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Topic: Problem with mid eastern people?
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Fri 04/04/14 10:56 AM
Edited by Bryan87559 on Fri 04/04/14 10:57 AM
What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all .....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss

nancyfl's photo
Fri 04/04/14 11:54 AM
Same thing any where in the world
Not just middle eastern

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/04/14 12:32 PM

What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all .....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss


can you show a source for your information? a link, anything?

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Fri 04/04/14 12:43 PM
Edited by gibbs1602 on Fri 04/04/14 12:45 PM

What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all.....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss


My best friends are Lebanese, a middle eastern country - they face racialist slurs daily from the ignorant public, however they are all for human rights. I was born and raised in a country where human atrocities are an every day occurrence.............which people are you referring to exactly??

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Fri 04/04/14 12:54 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/10745630/Pakistani-9-month-old-baby-accused-of-attempted-murder.html

metalwing's photo
Fri 04/04/14 01:12 PM
That's a pretty mean looking baby! What if he was just "born to be bad"?

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Fri 04/04/14 01:18 PM

What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all ****ed up.....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss


Do you really believe it is only the middle-east that has these problems?

Here in the U.S. a 5 yr old charged....don't stereotype it's unbecoming
http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-charge-considered-girl-drowned-crying-toddler/story?id=13811620


mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/04/14 01:21 PM


that big bruiser is more than 9 months old...

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 04/04/14 01:22 PM

That's a pretty mean looking baby! What if he was just "born to be bad"?

maybe he just doesn't like Police!:smile:
Can't say I blame him!bigsmile

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Fri 04/04/14 01:25 PM

What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all .....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss

actually it is Pakistan,and Pakistan definitely is not in the mid-East!

It is in south-Asia!

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/04/14 01:25 PM


What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all.....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss


Do you really believe it is only the middle-east that has these problems?

Here in the U.S. a 5 yr old charged....don't stereotype it's unbecoming
http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-charge-considered-girl-drowned-crying-toddler/story?id=13811620




couple of differences there... for one, the 5 YO girl actually killed a kid, while the muslim kid was just with his parents while they threw rocks... big difference... the muslim kid did nothing wrong, the girl stuck the baby in the bathtub ...

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Fri 04/04/14 01:28 PM



What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all .....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss


Do you really believe it is only the middle-east that has these problems?

Here in the U.S. a 5 yr old charged....don't stereotype it's unbecoming
http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-charge-considered-girl-drowned-crying-toddler/story?id=13811620




couple of differences there... for one, the 5 YO girl actually killed a kid, while the muslim kid was just with his parents while they threw rocks... big difference... the muslim kid did nothing wrong, the girl stuck the baby in the bathtub ...

Both are still to young to be accountable to for their actions in a court of law....I understand there is differences, but in both cases the kid is to young to be held accountable in a legal system...that was my main point

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Fri 04/04/14 01:28 PM


"Everyone in the court was saying 'How can such a small child be implicated in any case'? What kind of police do we have?" the 50-year-old labourer said.

The charge is in direct contradiction with Pakistan's minimum age of criminal responsibility, which was raised from seven to 12 years in 2013 except in terrorism cases.

Mr Yasin accused the police of fabricating the charges because they were colluding with a rival party who wanted to see the accused evicted from their land and had obtained an order to remove their gas connections.

"The police and gas company officials came without any notice and started removing gas meters from houses. Residents started protesting and blocked the road but ended the protest when senior police officers arrived in the area and assured them that no injustice would be done.

"But later we found out that cases have been filed against us," he added.

Judge Rafaqat Ali Qamar ordered the inspector to be suspended and granted the child bail, though he will have to appear at the next hearing on April 12.

But Mr Sadiq, the lawyer, said the charges against the child should have been dropped.

"The court should have simply referred the minor's case to the High Court to drop the charges against the innocent child and acquit him from the case," Sadiq told AFP.

"This case also exposes the incompetence of our police force and the way they are operating," he added.

Feisal Naqvi, a supreme court lawyer told AFP the naming of family members in police reports was a common tactic employed by complainants in order to exert pressure on parties with whom they were involved in a dispute.

He said: "It's not common for babies to be accused but it is common for other family members to be accused," he said.

"What happens then is that vendettas are going on so everyone gets picked up and gets chucked in jail," he added.

Shoaib Suddle, a retired police chief, added that the system operates via 'first information reports' that date back to British colonial times, which give too much weight to allegations made by accusers.

"The moment they are able to file a complaint, accusers expect that without any evidence people should be locked up and the investigation should follow, whereas the world over it is the other way around," Mr Suddle said.

Edited by Barney Henderson

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/04/14 01:32 PM




What in the hell is wrong with these people? Charging a 9 month old baby with attempted murder? Can they really not figure anything out in the world? Literally it is all .....all of it.....an no, ignorance is not bliss


Do you really believe it is only the middle-east that has these problems?

