope people will start to look at what the languages of the day really said before the KJV that is so Holy. it is so messed up. but today as Daniel said we would have a Knowledge explosion . a time where only now almost anyone can search the Hebrew and the greek and make up their own minds. Study to shew yourself approves we r told.

I waist my time when no matter what u will keep to Christmas, easter jc, j-hovah. now their is a name u should really study and u will fall over backwards when u see who is being called upon. But no one cares. its a Free for All. Believe whatever you want to. yet still call upon jc all the time. u will find out when you throw out those names the Spirit will open to you. you can not be partakers of evil and whats Holy.

Study. the bible tells me to stop telling you things when u reject it. so I am not going to do the work for you then you just say. that was all done away. you say you r a Christian. what does that mean? to be Christ Like right? But what do you do that is Christ Like?

Did Christ keep the Law? so wouldn't being Christ Like would be to keep the same Law also? He was our example. but we throw it away with one word. Fulfilled. read the rest of the story.

Did Yahshua ever Sacrafice? no he did not. nowhere is it recorded he did a sacrafise other than his lips and himself as we are told to do. By the way it says that same thing in the Psalms . That Yahweh never desired the fat and the blood of heifers and goats. Study to shew yourself approved. You have to answer for yourself not me.



Think you may have taken this "discussion" way to far Miles. lol

You ask I'm assuming a hypothetical question "Did Yahshua ever sacrifice?" Lol who would he be sacrificing to and for what reason? lol. When people in the days when they made sacrifices, were making the sacrifices to HIM lol. So who would he necessarily make the sacrifice to? The sacrifices were not pleasing to him for he wanted us to do right in the first place and not have to sacrifice something. That's why he didn't necessarily "approve" of the sacrifices.

Also you asked


Did Christ keep the Law? so wouldn't being Christ Like would be to keep the same Law also? He was our example. but we throw it away with one word. Fulfilled. read the rest of the story.


He kept every bit of it, he never had one fault, not one sin. It was your sins, his sins, her sins, and of course my sins Jesus took the punishment for. Nothing he did, for he was pure.


Sacraficing he did not do is an example. He did not pray to himself. He is Not Yahweh. It is written every temptation known to man he went through and did not sin. He was not Elohim on earth. He was a man or what did he really do since the pain and suffering he could endure as Elohim with no problem. He said he was not good only his father in Heaven was good. this is a problem thinking he is Yahweh. He is not


How is not sacrificing an example? Of course he did not pray to himself, what would be the point in that? How would that even be possible? No he's not Yahweh, he's Yahshua.

Yahshua is Hebrew for what we term "Joshua" which means Jehovah is Salvation.

Yahweh . The closest we have is the consonants YHWH, or YaHWeH. They did not use vowels in that language, so the closest translation of the "letters" is YHWH.

El is the word for God

Elohim is the plural--not "gods" but God in the mystic threefold unity.

Source of the name meanings- https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0SO81CViIZT.EsAvj1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzc2o1YTgyBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDEzMV8x?qid=1005122602291


Yes isn't it funny how Joshua the son of Nun and Yahshua had the same name yet Joshua they made it sound close as in Heb 4 8 you can see between the KJV and the NKJV one says JC the other Joshua. Joshua is correct. yet thoughout the NT they use JC. Why would they do that?

Elohim is plural it is many things. It can be a judge , it is the spirit world as in Angels when Used as Yahweh Elohim it is then Refering to the creator as Yahshua did all things as he was told by his father. Keep searching u will find many things about the languages that does not mean what we see it as meaning. Blessings Cowboy

Ps. what I mean by not sacrafising an example because Yahshua was our example as their was no reason for him to be baptized yet he did as an example. so he was showing Yahweh never desired sacrifice.

Ps 51:17
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit,
A broken and a contrite heart —
These, O God, You will not despise.
NKJV

Is this not what Yahweh desires today? to humble yourself and become a new person?



In Hebrew and in several other languages where one might find such names, there are no vowels written. Sometimes they put little "points" on or near a letter to indicate a vowel so as to clear up any ambiguities. So Jesus and Joshua would look nearly identical. The name is Jesus in English because of transliterations into Greek and into Latin. And anyway, so he had a similar name as another, who doesn't? Probably others in the area and at those times had the same name.

And yes Elohim is plural. But it's plural in the same sense "jury" would be plural.


Yahshua was born of Hebrew parents given a Hebrew name just as Joshua/Yahshua son of Nun was. The Hebrew I was referring to was the Book of Hebrews verse 4 8 kjv and nkjv say different names. one reason we know is Yahshua did give them rest Joshua did not.

jc is a greek, latin mixure,. Transliteration is done on all names. the sound never changes. if u r cowboy in America u would here the same sound in the Russian or any language. the sound of the name never changes. the difference between translating a language and transliteration


lol the sounds never changes? You are incorrect lol. My name is Gregory and in Spanish it is Gregorio. Yes Jesus Christ is not Hebrew, done discussed that.

