I think that you are beautiful and wicked smart as well!

msharmony is mine! I saw her first!

It was just my way of saying, "no hard feelings".

Oh ... For a moment, I thought that you were trying to woo her.
After all, she is a good catch.

wasn't expecting the flattery,,smh

but back to Archie Bunker,,,

Archie Bunker can't have you either. He already has a woman.

Intersting that you would gloss over George Jefferson when he held the same views as Archie did .

Aaaaannnd there ya go.

Archie Bunker was actually based on a character from a British sitcom called Alf Garnet. The writer, Johnny Spate said that he often had people thanking him for giving them a voice and saying, "Good old Alf". The original series "Till death us do part" was made in the sixties and Alf complained about the socialist Labour government, the social changes that were going on at the time and voiced a lot of what you could call bigoted opinions. Sheri Blaire (Tony's wife) was the daughter of the actor that played Alf's daughter's socialist boyfriend.

Political correctness had its hayday in the UK in the nineteen eighties and that was largely a reaction against Thatcherite conservetism. During the Thatcher period it was very much an "us and them" divided society but a lot of the working class people that I grew up with didn't really want to get involved and couldn't be doing with trendy socialist PC types. Now we do have a multicultural society and not everyone is entirely happy about that. At the same time though, I think that there's less political correctness here now and people are less touchy about "bigotry". You ask if it's time to bring back a political satire like that and it's already been done here. There was "Little Britain", for instance and that had characters like a lady that would vomit when she found out that she had just eaten a cake that was baked by a black person. That's where I think that it's gone here now. We're sending up everybody and it's alright to ridicule any stereotype, whether it's a member of a minority group or a bigot. You only have to watch Geremy Clarkson on Top Gear if you want to see an Alf Garnet though. The guy just had a slap on the wrist for mumbling the "N word" in a recent episode of Top Gear. He apologised and said that he loathes that word but he's about as politically correct as my arse.

Did you have to bring Alf into this conversation?

I didn't gloss him over, I chose a topic,,

feel free to open a topic about George Jefferson, this topic was about Archie Bunker though,,

neither of them are 'old' or 'new',,,,they are both continuing bigotry and racism , neither went away, and neither just developed,,,

the internet makes people more courageous though and you can find examples of both , today, all over the internet,,,

There are two scenes I recall that are very telling: 1. in a rant about draft dodgers, he states he does not want the war or like the war or understand the war or want to see young men dying but it is a terrible thing that it is their duty to go; is a scene with either a FLN or JDL member, Archie shakes the guys hand; the guy takes Archie's hand and forms it into a fist as he tells Archie that soon he will find that this is the only way. After the guy leaves, there is a loud explosion; at the door Archie says "ah geez, they blew him up in his car"

hmmm,, I don't recall a scene like that


pretty awful,,

Wow I used to watch and love that show when I was younger yet now it seems so inappropriate

it was probably one of the longest running 'spoofs' in the history of television series besides the housewives shows that I think totally shine a light on how ridiculous some of the pampered can be


It would probably be harder to do in todays climate as I think it would be lost on many who would not get that it was poking fun at and not encouraging otherwise inapproporiate behavior and speech,,,

Personally I would rather see Archie Bunker as president than Obama. I bet I would still have my old insurance plan.

.. oddly enough when I was young quite a few.. but these days less and less of them..tg..

Archie Bunker is a fictional character of the 20th Century.
Karon Wright is a real person of the 21st Century.

Why dwell on the fictional instead of on the real?