Here in the U.S. a 5 yr old charged....don't stereotype it's unbecoming
http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-charge-considered-girl-drowned-crying-toddler/story?id=13811620




couple of differences there... for one, the 5 YO girl actually killed a kid, while the muslim kid was just with his parents while they threw rocks... big difference... the muslim kid did nothing wrong, the girl stuck the baby in the bathtub ...

Both are still to young to be accountable to for their actions in a court of law....I understand there is differences, but in both cases the kid is to young to be held accountable in a legal system...that was my main point


yea, well... the lawyers are still getting paid...thats all that really matters...whoa


gibbs1602's photo
Fri 04/04/14 01:47 PM
Nine-month-old boy in Pakistan accused of attempted murder, "highlighting flaws of Pakistan legal system" - seriously?

vanaheim's photo
Fri 04/04/14 03:56 PM
they found the blueprint for this dastardly crime among some building blocks and a bowl of puree'd apple and the kid had a guilty look on his face.

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 04/04/14 06:13 PM
The United States incarcerates the absolute most people in the entire known world, near 25% of the inmate population in the world resides in the United States.

A percentage of our country is under some form of corrections, likely you know someone right now who is under some form of correctional probation. That isn't even counting that damn near half of those inmates are in for non-violent offenses, most drug convictions, meanwhile murders and rapists can get off with supervised parole or probation for a fraction of the time federally their sentence would keep them in prison for.

, we need help.

no photo
Fri 04/04/14 06:46 PM

The United States incarcerates the absolute most people in the entire known world, near 25% of the inmate population in the world resides in the United States.

A percentage of our country is under some form of corrections, likely you know someone right now who is under some form of correctional probation. That isn't even counting that damn near half of those inmates are in for non-violent offenses, most drug convictions, meanwhile murders and rapists can get off with supervised parole or probation for a fraction of the time federally their sentence would keep them in prison for.

we need help.

yes I agree with you. I'm from the Uk by the way, but we have similar laws




no photo
Fri 04/04/14 07:50 PM

The United States incarcerates the absolute most people in the entire known world, near 25% of the inmate population in the world resides in the United States.

A percentage of our country is under some form of corrections, likely you know someone right now who is under some form of correctional probation. That isn't even counting that damn near half of those inmates are in for non-violent offenses, most drug convictions, meanwhile murders and rapists can get off with supervised parole or probation for a fraction of the time federally their sentence would keep them in prison for.

we need help.

I'd be curious to know if we also execute inmates more via the death penalty. We definitely have the most gun violence in the western world, possibly overall. That cannot help our prison population growth statistics.

On the positive side, we are at least doing something to keep the streets mostly safe...we take action when there has been a crime. But we do not do enough proactive prevention....like the jogger from Australia who was killed (in Michigan or Illinois I think) by random gun violence of a teenage prank. WHAT? that is not a prank. That is sick shite....or the gang rapes on college campuses that occur REGULARLY all over this country...if most parents knew how often these things happen in these schools, they'd never let their daughters live in the dorms.... (just examples)

it goes deeper...we are reactive to crime because we have to be, but would it not be better if there was less crime to react to? Yes, it's good we DO react and DO something. But better yet if we had a society that was organically less violent to start with.


as far as criminal 9 mo olds and 5 y/o olds....anyone with a first year poli sci education will know that it is the parents who will be held accountable, at least in the US

FearandLoathing's photo
Sat 04/05/14 03:46 AM


The United States incarcerates the absolute most people in the entire known world, near 25% of the inmate population in the world resides in the United States.

A percentage of our country is under some form of corrections, likely you know someone right now who is under some form of correctional probation. That isn't even counting that damn near half of those inmates are in for non-violent offenses, most drug convictions, meanwhile murders and rapists can get off with supervised parole or probation for a fraction of the time federally their sentence would keep them in prison for.

we need help.

I'd be curious to know if we also execute inmates more via the death penalty. We definitely have the most gun violence in the western world, possibly overall. That cannot help our prison population growth statistics.

On the positive side, we are at least doing something to keep the streets mostly safe...we take action when there has been a crime. But we do not do enough proactive prevention....like the jogger from Australia who was killed (in Michigan or Illinois I think) by random gun violence of a teenage prank. WHAT? that is not a prank. That is sick shite....or the gang rapes on college campuses that occur REGULARLY all over this country...if most parents knew how often these things happen in these schools, they'd never let their daughters live in the dorms.... (just examples)

it goes deeper...we are reactive to crime because we have to be, but would it not be better if there was less crime to react to? Yes, it's good we DO react and DO something. But better yet if we had a society that was organically less violent to start with.


as far as criminal 9 mo olds and 5 y/o olds....anyone with a first year poli sci education will know that it is the parents who will be held accountable, at least in the US


We're up there with China, Yemen, North Korea and Iran.

Prison has not been proven as rehabilitation for behavior, quite the opposite actually, recidivism rates have only increased since the 80's. At least half of the inmate population of United States correctional facilities are non-violent drug offenders, meanwhile a kid kills a family while racing through town and claims he didn't know any better and receives 10 years of probation.

There is no benefit to the United States prison system currently.

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