And Joshua literally means "Yah is salvation"

Yehoshua is hebrew
Yeshua is Aramaic

So you're saying Yehoshua and Yeshua is pronounced the same in their translations? And or Gregory and Gregorio sounds the same?



no u r not correct. if you were born Spanish then that may be how your name is said. but your name is your name. when preachers go around the world with a translator you will here JC when he says that from the translator. when Obama's name is said in another country it has the same sound


If you say so, but I know different. As I've lived in NewMexico most my life and the one's from Mexico that have spoke Spanish all their lives and a lot even from Mexico say my name as Gregorio. And would only make sense for other languages/names to be the same.

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Fri 05/30/14 12:25 PM
Spanish? I was once at a Puerto Rican church and in Spanish Spanish was saying "Gee it is a hot day, I am very hot=caliente" in Puerto Rican Spanish I was saying "Gee it is a horny day, I am very horny"

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Fri 05/30/14 12:28 PM

Spanish? I was once at a Puerto Rican church and in Spanish Spanish was saying "Gee it is a hot day, I am very hot=caliente" in Puerto Rican Spanish I was saying "Gee it is a horny day, I am very horny"


>.<

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Fri 05/30/14 07:19 PM
o translate is different than to transliterate. names do not translate

TBRich's photo
Sat 05/31/14 02:07 PM


I think you guys missed the point of the OP; which in a way illustrates the OP. Believing in a g-d or a message without believing in a book about g-d. The study of the Bible has resulted in the Modernist era- lack of faith in g-d, due to the bible's historical, scientific and even internal inaccuracies, regardless of any praeterit eschatology. Can you believe in a message of love in a way that it helps you in your everyday life? It is easy to send your $20 to Greenpeace, more difficult to care for the person standing next to you


How do you know the bible is inaccurate though? How do you not know the testings, our history, and so forth isn't the inaccurate one? And thus the difference in faiths, in the world, or in God.


May I siggest taking the following quiz:

https://ffrf.org/legacy/quiz/bquiz.php

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Sat 05/31/14 06:40 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sat 05/31/14 06:42 PM



I think you guys missed the point of the OP; which in a way illustrates the OP. Believing in a g-d or a message without believing in a book about g-d. The study of the Bible has resulted in the Modernist era- lack of faith in g-d, due to the bible's historical, scientific and even internal inaccuracies, regardless of any praeterit eschatology. Can you believe in a message of love in a way that it helps you in your everyday life? It is easy to send your $20 to Greenpeace, more difficult to care for the person standing next to you


How do you know the bible is inaccurate though? How do you not know the testings, our history, and so forth isn't the inaccurate one? And thus the difference in faiths, in the world, or in God.


May I siggest taking the following quiz:

https://ffrf.org/legacy/quiz/bquiz.php


This quiz isn't asking "accurate" questions though. Jesus fulfilled the old testament. In question number 4 it asks

"How should parents treat a stubborn and rebellious son?"
And the possible questions are

A)He should be beaten seven times with a whip made of horsehair.
B)He should be stripped and humiliated at the gate of the city.
C)He should be expelled from the family.
D)He should be stoned to death.

And all those are old testament, so therefore none of them could possibly be correct. None of those are New Testament, therefore none of those anyone is specifically to do.

Unless there is other knowledge then the following verse on what to do with a stubborn and rebellious son.

Deuteronomy 21:18
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

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Sat 05/31/14 07:48 PM
Ok, try this one:

http://exchristian.net/pics/bible_quiz.htm

Then discuss answers in the hyperlink

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Sat 05/31/14 08:27 PM

Ok, try this one:

http://exchristian.net/pics/bible_quiz.htm

Then discuss answers in the hyperlink



The first question is already bogus TBRich, the bible doesn't say anything about "Christians". The actual scriptures and the older translations do not use that term. The newer one's may because of simulation and adopting more of a worldly translation. Which would then be again potentially an incorrect term/translation as things loose their original meaning translation after translation after translation. Especially longer time span between the translation in question and the original copy.

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Sun 06/01/14 01:36 PM
Seriously, you are gonna pull a strawman argument? The question is worded that way for the modern reader. Was that snake-handling preacher on the "Swamp People" TV show a true believer if he died from that rattlesnake bite or just wrong for taking the verse literally?

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Sun 06/01/14 03:28 PM

Seriously, you are gonna pull a strawman argument? The question is worded that way for the modern reader. Was that snake-handling preacher on the "Swamp People" TV show a true believer if he died from that rattlesnake bite or just wrong for taking the verse literally?


I don't know, I'm not the judge. But weather he died from the snake bite or not has absolutely no connection to him being a believer or not. We'll all die the first time, there's no way around that. It is the second death that people wish to, need to avoid come judgement. And don't specifically know who this snake handler is that you speak of, but sounds like he was doing snake handling to show his faith in God and or show what God can accomplish. And that would be along the lines of tempting/testing God. And Jesus has told us "Tempt not the Lord thy God".

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Mon 06/02/14 12:57 PM
For the benefit of the others, here is the question/answer; so they can look it themselves.


1. According to the Bible which of the following are characteristics or signs of true Christians?
According to Mark 16:16-18 a true Christian should be baptized, have faith, cast out demons, speak in tongues, take up serpents, be able to heal the sick, and be completely immune to any poison. If you don’t wish to test your poison immunity, you could ignore that part of the holy scriptures and just go by John 3:16 which states that a Christian must believe in Christ as their savior, but then again John 14:12 states that real Christians will be able to perform greater miracles than Christ himself (see also Mat 17:20, 21:21, Mark 11:23, and Luke 17:6). I have received comment that these scriptures only refer to "possible" signs of Christians, but in reading the passages you'll find these are statements by Jesus about what a Christian "shall" do, and taken together it's clear the Bible teaches that Christians should have some sort of abnormal power. For example, if I were to say that if you become a kangaroo that you shall have pouches and hop around, would you really think I meant that these characteristics are only possible symptoms of becoming a kangaroo convert? Probably not. For A-H give yourself one point each. If you answered I subtract ten points from your score for evolutionary tendencies and cynicism in superpowers.
A-H.) +1
I.) -10

Shall we go on to question#2?

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Mon 06/02/14 01:53 PM

For the benefit of the others, here is the question/answer; so they can look it themselves.


1. According to the Bible which of the following are characteristics or signs of true Christians?
According to Mark 16:16-18 a true Christian should be baptized, have faith, cast out demons, speak in tongues, take up serpents, be able to heal the sick, and be completely immune to any poison. If you don’t wish to test your poison immunity, you could ignore that part of the holy scriptures and just go by John 3:16 which states that a Christian must believe in Christ as their savior, but then again John 14:12 states that real Christians will be able to perform greater miracles than Christ himself (see also Mat 17:20, 21:21, Mark 11:23, and Luke 17:6). I have received comment that these scriptures only refer to "possible" signs of Christians, but in reading the passages you'll find these are statements by Jesus about what a Christian "shall" do, and taken together it's clear the Bible teaches that Christians should have some sort of abnormal power. For example, if I were to say that if you become a kangaroo that you shall have pouches and hop around, would you really think I meant that these characteristics are only possible symptoms of becoming a kangaroo convert? Probably not. For A-H give yourself one point each. If you answered I subtract ten points from your score for evolutionary tendencies and cynicism in superpowers.
A-H.) +1
I.) -10

Shall we go on to question#2?


Before you go to question #2 show me where the term "Christian" is, so we're clear about this.


Mark 16:16-18
King James Version (KJV)
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Or

Luke 17:6
King James Version (KJV)
6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

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Mon 06/02/14 02:17 PM
Again Xian is the term used to denote the followers/believers in Jesus, I believe first used by the Romans. It has become the accepted descriptive term, even if it is not in the Bible.

2. Who has seen God?
John 1:18 states that no one has seen God. But this is contradicted by Genesis 32:30 which states that Jacob saw his face, Exodus 33:23 which states that Moses saw his backside, and Genesis 18 in which God sits down to have dinner with Abraham (God eats?). The God of the Old Testament gradually retreats into the realm of the abstract as civilization matures. Thus if you chose A B or C give yourself three points each. Although D might be acceptable for Buddhists or Hindus, this test is for Christians--subtract 10 points for selecting D.
A-C.) +3
D.) –10

This, of course, all relates to the original OP

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Mon 06/02/14 02:58 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 06/02/14 03:01 PM

Again Xian is the term used to denote the followers/believers in Jesus, I believe first used by the Romans. It has become the accepted descriptive term, even if it is not in the Bible.

2. Who has seen God?
John 1:18 states that no one has seen God. But this is contradicted by Genesis 32:30 which states that Jacob saw his face, Exodus 33:23 which states that Moses saw his backside, and Genesis 18 in which God sits down to have dinner with Abraham (God eats?). The God of the Old Testament gradually retreats into the realm of the abstract as civilization matures. Thus if you chose A B or C give yourself three points each. Although D might be acceptable for Buddhists or Hindus, this test is for Christians--subtract 10 points for selecting D.
A-C.) +3
D.) –10

This, of course, all relates to the original OP


Please also keep the context in line as well.

John 1:18
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

This verse of "God" is obviously referring to the Father, as it specifically says the only man who has seen God is the only begotten which would be Jesus.
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Genesis 32:30
30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

If you'll read further up in Genesis 32 keeping the verses in context, you can see in verse 9 it specifically states it's referring the Lord, which would then be Jesus of course before he was incarnate and known as "Jesus"

9 And Jacob said, O God of my father Abraham, and God of my father Isaac, the Lord which saidst unto me, Return unto thy country, and to thy kindred, and I will deal well with thee:
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The genesis verse is not specific enough to know which of the "persons" of "God" is being referred to, could very well be referring to the Word before he became incarnate in the flesh, eg., Jesus.

In verse Genesis 18:1 is specifically says "Lord". So it would be referring to the begotten eg., Jesus before he was incarnate in the flesh.

Genesis 18:1)
18 And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day

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Mon 06/02/14 03:04 PM

Again Xian is the term used to denote the followers/believers in Jesus, I believe first used by the Romans. It has become the accepted descriptive term, even if it is not in the Bible.

2. Who has seen God?
John 1:18 states that no one has seen God. But this is contradicted by Genesis 32:30 which states that Jacob saw his face, Exodus 33:23 which states that Moses saw his backside, and Genesis 18 in which God sits down to have dinner with Abraham (God eats?). The God of the Old Testament gradually retreats into the realm of the abstract as civilization matures. Thus if you chose A B or C give yourself three points each. Although D might be acceptable for Buddhists or Hindus, this test is for Christians--subtract 10 points for selecting D.
A-C.) +3
D.) –10

This, of course, all relates to the original OP



Again Xian is the term used to denote the followers/believers in Jesus, I believe first used by the Romans. It has become the accepted descriptive term, even if it is not in the Bible.


It may have "become" the accepted descriptive term, but as these verses were around long before it was "accepted" please refrain to terms that are used through the scriptures so the questions may be answered in more of a proper fashion.

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Mon 06/02/14 03:27 PM
Please feel free to inform me of the term you would find more acceptable. Thank you for actually printing out the verses that prove the point.

Question #3:

3. How powerful is God?
According to Matthew 19:26, all things are possible with God. Thus if you chose A give yourself 5 points. But this does bring up a logical contradiction making at least one of the following statements false:
1. God can do anything he wants.
2. God does not want evil to exist.
3. Evil exists.
An omnipotent omniscient and good god is in itself a logical contradiction. But in Isaiah 45:7 God admits He purposefully created evil so perhaps 2 is false. And in Judges 1:19 we read that God has trouble overcoming iron chariots, and in Numbers 23:22 we read God is only as strong as a Unicorn (or wild ox depending on the embarrassment of your translator)--thus perhaps #1 is false. Jesus seems to have his limitations as well (Mark 6:4-5, Mark 7:33-35, Mark 8:23-25). If you chose B give yourself 5 points. If you chose C, subtract 10 points for your skepticism in Gods and their mysterious magic powers.
A-B.) +5
C.) –10

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Mon 06/02/14 03:43 PM

Please feel free to inform me of the term you would find more acceptable. Thank you for actually printing out the verses that prove the point.

Question #3:

3. How powerful is God?
According to Matthew 19:26, all things are possible with God. Thus if you chose A give yourself 5 points. But this does bring up a logical contradiction making at least one of the following statements false:
1. God can do anything he wants.
2. God does not want evil to exist.
3. Evil exists.
An omnipotent omniscient and good god is in itself a logical contradiction. But in Isaiah 45:7 God admits He purposefully created evil so perhaps 2 is false. And in Judges 1:19 we read that God has trouble overcoming iron chariots, and in Numbers 23:22 we read God is only as strong as a Unicorn (or wild ox depending on the embarrassment of your translator)--thus perhaps #1 is false. Jesus seems to have his limitations as well (Mark 6:4-5, Mark 7:33-35, Mark 8:23-25). If you chose B give yourself 5 points. If you chose C, subtract 10 points for your skepticism in Gods and their mysterious magic powers.
A-B.) +5
C.) –10


1. Yes he can and does
2. No he does not
3. Yes it does because of Satan growing an ego and self pride and thinking himself greater then God, then going out and trying to prove such a point true.

Yes God did create Evil, he created Satan and that is just what Satan is. Evil. He wasn't created evil, but turned evil through his ego and pride thinking himself greater then God. So in the long run God created evil because he created Satan and fee will, cause and effect my friend.